News Brendan McCartney joins Essendon

[Slattery_20]

So because it's someone you've never heard of you're pissed off?

McCartney is a great get

Précis

 

[Lance Uppercut]

if you're in any doubt of the quality of this get, have a read of the reactions on the Geelong board.

Some of them are more disappointed losing McCartney than Bomber

 

[Kong]

I'm getting sick of this.

We were given promises of an extensive and meticulous search for a dream team coaching panel, and I was looking forward to the instalment of one of the most consummate coaching assemblies, under James Hird, ever.

Instead, we've lost Richardson, managed to pick up the bloke who ratted us out for salary cap breaches, and a rando from Geelong.

Give me Laidley and Thompson, then I'll be happy. At this stage, I'm not liking Hird's chances as an inexperienced coach with a profoundly unimpressive panel behind him.

Responses as below:

Some people can never be pleased.

I'm glad Corcoran blew the whistle, we were cheating.

And he also saved us further penalties by doing so when he did.

He did the honest thing, and the best thing for the club. Get over whatever it is you're "under".

We've just appointed the "assistant of the year" and you're complaining. Get a clue.

 

[juppy]

So he is taking up a senior assistant role, is that the role that people thought Thompson would get? Or was that senior director?

As far as I can tell the Director of Coaching position would be a senior assistant role but I imagine that he would not be in that role (just my opinion).

Can see him in as a senior assistant with a heavy emphasis on player development and with the Director of Coaching position still up for grabs. Once again, just my opinion but I would imagine the director of coaching position would be someone who has held recent senior coach role.

Edit: Slats beat me to it

 

[Kong]

So this is effectively Richardson's replacement, meaning Bomber will still be announced as director of coaches, and hopefully, Laidley as another assistant.

Or do you think they'll use McCartney as Hird's main go-to man on game day?

 

[Slattery_20]

Re Corcoran, you can either take the word of the ex-board members who were shown up; or you could extrapolate Hird's opinion (bringing him back).

 

[Boxhead_31]

I'm getting sick of this.

We were given promises of an extensive and meticulous search for a dream team coaching panel, and I was looking forward to the instalment of one of the most consummate coaching assemblies, under James Hird, ever.

Instead, we've lost Richardson, managed to pick up the bloke who ratted us out for salary cap breaches, and a rando from Geelong.

Give me Laidley and Thompson, then I'll be happy. At this stage, I'm not liking Hird's chances as an inexperienced coach with a profoundly unimpressive panel behind him.

Being a bit harsh there mate Macca was one of our best assisstants very knowledgable about all aspects of the game and is great at developing young talent very sad to see him go wish Brendan all the best for the future

 

[Ben the Gooner]

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=7805&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Essendon Football Club today confirmed the appointment of Brendan McCartney as an assistant coach at the Club.

...

“While his role will primarily be working with our AFL side, we believe Brendan will be able to pass on some valuable knowledge to our development academy as well.”

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=7805&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

No mention of "senior assistant"

 

[juppy]

So this is effectively Richardson's replacement, meaning Bomber will still be announced as director of coaches, and hopefully, Laidley as another assistant.

Or do you think they'll use McCartney as Hird's main go-to man on game day?

Was thinking about this after I heard the news and cant see the director being someone that was recently an assistant. Will need to be a recent senior coach that will understand everything that is involved with Hirds position. Not saying McCartney wouldnt be great in the position but but McCartney didnt do the position that Hird is looking to do so wouldnt make too much sense to teach him how to do it.

 

[Oh Tayteridge]

if you're in any doubt of the quality of this get, have a read of the reactions on the Geelong board.

Some of them are more disappointed losing McCartney than Bomber

Good to know. Hopefully he proves to be as successful at Essendon. edit: not sarcastic

Me being unimpressed by the coaching panel thus far is centred upon the promise of big name coaching experience.

