Brent Macaffer 3rd best tagger in the league

[Hinequarters]

Collingwood's Brent Macaffer, in his first year specialising in the role, boasted the third-best record behind Crowley and Curnow. The Magpies realised they needed a shut-down specialist in what had largely been a free-wheeling midfield.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-ed-curnow-emerges-as-afls-no-2-tagger-20140111-30nri.html#ixzz2q6Hqa0FY

 

[TheFreshBanana]

Pretty good. Although it might have something to do with why Macaffer only spent 16 games as a tagger (not sure how many games he missed last season)

 

[Shaneprice97]

Pretty good. Although it might have something to do with why Macaffer only spent 16 games as a tagger (not sure how many games he missed last season)

Macaffer didnt tag in games against Melbourne and Gws because there was really no point tagging Nathan Jones and Callan Ward and Brent didnt start tagging till our game with st kilda. But winning 14/16 tags is crazy good, Macaffer successfully tagged AA players like Josh Kennedy and Kieran Jack plus other all australians and A grade mids and still finish with a 14/16 win chart when Clint Jones who was regarded as the best tagger in the game only a couple of seasons ago has a 12/19 then you know Caff is Quality.

 

[loki04]

Macaffer didnt tag in games against Melbourne and Gws because there was really no point tagging Nathan Jones and Callan Ward and Brent didnt start tagging till our game with st kilda. But winning 14/16 tags is crazy good, Macaffer successfully tagged AA players like Josh Kennedy and Kieran Jack plus other all australians and A grade mids and still finish with a 14/16 win chart when Clint Jones who was regarded as the best tagger in the game only a couple of seasons ago has a 12/19 then you know Caff is Quality.

He is a great match up for certain types but not so great for others, he lacks a bit of lateral speed and stop start explosive pace to stop the Griffen types.

This is where Tooves or Marley come in as a better option in certain games.

 

[BEEG]

I liked how he would start on a flank then run onto his man after the bounce he needs about 6 more touches a game his target should be about 16

Great hands can be a link man on the lead down the wing

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

His only area for improvement would be to kick one or two goals a match. Would be a huge asset if he improves his offensive game.

 

[jerry springer]

one of bucks best moves this year, still scratching my head why he wasn't on Ablett, but overall we have found the tagger we have always needed this year

 

[Kirby]

He did a great job in his first year at it. As Loki said he has to be matched against the right types but he has some ability himself and is very strong. He has similar attributes to the 2 best taggers of recent years in Crowley and Ling.

 

[The 10th Letter]

A commendable performance in his first year as a tagger and it's nice to once again have an option for shutting down an opposition play maker. Needs to make his touches count and be a little more constructive when he does win the ball at a stoppage, but it's hard to fault him given the results above.

As others have mentioned, he's not suited to every type but we should be able to find a suitable match-up or role for him most weeks. Just don't want to see him guarding nimble types deep in defence; he either runs with a suitable midfielder or operates as a defensive/hit-up target out of the forward half.

Agree that reinventing Caff as a tagger was one of Buckley's better moves last year. I'll be looking for him to shut down Mundy from the opening bounce (not the second quarter onwards) in round one.

 

[THATSGOLD]

Collingwood's Brent Macaffer, in his first year specialising in the role, boasted the third-best record behind Crowley and Curnow. The Magpies realised they needed a shut-down specialist in what had largely been a free-wheeling midfield.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-ed-curnow-emerges-as-afls-no-2-tagger-20140111-30nri.html#ixzz2q6Hqa0FY

If only we actually used him on Gary Ablett to prevent 50 possessions and getting beaten by the Gold Coast suns. Not great coaching.

 

[dansa]

Remember this is the same Champion Data stats that most people said they had no faith in when the player reviewed was Cloke.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

Remember this is the same Champion Data stats that most people said they had no faith in when the player reviewed was Cloke.

You have to look at what stats they are using to judge by, to make a decision whether you believe it or not.

Regarding Cloke, they didn't specify what criteria they were judging by. And anyway, if you are the 2nd in the Coleman and takes the most contested marks, you are elite in my books.

Here, they've used a good criteria for a tagger, it's logical and it's applicable. It should probably also apply to how many possessions they get themselves, like Ling who was prolific in shutting down his opponent but also in getting possessions himself.

 

[forwardflanker]

He is a great match up for certain types but not so great for others, he lacks a bit of lateral speed and stop start explosive pace to stop the Griffen types.

This is where Tooves or Marley come in as a better option in certain games.

Hopfully this is to do with coming off a knee reconstruction and will be better in the coming seasons. His straight line pace is deceptively good and his body size makes him very suitable to tagging all kinds of midfielders. If he can fix the turning circle then he could be pretty formidable.

 

[forwardflanker]

Perhaps the best thing about those stats was that Carlton had 3 taggers (not including Bryce Gibbs). It says a lot about where they're heading these days

 

[Markfs]

If only we actually used him on Gary Ablett to prevent 50 possessions and getting beaten by the Gold Coast suns. Not great coaching.

