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I too would not have selected Voss, but now he is appointed I will support unconditionally.

But I do need to make a final comment that IMHO the process was shambolic and chaotic.

In my opinion at the outset RTB got told he had the job if Clarko didn't want it, and he had already said no. RTB, went ahead and sounded out his assistants only to get a call from Sayers saying mate I can't get you across the line with the Board.

RTB hung out to dry because he was allegedly involved in an incident, which didn't go before the Courts and had been resolved. Yet, days later the AFL is happy to parade former criminal Ben Cousins out on the red carpet.

The hypocrisy is palpable.

Now we get to a press conference appointing Voss, and we have Cook answering questions about offering the role to a different coach in the days before.

And let's also acknowledge the handcuffs the committee had placed on them by the President stating we will appoint an experienced coach. Poor old Kingsley, he didn't have a chance.

I'm all in, but don't tell me we ran a proper process, and let's hope it all works out.

CB
I agree with aspects of your take on events, but I think you're being a bit harsh overall. It started off shambolically when we started the search in a typical Carlton fashion speaking to prospects and making promises without everyone on the same page. And I'd add I loved it, I reckon I wanted Ross more than anyone, even over Clarko.

But there was a clear change, they established a panel and sounded out highly regarded candidates. To say they weren't willing to hire somebody without experience isn't true as Kingsley was right at the pointy end.

Cook came in late, did the same thing the panel did initially. He sounded out others and asked the question. Have to remember this sounding out occurred before the final interviews which I believe is important.

The Cook appointment and the fact he got both Kingsley and Voss to interview in front of him has given me confidence in the appointment (it took me a couple of days to get here).

Voss the Boss
 
I'll be all in on Voss if he turfs SPS, LOB and PD.
Tanty still going?
Geez it is a long one.

Come back later I guess.
Enjoy Bostonian.:thumbsu:
No hurry.
Take your time.
 
I hear there's still a chance for 2023

The Voss “appointment” is just another Sayers smokescreen. Mark my words Clarkson will get appointed as coach for 2022 shortly. We will all LOL.
 

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I agree with aspects of your take on events, but I think you're being a bit harsh overall. It started off shambolically when we started the search in a typical Carlton fashion speaking to prospects and making promises without everyone on the same page. And I'd add I loved it, I reckon I wanted Ross more than anyone, even over Clarko.

But there was a clear change, they established a panel and sounded out highly regarded candidates. To say they weren't willing to hire somebody without experience isn't true as Kingsley was right at the pointy end.

Cook came in late, did the same thing the panel did initially. He sounded out others and asked the question. Have to remember this sounding out occurred before the final interviews which I believe is important.

The Cook appointment and the fact he got both Kingsley and Voss to interview in front of him has given me confidence in the appointment (it took me a couple of days to get here).

Voss the Boss
Cook was never going to veto the Committees recommendation, he's not even on the payroll yet...
 
Going well mate.

Surgery tomorrow.

Got a bloody cannula today for anti biotics. Horrible things.
Good luck for surgery Wick!
Thinking of you.
 
Voss spoke brilliantly
I'm impressed with his tempered confidence and the barely suppressed hunger for success at a club and personal level.
It's a throaway line, however the old 'barracked for us as a kid' really shone though and it looks like he genuinely has the club's interests at heart.
 
Now who is trying to insult someone's intelligence?

Don't worry, I'm sure any posts calling you out this behavior you can have removed, nobody has the right of reply.
Have removed? I didn't have any post removed. Quit it you're embarrassing yourself.

Bostonian challenged again I responded, right of reply, exactly as you say. Hypocrite. He's equally at fault for this back and forth but you've picked me. Go back in your hole Harker. I'm sorry I used your buzz phrase 'group think'. Good to see you still think you know more than everyone else.


Edit: if you really really want to white knight I again suggest you go back throughout the whole conversation. You wont though, you'll pretend you know the context and try to position yourself on some imaginary morale high ground.
 
I think you’re wrong on Ross Lyon coachb, I so highly doubt he was offered the role at all.

IMO He was prepared to go through a process just not with the people on the panel who were there to select the winning candidate. Was also probably pissed that “the process is not the same process for every candidate” yet the only one that had a different process was Clarkson.

He then decided to strategise the situation and effectively ruled himself out which turned off the President completely. No coming back from that and he knew it.

Ross has an image problem, that was clearly pulpable across the industry when he he put his hand up originally. Pot shots coming from all directions.
I truly believe if he really wants to coach as the head honcho again he needs to rebuild his image. That could be Director of Coaching type role or senior assistant, it won’t happen but he’d be the perfect candidate working with Voss


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My view, Ross was offered the job before Sayers had the brakes put on by the Board.
 