Wellman and Goodwin hardly exemplify this, although they both hold genuine football knowledge in their own right. I'm glad that the rest of you are sold on the appointment of McCartney, and further investigation shows that he is considered amongst the elite in coaching circles, however I'll wait to be completely convinced.

I feel our club is at the crossroads, and if Sir James fails then we are in a precarious situation.

I'm sure you can understand me stressing over the importance that we make the correct decision for every single appointment.

 

[Phone]

does this mean we're safe from dean wallis? phew

 

[Ben the Gooner]

does this mean we're safe from dean wallis? phew

We still need a development coach.

 

[Brent Prismall#9]

Article from the AFL website.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104061/default.aspx

HIGHLY-respected Geelong assistant Brendan McCartney has left the Cats and will sit alongside James Hird at Essendon in 2011.

McCartney, who has spent 11 seasons at Skilled Stadium in a development and coaching role, will next year be an assistant coach with the Bombers.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/104061/default.aspx

Sounds a similar type to Richardson in the fact that his got lot of assistant coaching experience, has been a very successful development coach and is very highly rated in the business.

I don't think he'll be that "senior assistant/director of coaching" were looking for I reckon he'll almost be a direct replacement for Richardson. So does that mean he'll be our new forward line coach?

 

[stugots]

looks like another good get, plenty of experience at a successful club is just what we need i would have thought, duno what some are stressing, all coming together nicely

 

[Bombertastic]

Good news.

Wasnt the proviso that if bomber left and went somewhere else he couldnt take any of their staff???

Well if Brendan comes first before Bomber signs it doesn't matter. Anyway I really don't think Bomber will be coming now.

 

[AngelEyes]

Good news.




Well if Brendan comes first before Bomber signs it doesn't matter. Anyway I really don't think Bomber will be coming now.

Possible but that is a very simplistic way of looking at.

If Bomber is signed, sealed and deliver to Essendon already (and has been since he allegedly quit Geelong to join Essendon), it may not be as simple as that.If Geelong is covering up things re: Thompson to Essendon like some are suggesting, then surely this date would date back to as soon as Bomber left. If he hands in his resignation to leave for Essendon and such an agreement was struck, I think it would be a tad more complicated than saying McCartney signed publicly first so bad luck.

However, no one really knows the details of any "deal" that has taken place regarding restrictions on coaching staff etc if one even exists. I'm sure Essendon wouldn't break their agreement if they had one as that would be stupid.

Back to McCartney, I think the guy obviously jumped before he was pushed. He was highly rated by Thompson and I don't doubt that Thompson's influence could have got him the job BUT he obviously wasn't a contender for Geelong's head coaching job (so thats probably more an indication of Geelong's admins thoughts) and they wanted him to be a development coach not necessarily a full fledged match day assistant coach. More assistants will likely jump if they go for an outsider especially as like Essendon, a new coach means clean of assistant coaches.

Apparently highly rated but only time will tell.

 

[Hurlstein]

Instead, we've lost Richardson, managed to pick up the bloke who ratted us out for salary cap breaches, and a rando from Geelong.

I've been coached by Macca and have been hoping we would get him across somehow for a long time now. Just about the most knowledgable football mind I have ever come across and is extraordinary at revving up his men. He also has a strong defensive mindset which I'm sure plenty of you will be happy to hear.
So how about you stop assuming someone can coach just because you've seen their name in the headlines and start paying attention to what they can do... he's just been an assisstant coach during one of the most dominant eras of modern football for goodness sake.

 

[juppy]

Edit: In response to Angle Eyes

If Geelong came out and said we knew the deal was done then they would be admitting to lying to the members and fans about Bomber which would make them look like they have further mismanaged the end of the year by not appointing a coach and letting players/coaches run out the door.

Not saying either way is true but if that was the case then Geelong would have to take a bit of crap from people.

 

[Brent Prismall#9]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but a little piece at the end of the article on the Essendon website will please some people.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=7805

In further changes to Essendon’s coaching panel, Hamilton today confirmed that Adrian Hickmott will look to pursue other opportunities next season.

