Club Mgmt. Board of Directors as led by President Dave Barham

[BrunoV]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Just another idiot doubling down on delusion.

 

[DERO]

It certainly feels like groundhog day. Although that would be true regardless of whether we got the same guy as coach for a third time.

Let’s see.

 

[ant555]

All I can say is if we start kicking the footy 20 meters sideways next year he has too much influence on the football department.

 

[andleanback]

I’m more keen to see who our ceo will be rather than the coach. It better be someone with genuine football club experience.

 

[TheGrizz]

I am not too worried by Andrew Welsh

Andrew Welsh

Age

42

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188cm

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88kg

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Mid

Career

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16.4

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9.7

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6.7

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4.6

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2.9

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1.6

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9.6

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4.0

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3.6

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on the board in and of itself.

Successful club like Richmond (Emmett Dunne), Melbourne (Brad Green

Brad Green

Age

44

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

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Fwd

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16.2

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10.3

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5.9

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5.2

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2.2

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1.4

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7.2

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5.8

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1.4

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3.2

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0.0

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1.4

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) and Sydney (Leo Barry

Leo Barry

Age

48

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

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Last 5

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12.8

3star

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7.2

3star

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5.6

4star

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5.0

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1.6

4star

No current season stats available

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4.4

1star

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2.6

1star

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1.8

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M

0.8

1star

T

1.2

3star

and Michael O'Loughlin

Michael O'loughlin

Age

48

Ht

189cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.9

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.4

3star

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1.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.6

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5.8

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5.8

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2.2

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) have former players on there.

The question is, if you scrubbed out their name and ignored their playing career, are they qualified to join the board?
Welsh is now worth close to a quarter of a billion dollars through his business and property dealings, so I would personally consider his business acumen would qualify him to do so.

The problem is when you appoint guys 'coz football' ..... like Sheedy.

 

[jmoo wan]

I am not too worried by Andrew Welsh on the board in and of itself.

Successful club like Richmond (Emmett Dunne), Melbourne (Brad Green) and Sydney (Leo Barry and Michael O'Loughlin) have former players on there.

The question is, if you scrubbed out their name and ignored their playing career, are they qualified to join the board?
Welsh is now worth close to a quarter of a billion dollars through his business and property dealings, so I would personally consider his business acumen would qualify him to do so.

The problem is when you appoint guys 'coz football' ..... like Sheedy.

do you really think that Welsh is worth that much because of his business acumen… or because of his football career? because if it is the former, i have a magic premiership **** ring i’d like to sell you.

 

[Lore]

I am not too worried by Andrew Welsh on the board in and of itself.

Successful club like Richmond (Emmett Dunne), Melbourne (Brad Green) and Sydney (Leo Barry and Michael O'Loughlin) have former players on there.

The question is, if you scrubbed out their name and ignored their playing career, are they qualified to join the board?
Welsh is now worth close to a quarter of a billion dollars through his business and property dealings, so I would personally consider his business acumen would qualify him to do so.

The problem is when you appoint guys 'coz football' ..... like Sheedy.

Or people who get into it because they want to use the club as their personal play thing.

 

[Lore]

because if it is the former, i have a magic premiership **** ring i’d like to sell you.

The Jet.

 

[ant555]

I am not too worried by Andrew Welsh on the board in and of itself.

Successful club like Richmond (Emmett Dunne), Melbourne (Brad Green) and Sydney (Leo Barry and Michael O'Loughlin) have former players on there.

The question is, if you scrubbed out their name and ignored their playing career, are they qualified to join the board?
Welsh is now worth close to a quarter of a billion dollars through his business and property dealings, so I would personally consider his business acumen would qualify him to do so.

The problem is when you appoint guys 'coz football' ..... like Sheedy.

Agree. Welsh has the business acumen but he also has the footy background. I presume he is taking over Wellman's role on the board as the boards footy director or whatever it was called.

 

[jmoo wan]

The Jet.

im not endorsing a specific brand or product Lore.

 

[TheGrizz]

do you really think that Welsh is worth that much because of his business acumen… or because of his football career? because if it is the former, i have a magic premiership **** ring i’d like to sell you.

I think he probably leveraged the connections he had from football (including a handy land investment at Armstrong Creek with Dodoro and a few others) to make a fair bit of cash, no doubt.

But to accredit that much money solely to being 'one of da boyzzzzz' and being a result of being an ex footballer is a nonsense.
How many ex footballers do you know with that amount of net worth? He obviously has does something right whith his business ventures.

 

[jmoo wan]

I think he probably leveraged the connections he had from football (including a handy land investment at Armstrong Creek with Dodoro and a few others) to make a fair bit of cash, no doubt.

But to accredit that much money solely to being 'one of da boyzzzzz' and being a result of being an ex footballer is a nonsense.
How many ex footballers do you know with that amount of net worth? He obviously has does something right whith his business ventures.

cool, so you agree with me.

 

[TheGrizz]

cool, so you agree with me.

Only partly, but you obviously aren't interested in the nuance.

 

[jmoo wan]

Only partly, but you obviously aren't interested in the nuance.

i’ll still let you nuance my magical **** ring if you want ?

