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Bunk Moreland said:
Well, not like us they don't.

In fact, the best-performed clubs changes coaches very rarely. It's a bit chicken-and-egg of course but the reality is success takes time and unless you commit to a football strategy and see it out then you're no hope.
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we are a bit of an outlier, but not that much.

And I'm not laying this solely at the feet of Dodoro.
It's hard to quantify as you rarely see a coach leave and do better elsewhere (knights, Hird, bomber, Rutten and Woosha haven't anyway).
And we don't tend to lose players to clubs often that aren't known quantities (Ryder, Melksham, Hibberd, Daniher, Saad arguably all the same player they were with us).
So is it development failing, is it coaches, is it the list? or all of it.

my main gripe is we're blaming development, but point to the talls drafted in time to develop to succeed Hooker, Hurley and TBC (plus the lack of a 2nd KPF since Lloyd/Lucas to soften the Daniher leaving blow)
Or the last genuine recruit we had that had future gun written over them?

Development seems a bit of a cop out
 
citizen-erased said:
we are a bit of an outlier, but not that much.

And I'm not laying this solely at the feet of Dodoro.
It's hard to quantify as you rarely see a coach leave and do better elsewhere (knights, Hird, bomber, Rutten and Woosha haven't anyway).
And we don't tend to lose players to clubs often that aren't known quantities (Ryder, Melksham, Hibberd, Daniher, Saad arguably all the same player they were with us).
So is it development failing, is it coaches, is it the list? or all of it.

my main gripe is we're blaming development, but point to the talls drafted in time to develop to succeed Hooker, Hurley and TBC (plus the lack of a 2nd KPF since Lloyd/Lucas to soften the Daniher leaving blow)
Or the last genuine recruit we had that had future gun written over them?

Development seems a bit of a cop out
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Ill go with “all of it”!
 

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Bunk Moreland said:
You can be assured the coteries get who they want and they have done again here.

In no small part because they’re almost the only ones who actually vote.
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It would help if we knew who the other candidates are too. The general AFL media don't give a crap about club governance unless someone screws up, and the club media is in house, they're not going to report on anything that doesn't serve the interests of the incumbent board.

I personally did vote, but not for either of the incumbents. Knowing that they'd most likely get back in, and Welsh in particular was never not going to get in, it was more or less a protest vote.

I do agree with the idea of stability but after ousting four existing board members and hand-picking their replacements I can only assume that assuring Barham's presidency was a pre-requisite, either with direct support or as a quid pro quo with powerbrokers, especially the two nobodies that were appointed who aren't former players.

I chose candidates based on avoiding blatant resume padders and cookie cutter 'grew up next to Windy Hill! how great was 2000! MEGA!!!" crap, and preferably noted some sort of area that they wanted to be addressed, but that isn't already noted in the recent board-sanctioned outcome summary of the external review.
 

A wild development has emerged in the Essendon Andrew Thorburn saga, sources close to the matter have revealed.

Exclusive: A new twist has emerged in Essendon’s Andrew Thorburn saga, with the 24-hour chief executive asking to come back to the club as a volunteer.
The multi-millionaire former bank boss hired lawyers after he was forced out of the top job at the Bombers.

But instead of filing legal papers for unfair dismissal, Mr Thorburn has been negotiating a possible return to the club.

Sources with knowledge of the matter but who could not speak publicly said that he wanted a volunteer or advisory role.
“He loves the club, he just wants to come back,” a source said.
“It’s an olive branch.”

Andrew Thorburn has been negotiating a return to Essendon as a volunteer, sources say.
However, the club has been reluctant to agree to Mr Thorburn’s request for fear of a backlash, a source added.

There were concerns that some players would walk out if Mr Thorburn, 57, returned after it was revealed he chaired a church with homophobic views.
Mr Thorburn’s appointment created a national debate when the Herald Sun’s Sam Landsberger revealed just hours before the Bombers best and fairest he was on the board of City on a Hill church.

The church had a sermon on its website that compared abortion to the Holocaust, which it later removed, and called homosexuality a sin.
The sermons were available to be found through four clicks on a Google search, but high-priced Ernst & Young consultants tasked by Essendon to do background checks did not discover them.

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said the views of the City of a Hill church “absolutely appalling”. Picture: NCA NewsWire / David Crosling
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews slammed the views of the church “absolutely appalling” in a press conference on the morning after the Herald Sun’s revelation, spinning Essendon into crisis mode.

The club gave Mr Thorburn an ultimatum to choose between his role at the church and the Essendon job, which came with a salary of more than $850,000 per year.

Sources claim Mr Thorburn had at one point considered dropping the church, but later that day decided to leave the Essendon role.
The decision divided Australia, with Mr Thorburn claiming his right to freedom of religion had been curtailed.

Former Prime Minister John Howard weighed in, criticising Mr Andrews for attacking Mr Thorburn.
“I thought the treatment of Mr Thorburn was disgraceful, it can’t be excused, it can’t be explained away,” Mr Howard said at the time.

Former prime minister John Howard believes the treatment of Mr Thorburn was “disgraceful”. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Damian Shaw
Mr Thorburn first engaged lawyers within days of quitting Essendon in October but has not filed any claims in a court.

Mr Thorburn was paid $2.4 million a year when he was running NAB, which he left in February 2019 following a scathing Royal Commission report into the bank’s practices.

Mr Thorburn said when he quit the bank that he always “acted with integrity.”
“I acknowledge that the bank has sustained damage as a result of its past practices and comments in the Royal Commission’s final report about them.” he said at the time.

