Club Mgmt. Board of Directors as led by President Dave Barham

[BrunoV]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Just another idiot doubling down on delusion.

 

[ghostdog]

So the rest of us don't have to click..

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The only thing I like about this is that Damo is the kind of person who will use his platform to go on and on and on about this shit until he's in a position to say either 'I told you so' or 'It's about time.'

In the meantime, the noise will only get louder until something else gives way.

 

[naraku]

1. This should of been dealt with last year when we went through all the shit and NOT on the eve of the new season.


2. Again, I can NOT understand how Adrian Dodo and Kevin Sheedy are still at the club when it seems pretty obvious they're the problem.
Sheedy trying to pull his little pud to get his way even though he couldn't get Hird back.
Dodo , yes I know the saga ****ed us including him, has NOT built a list for us in the 20 year's we have been here.


Anyone else know of a job where if you don't meet KPI's for 20 years you would still have a job? And as far as I'm co concerned, that's a fact. We've been NOWHERE since Adrian Dodoro has been recruitment/list manager (whatever title) or has been involved. MUST BE MOVED ON FROM THE CLUB!!

 

[citizen-erased]

1. This should of been dealt with last year when we went through all the s**t and NOT on the eve of the new season.


2. Again, I can NOT understand how Adrian Dodo and Kevin Sheedy are still at the club when it seems pretty obvious they're the problem.
Sheedy trying to pull his little pud to get his way even though he couldn't get Hird back.
Dodo , yes I know the saga ****ed us including him, has NOT built a list for us in the 20 year's we have been here.


Anyone else know of a job where if you don't meet KPI's for 20 years you would still have a job? And as far as I'm co concerned, that's a fact. We've been NOWHERE since Adrian Dodoro has been recruitment/list manager (whatever title) or has been involved. MUST BE MOVED ON FROM THE CLUB!!

Im keen to wonder which side everyone thought was top 4.
Best we managed was an emotionally charged potential 5th in 2013. Quite likely sustained from a hangover of doping

If it took him 7 years from 07 to build the post sheedy top 4 list, why hasnt it happened in the last 7 with better picks?

 

[Lore]

Im keen to wonder which side everyone thought was top 4.
Best we managed was an emotionally charged potential 5th in 2013. Quite likely sustained from a hangover of doping

If it took him 7 years from 07 to build the post sheedy top 4 list, why hasnt it happened in the last 7 with better picks?

They seem to think the current list is in that bracket… just needs development and a good run with injuries

 

[citizen-erased]

They seem to think the current list is in that bracket… just needs development and a good run with injuries

Cats will be shaking in their boots

 

[faible]

why hasnt it happened in the last 7 with better picks

Cmon now. No list manager has dealt with the other shit EFC has brought upon itself to even know if they’d do any better.

 

[yodellinhank]

1. This should of been dealt with last year when we went through all the s**t and NOT on the eve of the new season.

Fully agree. The only thing is maybe Vozzo coming in with fresh eyes, but I think you're bang on.

 

[ant555]

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Pretty much sums it up.

 

[ghostdog]

The poster who described Sheedy as a narcissist and a megalomaniac was spot on.

Loved your work Sheeds, but FFS, get a clue.

 

[Doss]

The poster who described Sheedy as a narcissist and a megalomaniac was spot on.

Loved your work Sheeds, but FFS, get a clue.

Don’t really care about the clue anymore. I’d just rather he get lost.

 

[citizen-erased]

Cmon now. No list manager has dealt with the other s**t EFC has brought upon itself to even know if they’d do any better.

Noble and Reid did ok after the crows threw itself to the wolves over tippett and losing gun after gun to clubs outside SA to build a club that for a brief period looked the best in the country and made a GF....if i recall, their draft sanctions were worse

 

[citizen-erased]

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Still not a sliding doors, but the assessment is bang on.

I picture images of scott from the roos coaching box after dubious free kicks.....but in meetings at the hangar

 

[ghostdog]

Don’t really care about the clue anymore. I’d just rather he get lost.

Well, I probably would have used the word 'retire', but yeah. It's time to go.

 

[bomberlegend2007]

I honestly think Scott knows how shit the situation is at Essendon before he got the job. Im sure it’s been a running gag at AFL House for the last few years.

 

[faible]

Noble and Reid did ok after the crows threw itself to the wolves over tippett and losing gun after gun to clubs outside SA to build a club that for a brief period looked the best in the country and made a GF....if i recall, their draft sanctions were worse

They also didn’t have an entire playing group suspended, churn through coaches and have the soul of the club destroyed for the best part of the decade though.

It’s not all just about the draft sanctions.

 

[citizen-erased]

They also didn’t have an entire playing group suspended, churn through coaches and have the soul of the club destroyed for the best part of the decade though.

It’s not all just about the draft sanctions.

I dont see anything outside the sanctions and the potential exodus as an excuse

They also had a father figure coach murdered mid season.
Went craig to sanderson to walsh to pyke. Not too different from us.

Taking more than 4-5 years to rebuild isnt sustainable in the afl anymore. Dodoro and team have been less than underwhelming

 

[faible]

I dont see anything outside the sanctions and the potential exodus as an excuse

Ok.