 

[Old Campaigner]

I am not too worried by Andrew Welsh

Andrew Welsh

Age

42

Ht

188cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.6

5star

on the board in and of itself.

Successful club like Richmond (Emmett Dunne), Melbourne (Brad Green

Brad Green

Age

44

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.2

2star

K

5.8

3star

HB

1.4

2star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.4

5star

) and Sydney (Leo Barry

Leo Barry

Age

48

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

4.4

1star

K

2.6

1star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.8

1star

T

1.2

3star

and Michael O'Loughlin

Michael O'loughlin

Age

48

Ht

189cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.9

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.2

5star

) have former players on there.

The question is, if you scrubbed out their name and ignored their playing career, are they qualified to join the board?
Welsh is now worth close to a quarter of a billion dollars through his business and property dealings, so I would personally consider his business acumen would qualify him to do so.

The problem is when you appoint guys 'coz football' ..... like Sheedy.

He made his money in property development. That doesn't require business acumen, it requires mates in the right places.

 

[dank420_]

cool, so you agree with me.

Without the football part he’s just another coterie.

 

[DonsRule]

Or people who get into it because they want to use the club as their personal play thing.

While I agree at some level, hes done very very well for himself. Not many ex AFL players are developing $250m~-$400m~ developments be worth around $40m themselves by just their afl links. Thats a hell of a lot of money to play with.. Not arguing he likely wouldn't be there without his AFL career but very very few players have taken that kinda step post career.

 

[TheGrizz]

He made his money in property development. That doesn't require business acumen, it requires mates in the right places.

Which is why all footballers are worth what Welsh is, obviously.... wait.

 

[BrunoV]

I am not too worried by Andrew Welsh on the board in and of itself.

Successful club like Richmond (Emmett Dunne), Melbourne (Brad Green) and Sydney (Leo Barry and Michael O'Loughlin) have former players on there.

The question is, if you scrubbed out their name and ignored their playing career, are they qualified to join the board?
Welsh is now worth close to a quarter of a billion dollars through his business and property dealings, so I would personally consider his business acumen would qualify him to do so.

The problem is when you appoint guys 'coz football' ..... like Sheedy.

He has such an odd place in the game, does Micky O.

 

[Lore]

While I agree at some level, hes done very very well for himself. Not many ex AFL players are developing $250m~-$400m~ developments be worth around $40m themselves by just their afl links. Thats a hell of a lot of money to play with.. Not arguing he likely wouldn't be there without his AFL career but very very few players have taken that kinda step post career.

I don’t have anything against him personally, I don’t know him or much about him beyond his net worth. If he is good at what he does and can help Essendon turn around and act like a professional football club then so be it.

But I also don’t really care how much money he has made. There are some obvious examples of rich people you wouldn’t want in charge of your football club, and plenty who buy privately owned clubs in other sports as their own personal play thing.

His net worth is neither here nor there.

 

[boncer34]

Which is why all footballers are worth what Welsh is, obviously.... wait.

You're not that simple

 

[Old Campaigner]

Which is why all footballers are worth what Welsh is, obviously.... wait.

Not all of them get tipped off about an upcoming rezoning... and once you're in the real estate game it's hard to lose money. I work with a number of clients who do property development and none of them are what I'd consider to be especially bright despite making stupid amounts of money.

 

[foj1]

Which is why all footballers are worth what Welsh is, obviously.... wait.

Hooray
absolutely Agree
what a sanctimonious and self inflated lot you are criticising welsh
self made man who came from no affluent family
a real leader at the Calder cannons during their first premiership- not bad for a kid from westmeadows
got the absolute most out of himself as a footballer
then has made a fortune as a developer
your Cynicism and lack of respect is mind boggling
there Are some people on this site who make smart little critical comments to meet a need in their own life
the fact that welsh is willing to commit time to the club when he clearly does not have to only to be mentioned in the same vein as **** rings is horrible- don’t think these people know much about rings but they may know more about being a …………….

 

[DonsRule]

I don’t have anything against him personally, I don’t know him or much about him beyond his net worth. If he is good at what he does and can help Essendon turn around and act like a professional football club then so be it.

But I also don’t really care how much money he has made. There are some obvious examples of rich people you wouldn’t want in charge of your football club, and plenty who buy privately owned clubs in other sports as their own personal play thing.

His net worth is neither here nor there.

I guess I mean most of the time players get token jobs, where people are attracted to them because of their names/AFL ties, he’s done multiple developments, locally a few land developers have gone under doing very simular to what he does, granted even the syccessful ones may not be super business astute in the grand scheme of things.

 

[DERO]

He has such an odd place in the game, does Micky O.

Michael “rent my name” O’Loughlin?

 

[TheGrizz]

Not all of them get tipped off about an upcoming rezoning... and once you're in the real estate game it's hard to lose money. I work with a number of clients who do property development and none of them are what I'd consider to be especially bright despite making stupid amounts of money.

I'm not saying he didn't use his contacts to get started, I have no doubt he did.
But you don't go from making a nice slice out of land rezoning to making the money he has purely 'coz football' connections.

I mean his company landed a literal billion dollar deal to develop Armstrong creeks town centre, and sold the shopping centre for $55m just last year.
Do you think the developers of Armstrong Creek would hand him that sort of deal because he used to play football? Please.