“We wish Adrian all the best in his future endeavours and thank him for the strong contribution he has provided to our Club over the past three years.” Hamilton said.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=7805

Finally his gone

 

[AngelEyes]

Edit: In response to Angle Eyes

If Geelong came out and said we knew the deal was done then they would be admitting to lying to the members and fans about Bomber which would make them look like they have further mismanaged the end of the year by not appointing a coach and letting players/coaches run out the door.

Not saying either way is true but if that was the case then Geelong would have to take a bit of crap from people.

I'm not sure it would ever get public but would certainly think there would be some pretty serious letters flying around if Essendon broke some agreement.

I don't know if the publicity is as bad as it sounds for Geelong. Even if Bomber did tell them that he was going to Essendon as he didn't want to coach anymore, I don't know if they have done much wrong. If they did make such an agreement, I suppose the scenario is that they tried to limit losses of staff.

I would think Essendon would cop a fair bit of flak too especially Hird. However, its more the same type of situation as Geelong, its speculated but just not confirmed. Doesn't look good for anyone involved so I would think that any such move would be kept on the hush hush.

As I said, I don't think Essendon would be that stupid. I don't think McCartney is that valuable or unique a piece to warrant doing such a thing.

 

[juppy]

I don't know if the publicity is as bad as it sounds for Geelong. Even if Bomber did tell them that he was going to Essendon as he didn't want to coach anymore, I don't know if they have done much wrong. If they did make such an agreement, I suppose the scenario is that they tried to limit losses of staff.

I am saying in the event that they admit they knew Bomber was going all that "burnt out" talk, which bomber laughed at, would be shown to be a load of garbage, damage control and a lie to people that give the club money.

I would think Essendon would cop a fair bit of flak too especially Hird.

Couldnt care less and niether should they.

As I said, I don't think Essendon would be that stupid. I don't think McCartney is that valuable or unique a piece to warrant doing such a thing.

Coach of the year isn't usualy a valuable thing, we should have went for someone else

 

[Redb#]

Go get 'em Bombers, get what you need - we'll support you 150%.

Go Dons!

 

[The Dustbin]

Just had mild heart attack. Thought it was Jason McCartney. Great appointment.

 

[AngelEyes]

I am saying in the event that they admit they knew Bomber was going all that "burnt out" talk, which bomber laughed at, would be shown to be a load of garbage, damage control and a lie to people that give the club money.



Couldnt care less and niether should they.



Coach of the year isn't usualy a valuable thing, we should have went for someone else

Yes but Geelong lying is no worse than Hird lying. I don't see how one is worse than the other.

In hindsight, how should have Geelong handled it all? I think Bomber is likely not wanting to handle the pressure of being a senior coach and wanting to take on something less stressful. That fits pretty well in with Geelong said. Hird categorically denied that Essendon had approached Bomber. Don't see how that is any better credibility wise. I would think fall out from Ablett would be far worse than anything about Bomber. Losing Bomber would hurt but the focus of Geelong's losses haven't really been on him unless you barrack for Essendon.

Assistant coach of the year? Wow, can you even think of who the past assistant coaches of the year are? I think a far better indication of Geelong's view of his coaching ability is that they haven't considered him for their senior role despite heavily looking at Sanderson and Hinkley (both basically internal guys). I think Bomber may have rated him far more than Geelong's admin did. No doubting he is obviously reasonable at what he does. However, I don't think he is by far the best of the best that is hanging around. There are lots of good assistants and I don't he is utterly unique or anything like that. However, Thompson is unique and irreplaceable.

Thompson would be worth risking trouble over but I doubt McCartney brings something that a few other assistant couldn't bring. Not saying he is not a good get - just that he isn't something super special worth risking legal action over - just a good assistant coach.

 

[Slattery_20]

Just had mild heart attack. Thought it was Jason McCartney. Great appointment.

Just had mild heart attack. Thought it was Stella McCartney.