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Yes. These guys work 5 days in a week for 10 months a year. Going on a trip after their footy season is done.

Players don't really need to analyse what the finals teams do. That's the job for the coaches and analysts at the club.

The fact that 2/3 of the list are there is actually a promising sign rather than a negative sign


Yep.

Carl Cox would be to their musical taste what Ross Lyon would be to their careers...instant recognition of the error in their ways.
 
Fair points, I was more thinking in terms of prompting motivation for next year. For example, didn’t sheedy make the 1999 prelim team go and watch the 1999 grand final?

That’s more what I was thinking. But perhaps I am a dinosaur.
They've just endured a shocking season. It's better for them to be relaxing and taking a load off than anything else.
 
The fact that 2/3 of the list are there is actually a promising sign rather than a negative sign
Is Kane correct that no other club does this? If an extremely unsuccessful club does something completely unique in the off season it would make me question if it was a symptom.
 

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Is Kane correct that no other club does this? If an extremely unsuccessful club does something completely unique in the off season it would make me question if it was a symptom.
Most players once their season is done leave on a trip. The fact we're doing it all together pretty much means nothing apart from the guys doing it together.
 
Most players once their season is done leave on a trip. The fact we're doing it all together pretty much means nothing apart from the guys doing it together.
Fair enough. I hope you’re right.

To me though, it seems odd odd that a team whose commitment was questioned during the year is now being told to go on a trip to Spain rather than staying to watch the opposition battle it out in september.

But as I said, I am probably a dinosaur in their regard.
 
Never had it.
Worth a try.

It’s only 3.5% but flavour wise it’s always just seemed like a slightly less yeasty Coopers Pale to me.

It still has a fair bit of the characteristic cloudiness.
 
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There will be a video in the news of one of the players dancing on a table with a gram bag of white powder tomorrow, and Kane Cornes saying I told you so. 😆

I'm all for them going away as a group though. The club is a mess, hopefully by the time they get back they will have a little bit more of an idea of what their return to the club looks like.
 
Fair points, I was more thinking in terms of prompting motivation for next year. For example, didn’t sheedy make the 1999 prelim team go and watch the 1999 grand final?

That’s more what I was thinking. But perhaps I am a dinosaur.
Difference being, we should have been playing that day in 99. It was the right tactic then and would have no issue with it happening again in similar circumstances.

We are a long way off being serious finals contenders, so not sure if forcing the players go to watch finals matches would serve as any sort of motivating factor at this stage.
 
Plenty of clubs go away in groups as there good mates and all ther eother mates are busy working/studying

The hawks are currently away overseas in groups

Im surprised its 30-35, but to be honest....in a good way. I thought they mightve been sick of eachother after the year its been. Wouldve been a lot of negativity and similar speak for a while. Good to see they still like each others company and no divisions after such a horrid season

Its the best thing for them right now. Speaking from my perspective sometimes holidays make you more motivated to get back into it
 
Fair enough. I hope you’re right.

To me though, it seems odd odd that a team whose commitment was questioned during the year is now being told to go on a trip to Spain rather than staying to watch the opposition battle it out in september.

But as I said, I am probably a dinosaur in their regard.
I don’t think they were told to. It’s not a club directive, it’s just what they chose to do with their time off.
 

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I don’t think they were told to. It’s not a club directive, it’s just what they chose to do with their time off.
You’re right, bad choice of words. Deciding to go on the trip would be more accurate.

People raise some good points here but I guess I think it’s important for supporters and members to see at least an iota of commitment to winning after the horror season we’ve all just witnessed. I thought it was a legitimate criticism by cornes that was pretty much dismissed as negativity.
 
You’re right, bad choice of words. Deciding to go on the trip would be more accurate.

People raise some good points here but I guess I think it’s important for supporters and members to see at least an iota of commitment to winning after the horror season we’ve all just witnessed. I thought it was a legitimate criticism by cornes that was pretty much dismissed as negativity.
If Cornes didn’t play devils advocate his kids would go hungry.

The players don’t owe us visible acts of commitment, and there’s no way to know they aren’t watching it, since they’d likely be watching it on TV regardless of their location.

Beyond that they’ve all rocked up early for preseason the last few years so I don’t think you can really say they’re not committed just because they used their leave to do things all of us would be doing now too if we could.
 
You’re right, bad choice of words. Deciding to go on the trip would be more accurate.

People raise some good points here but I guess I think it’s important for supporters and members to see at least an iota of commitment to winning after the horror season we’ve all just witnessed. I thought it was a legitimate criticism by cornes that was pretty much dismissed as negativity.
Cornes likes getting upset at trivial things so Fox can run a headline "AFL great says blah blah blah"
He really offers little other than being a good player in his day lending legitimacy to the "great" tag. tbh, i'd be fine if Fox just lied and referred to some 2 gamer as a great.

Anyhoo, without a coach, program, and a whole bunch of stuff really not lined up. Probably best they do get away as a group until the club sorts itself out

Just make sure you bring McKenna back home with you.
 
Coopers are a bit of a funny one. They're trying to push into new territory to take market share from other breweries who are doing new-world style beers (hop forward, more aromatic craft beers like XPAs/IPAs/some Pale varieties/Pacific Ales etc) but their production setup doesn't facilitate those kinds of beers, so they're kind of trying to shoehorn the production methods they know (for slower fermented, bottle conditioned, 'traditional' beers) into these more modern styles and the result isn't great.

They also have their house yeast strain which is basically their signature and a huge part of the 'Coopers-ness' of all of their beers, which they're persisting with using on modern beer styles (which generally should have minimal yeast character) even though it doesn't lend itself to those kinds of beers at all

So they are ****ing idiots?
 
I must be boring, just drink Carlton Draught on tap wherever I go and the same in tins at home.
If I’m at a bar and it’s packed and not sure what’s on tap (perhaps I’m just awkward in these situations) I’ll go Carlton Draught. Or if I’m going to a family gathering (on the in-laws side) I’ll bring a slab of Carlton Draught to share. It’s not a bad drop.
 

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I suspect a few us sorry gluten feee folks are feeling left out. 😅 So I feel obliged to point out that Two Bays Pale Ale and IPA are genuinely good brews of you like that style. If you drinking with a gluten intolerant/allergic mate, get a slab and drink it with him. He'll appreciate it and you'll enjoy it.
 

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