Cook was never going to veto the Committees recommendation, he's not even on the payroll yet...
He was doing work for CFC whilst being paid by Geelong - they are gonna sack him - hold on :p
 
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Have removed? I didn't have any post removed. Quit it you're embarrassing yourself.

Bostonian challenged again I responded, right of reply, exactly as you say. Hypocrite. He's equally at fault for this back and forth but you've picked me. Go back in your hole Harker. I'm sorry I used your buzz phrase 'group think'. Good to see you still think you know more than everyone else.

I haven't said anything to them because they haven't resorted to posting like you (again with the name calling and labelling) and the rest of your laugh likers who think they are above people with opinions they disagree with.

Sorry, I forgot I was dealing with a 'well known poster around here'. As someone else would say... get over yourself.
 

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I haven't said anything to them because they haven't resorted to posting like you (again with the name calling and labelling) and the rest of your laugh likers who think they are above people with opinions they disagree with.

Sorry, I forgot I was dealing with a 'well known poster around here'. As someone else would say... get over yourself.
Who are my laugh likers? I don't have a group following me around. I was defending myself from a misplaced attempt at white knighting. Resorted to posting like me? This started because I didn't like that Bostonian was shit canning the club and his logic was 'well my mates laughed at the decision' - he then started trying to speak for all paid up members 'do you know what that is' etc. You again demonstrate you've no idea what the context of the posting was or the back and forth.

Seriously, I responded to an overly negative arrogant set of posts and you picked me to have a go at out of it and what, didn't expect me to bite back? I don't even mind that Bostonian posted like that, people are allowed to dislike the appointment, I'm allowed to disagree. Right of reply in your own bloody words. LOL. Your own words that included allowing to disagree and promote discussion. You want to go back and read the posts and see who had contempt and killed discussion and who was trying to promote it?

What I actually detest is this attempted white knighting and intelligence flexing. It's sad. You've then tried to accuse me of removing a post and stopping right of reply, something I didn't do, now apparently I have a group of lackies?? Ok.... Who? I noticed you had a big dig at Thy, so I assume you think he's one. If you know much about this place at all, which you do Harks, then you'd know Thy hates my guts and very very rarely outwardly agrees with what I post.
 
I haven't said anything to them because they haven't resorted to posting like you (again with the name calling and labelling) and the rest of your laugh likers who think they are above people with opinions they disagree with.

Sorry, I forgot I was dealing with a 'well known poster around here'. As someone else would say... get over yourself.

How does one "get over themselves"? figuratively or literally? It would fairly impressive feat if it was literally ... some serious flexibility involved there.
 
Who are my laugh likers? I don't have a group following me around. I was defending myself from a misplaced attempt at white knighting. Resorted to posting like me? This started because I didn't like that Bostonian was sh*t canning the club and his logic was 'well my mates laughed at the decision' - he then started trying to speak for all paid up members 'do you know what that is' etc. You again demonstrate you've no idea what the context of the posting was or the back and forth.

Seriously, I responded to an overly negative arrogant set of posts and you picked me to have a go at out of it and what, didn't expect me to bite back? I don't even mind that Bostonian posted like that, people are allowed to dislike the appointment, I'm allowed to disagree. Right of reply in your own bloody words. LOL. Your own words that included allowing to disagree and promote discussion. You want to go back and read the posts and see who had contempt and killed discussion and who was trying to promote it?

What I actually detest is this attempted white knighting and intelligence flexing. It's sad. You've then tried to accuse me of removing a post and stopping right of reply, something I didn't do, now apparently I have a group of lackies?? Ok.... Who? I noticed you had a big dig at Thy, so I assume you think he's one. If you know much about this place at all, which you do Harks, then you'd know Thy hates my guts and very very rarely outwardly agrees with what I post.

He wouldn't have the kahunas to have a crack at me ...
 
The Voss “appointment” is just another Sayers smokescreen. Mark my words Clarkson will get appointed as coach for 2022 shortly. We will all LOL.
I've heard Clarko has been given a final absolute deadline of 7.15pm on the night of the Tigers clash in round 1.
 
Now who is trying to insult someone's intelligence?

Don't worry, I'm sure any posts calling you out this behavior you can have removed, nobody has the right of reply.
this shit again..........oh woe is me, the mods, the mods............
 
Surely you can't honestly believe that...

And if you do, you mustn't know to much about Cook and the calibre and of the bloke.
He saw the presentations in the morning 50/50 by accounts, Voss has been put up, what possible motivation does he have to rock the boat..
 
Now who is trying to insult someone's intelligence?

Don't worry, I'm sure any posts calling you out this behavior you can have removed, nobody has the right of reply.

The more disrespectful you are the ... worse I will become mate, just a lil warning ... nobody is saying you cannot have an opinion. That is something you have projected into your own diatribe.
 
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