“As CEO, I understand accountability. I have always sought to act in the best interests of the bank and customers and I know that I have always acted with integrity.”

Mr Thorburn declined to comment.
Essendon was contacted for comment.
 
I Remember Bluey said:
Former Prime Minister John Howard weighed in, criticising Mr Andrews for attacking Mr Thorburn.
“I thought the treatment of Mr Thorburn was disgraceful, it can’t be excused, it can’t be explained away,” Mr Howard said at the time.
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Don't worry Johnny it was "non-core" treatment.
 
"The club gave Mr Thorburn an ultimatum to choose between his role at the church and the Essendon job, which came with a salary of more than $850,000 per year."

Wait has this been confirmed then?
If he does decide to litigate and this is correct then the club is in serious trouble
 
TheGrizz said:
"The club gave Mr Thorburn an ultimatum to choose between his role at the church and the Essendon job, which came with a salary of more than $850,000 per year."

Wait has this been confirmed then?
If he does decide to litigate and this is correct then the club is in serious trouble
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you’ve quoted the herald-sun there man, just relax!
 
citizen-erased said:
agree and disagree.

It doesn't help when the coach changes, but all clubs change coaches. We've been arguably the worst performed club this century. One GF loss 21 years ago. and finals win that our most recent recruit wasn't alive to see. Yet we keep the list boss throughout and sack 7 coaches in that time.

There are fundamentals in football.
Young talls take time.
Midfields need balance
We've not met the brief on these two for a very long time

I don't think coach changes and development issues are an excuse for the list management over the last 15 years
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Mmmm... Geelong, Richmond, WB, Sydney, Hawthorn, West Coast all won a flag most recently. All have had very few coach changes... maybe one in 15 years?
 

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Dons president prepares for AGM grilling amid Thorburn volunteer report

David Barham is preparing to be grilled by members about the hiring and abrupt departure of Andrew Thorburn at Thursday night’s annual general meeting, as a report emerged that the former chief executive was interested in returning to the club as a volunteer.
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Dons president prepares for AGM grilling amid Thorburn volunteer report​


Essendon president David Barham is preparing to be grilled by club members about the hiring and abrupt departure of Andrew Thorburn at Thursday night’s annual general meeting, as a report emerged that the former chief executive was interested in returning to the club as a volunteer.

Bombers sources were bemused on Wednesday when asked about the News Corp report, which said Thorburn had asked to return to the Bombers as an advisor or volunteer, having not yet commenced litigation for religious discrimination and damage to his reputation.

Andrew Thorburn remains in legal discussions with the Bombers about his departure from the club.


Senior club sources wondered what role Thorburn would want, with some in the dark about whom he had even approached. However, sources close to Thorburn privately claim it was the Bombers who had approached the multi-millionaire. The club did not wish to comment when contacted by The Age.

Club sources also questioned whether Thorburn’s alleged bid to return formed part of his potential legal case against the club.

A spokesman for Thorburn refused to comment when contacted by The Age on Wednesday, saying there were ongoing legal issues at play.

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In a dramatic year for Essendon, when Barham seized power from Paul Brasher, chief executive Xavier Campbell quit and coach Ben Rutten was sacked amid an ultimately failed bid to land Alastair Clarkson, the Bombers were plunged into further chaos in October when, barely 24 hours after his appointment, Thorburn quit following criticism about his role as chairman of City on a Hill church.

In sermons published on its website, the church said practising homosexuality was a sin and likened abortion to a concentration camp – a position Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews, also an Essendon supporter, said had no place in the sporting community.

Thorburn’s departure split opinion, with the former NAB chief executive insisting he had a right to freedom of religion. He had been given the option of quitting his role at the church or remaining with the Bombers.

It emerged last month that the former banker was in negotiations over the circumstances of his departure from Essendon. Thorburn’s stance had hardened, for he believed the case is of religious discrimination and had damaged his reputation.​


Barham, a former television executive, will front Thursday’s AGM, and is bracing for strong questioning from agitated members about a tumultuous 2022. However, members have reacted favourably to the appointment of Brad Scott as coach, and experienced football administrator Craig Vozzo as Thorburn’s replacement.

Club legend Kevin Sheedy remains on the board, but whether he will remain is in question, for he publicly declared former coach James Hird should have been welcomed back into the key role.
Thorburn left NAB in February 2019, after a scathing Royal Commission report into the bank’s practices. Thorburn has maintained he always “acted with integrity”.

Essendon members have voted in former defender Andrew Welsh and Andrew Muir to fill two open positions on the board. Welsh was appointed three months ago to replace Simon Madden and will head the club’s football subcommittee. Muir was re-elected.
 
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Barham just announced member seating and shade sails at the Hangar to be installed early next year
 
Results of the board election;
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Lore said:
Barham just announced member seating and shade sails at the Hangar to be installed early next year
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About time !
 
Slides from Mahoney's speech.

He specifically said he'd be talking mostly about the AFL Men's team but also that we have five teams and the more integrated we are the better (I'm sure they'll put up a replay so I won't try and remember everything that was said).

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Coaching structure slide is interesting fyi eth-dog
 
Adrian Dodoro question! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
LB#16 said:
Loved the MCG question.
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Pity the MCG contract is up in 2023 but the Marvel one isn't up until 2024. Complicates the process a bit.

Good to hear that it's an overall goal of the club though
 

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