Do you think we need to start another thread to discuss Buckley's bad coaching in the Ablett game. I kinda miss it when Buckley's poor coaching isnt referred to at least once or twice a week....

 

[Markfs]

If only we actually used him on Gary Ablett to prevent 50 possessions and getting beaten by the Gold Coast suns. Not great coaching.

Actually, there's no need to start another Buckley's poor coaching against GC thread, because people can continue to raise the issue in totally unrelated threads like this one..

 

[jmac70]

He is a great match up for certain types but not so great for others, he lacks a bit of lateral speed and stop start explosive pace to stop the Griffen types.

This is where Tooves or Marley come in as a better option in certain games.

I don't think that we will be using either of these players as taggers. Toovey is probably the most flexible defender we have in that he can play on small and tall players whilst providing pace from half back. Marley has had a fine season and in my opinin will continue to develop in defence. These two players are automatic selections in our back line and are far too valuable to use as taggers. In addition to Caff I would like to see Goldsack used as a defensive forward tag on players such as Justin Westhoff.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Third best is about right in my opinion. A lot of upside too considering he was coming back from a virtual 2 year layoff. Will have a bigger tank this year so I expect massive improvement again. Whether he is a tagger or a backman or a defensive forward is irrelevant in my opinion....hopefully he can fill all roles on a horses for courses basis.

 

[dejavu]

I don't think that we will be using either of these players as taggers. Toovey is probably the most flexible defender we have in that he can play on small and tall players whilst providing pace from half back. Marley has had a fine season and in my opinin will continue to develop in defence. These two players are automatic selections in our back line and are far too valuable to use as taggers. In addition to Caff I would like to see Goldsack used as a defensive forward tag on players such as Justin Westhoff.

I actually think it would be handy to have Goldsack as a second tagger for those players like griffen who have the pace to trouble someone like the Caff. Goldsack has the speed and defensive capabilities to be a quality tagger IMO. I'm not saying to play 2 taggers at the same time but to switch between the two when required - horses for courses.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Macaffer has all the attributes to be a great offensive tagger.

I can only imagine that he'll become even better as he gets more eexperience in the role. He actually will learn immensely being beaten a few times too.

 

[DWil6]

I agree that we need another pacey tagging option for faster mids. But if it's a strong bodied mid that isn't express, Caff's the man.


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[SpongePie]

Macaffer has all the attributes to be a great offensive tagger.

I can only imagine that he'll become even better as he gets more eexperience in the role. He actually will learn immensely being beaten a few times too.

Agreed.

The only thing is that tagging is a 2 person role... the player who executes the tag, and the coach who picks the tagging target. Hopefully Bucks will learn from his mistake against the GC, and the 2 an have a successful 2014

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Agreed.

The only thing is that tagging is a 2 person role... the player who executes the tag, and the coach who picks the tagging target. Hopefully Bucks will learn from his mistake against the GC, and the 2 an have a successful 2014

I think Buckley gets a raw deal here.

His decision to tag McKenzie was sound at the time it was made. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Remember, Gaz had 53 posessions against us only 12 months earlier and had ZERO affect on the game. Bucks obviously assumed that even if Gaz had a 40 posession game, he wouldn't hurt us much. But McKenzie coming off half back the way our forward line wasn't keeping the ball in would do far more damage.

It was a well thought out and frankly, logical decision. How was Bucks to know the midfield would play such atrocious unaccountable football?

I still to this day defend his decision to tag McKenzie over Ablett. The only criticism I have, is that by half time, it was clear Ablett WAS having an influence (at the very least 3 quarter time) and the move should have been made. But the initial choice I feel was the right one under the circumstances leading up to that game.

 

[MarkT2]

Macaffer did some good jobs last year. He could be pretty handy this year.

I like the idea of a go to tagger but not a 22 game starting tagger. I'd like to have a great offensive midfield with a player capable of reverting to a stopper role if an opposition mid gets away from us. Rarely under MM did we turn losing games around and that was partly due to not being able to stop an opposition midfielder that was on fire.

Macaffer culd be a good forward who can go into the middle to tag or stop a running backman. Sidebottom could be a good offensive midfielder who can revert to a tagging role. He did that V Adelaide in the final a few years back (was it '09?). He has the running capacity to go with anyone and can hurt an opponent by also attacking.

That's all we need in a tagging sense IMO.

 

[SpongePie]

I still to this day defend his decision to tag McKenzie over Ablett. The only criticism I have, is that by half time, it was clear Ablett WAS having an influence (at the very least 3 quarter time) and the move should have been made. But the initial choice I feel was the right one under the circumstances leading up to that game.

This is my point though, tagging is much with the coach as it is with the player. Be it the initial tag, or adapting during the game. I wasn't trying to pick an anti Bucks argument, merely using the GC as an example to illustrate my point