 

[ant555]

I dont see anything outside the sanctions and the potential exodus as an excuse

They also had a father figure coach murdered mid season.
Went craig to sanderson to walsh to pyke. Not too different from us.

Taking more than 4-5 years to rebuild isnt sustainable in the afl anymore. Dodoro and team have been less than underwhelming

The last line is not true IMO. Most proper rebuilds take 5 to 7 years and if you try and take short cuts you end up spending 2 or 3 different periods doing a rebuild. Sustainable does not really come into it.
Richmond. Melbourne. Bulldogs (under 2 coaches).
The Crows are a bit different . They player in a GF 6 years ago so there was still some players on the list that had finals winning experience.
Collingwood are in the same boat. Everyone missed the fact that they had 13 players in their best side last year that had played in a GF.
Geelong to 7 years under Bomber and then changed the tend by continually having a good core group and culture.
There are variations.
Our issue is we have no finals winning culture to lean on. It will take every bit of 7 years to turn it around if they actually get it right.

 

[bomberlegend2007]

The last line is not true IMO. Most proper rebuilds take 5 to 7 years and if you try and take short cuts you end up spending 2 or 3 different periods doing a rebuild. Sustainable does not really come into it.
Richmond. Melbourne. Bulldogs (under 2 coaches).
The Crows are a bit different . They player in a GF 6 years ago so there was still some players on the list that had finals winning experience.
Collingwood are in the same boat. Everyone missed the fact that they had 13 players in their best side last year that had played in a GF.
Geelong to 7 years under Bomber and then changed the tend by continually having a good core group and culture.
There are variations.
Our issue is we have no finals winning culture to lean on. It will take every bit of 7 years to turn it around if they actually get it right.

So how many years into our rebuild are we?

 

[citizen-erased]

The last line is not true IMO. Most proper rebuilds take 5 to 7 years and if you try and take short cuts you end up spending 2 or 3 different periods doing a rebuild. Sustainable does not really come into it.
Richmond. Melbourne. Bulldogs (under 2 coaches).
The Crows are a bit different . They player in a GF 6 years ago so there was still some players on the list that had finals winning experience.
Collingwood are in the same boat. Everyone missed the fact that they had 13 players in their best side last year that had played in a GF.
Geelong to 7 years under Bomber and then changed the tend by continually having a good core group and culture.
There are variations.
Our issue is we have no finals winning culture to lean on. It will take every bit of 7 years to turn it around if they actually get it right.

I should have clarified thats 4-5 years to get to competitive finals stage.
Then you get a window to add whats needed for a premiership. Im not looking that far forward any time soon

 

[ant555]

So how many years into our rebuild are we?

This one three but it is a set back changing coaches.
I know what people say. We have been rebuilding for 20 years but the fact is a lot of the time when it happens there are 2 or 3 failed rebuilds like Carlton
In our case we did a 5 or 6 year build from 2007 after spending years topping up after 2000. We then had the saga to deal with and then tried to hang on and top up thinking we where still in the window in 2017/2018/2019.
History in the AFL says continually turning over coaches also pushes the time line out.
After the 2020 season there was a clear start to another rebuild.

 

[ant555]

I should have clarified thats 4-5 years to get to competitive finals stage.
Then you get a window to add whats needed for a premiership. Im not looking that far forward any time soon

You leant that lesson last year.
Right now I think we are in year 3 but changing coaches generally adds more time to it.

 

[citizen-erased]

You leant that lesson last year.
Right now I think we are in year 3 but changing coaches generally adds more time to it.

Bright side is i reckon brad has the experience and maturity to adapt his plan to a group whilst shaping it at the same time. I don't expect a square peg/round hole approach.

I also think he hamstring ourselves with our recruiting too.
We cant seem to build quality mature depth.
Whilst merrett, ridley, redman, mcgrath, parish, etc developed it was on heppell, shiel, Smith, hooker, daniher, saad
Most of them are gone, so whilst hobbs, tsatas, reid, perkins, cox develop, its on merrett, parish, mcgrath ridley, redman to stand up.

Some of it is from a 2013/14 pinch but i reckon a lot is from just before that where heppell and daniher were our only decent picks for 3-4 years. One is nearly cooked and the other left.
And our inability to get players beyond 30 without breaking down

I reckon merrett and parish will be veteran stage before we compete. So we really need them to be competitive 30+ year olds

 

[yodellinhank]

Don’t really care about the clue anymore. I’d just rather he get lost.

That's just so Essington quick fix. Get rid of Sheeds and everything will be okay. It didn't work last time.

You leant that lesson last year.
Right now I think we are in year 3 but changing coaches generally adds more time to it.

We can't do a proper rebuild without a proper knock down, and too much seems heritage listed.

 

[andleanback]

So how many years into our rebuild are we?

I’d say this is year 3 list strategy wise, year 1 for everything else. As mentioned by other posters it’s a lot harder when you don’t have that older core who have been there done that and know what it takes, you’re sortve fumbling around in the dark for a while and hope everything comes together and clicks.