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Lloyd himself is a chief contributor to the rot that has set in at the club.
Brilliant player, but like a lot of superstar forward he was at his best when he focused on himself and the me-first attitude that has plagued us for 15+years can be traced to the period of his captaincy under Knights.
Make it the one condition of his hiring.
He can do absolutely anything he wants without interference, but the long sleeves stay.
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well you've gone and jinxed now haven't youwell it can't go any worse this time so there's that.
Getting away from the coach for a second I suspect this is also an issue for our senior players who where young players learning how to play me first footy from their previous leaders.David King said it best.
Its too lateKeep Rutten.
Who do you consider our senior players to be and which previous leaders do you refer to?Getting away from the coach for a second I suspect this is also an issue for our senior players who where young players learning how to play me first footy from their previous leaders.
Absolutely. Just as players that emerge under good leaders learn to embrace those standards the players unfortunate enough to come through under poor leadership will carry that forward with them as well.Getting away from the coach for a second I suspect this is also an issue for our senior players who where young players learning how to play me first footy from their previous leaders.
Getting away from the coach for a second I suspect this is also an issue for our senior players who where young players learning how to play me first footy from their previous leaders.
It's a bit hard to change when you lack the depth to drop guys for not defending. They probably could have knocked a bit of team-first into Parish if they had the freedom to play him in the VFL until he gave them what they wanted but with a weak list you don't have that option.Fair enough, but that's the main job of the coach to change imo. If you're a defensive coach for one year, then you have your hand in and amongst the playing group + offensive side for another year while supported, then you're the "official" coach for another 2 years... we really shouldn't be looking to the "senior guys" for habits being taught by this point.
Think that is pretty easy.Who do you consider our senior players to be and which previous leaders do you refer to?
Out of interest how do you rate the guys who came after - Langford, Laverde, McGrath, Ridley etc?Think that is pretty easy.
Parish , Merrett , Heppell. Learned the soft culture from our previous leaders.
Not a popular thing to say but Jobe was a great player but he was not a hit you between the eyes leader.
Brendan Goddard was a player who spoke well and tried to lead but was also a player who could not follow any instructions from the coach as far as defending goes and it cost him his list spot when he still had some footy left in him.
Brent Stanton was a me footballer. So was Hooker. So was Hurley.
It pretty much started under Lloyd and has kept going.
There was a rumour that Clarko wanted to bring Liam Shiels to Norf as a senior leader - is he worth looking at?Getting away from the coach for a second I suspect this is also an issue for our senior players who where young players learning how to play me first footy from their previous leaders.
How good is proper process?Whately and Robbo believe that Clarkson could be the coach of Essendon by the end of the week.
Robbo also thinks if we get Clarkson, we’re getting Todd Viney (goodbye to Dodoro).
Saying it’s a shake up two decades in the making.
Probably going to rant a bit shortly so bear with me
I agree the coach has to sell his message and get it across and Truck has failed. The problem we have had is we went from one coach in Worsfold who empowered the players to drive the changes. It was a very bad move as we did not have the leadership for the players to drive it. At the end of 2020 the players where calling for the coach to drive the standards. Maybe because they have been listening to Trucks defensive message from the 2019 season they have found that message stale. That may be the issue. As an assistant you do not get a lot of scope to change things outside your area. Truck had the scope to mold the defensive actions but he has had limited time to do what other senior coaches get to do and that is work the list management and bring in players he wants and move on others. He has had limited drafts to say I want this type of player or that style of player.Fair enough, but that's the main job of the coach to change imo. If you're a defensive coach for one year, then you have your hand in and amongst the playing group + offensive side for another year, then you're the "official" coach for another 2 years... we really shouldn't be looking to the "senior guys" for habits being taught by this point.
Yes.There was a rumour that Clarko wanted to bring Liam Shiels to Norf as a senior leader - is he worth looking at?
Neither have we yet. Whoops.