Preview Brisbane Lions v Geelong Round 6 (Saturday 20 April 7:30PM @ Gabba)

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Brisbane Lions v Geelong
Gabba
7:30PM 20 April 2024




Brisbane Lions 2024 theme as reported by Sam McClure


With a tumultuous start to the season including a trip to America that was only relevant 6 months after it happened, Brisbane finally find themselves hitting a bit of form in the last fortnight. With one of the most impressive performances of the Fagan era in a complete dominance of premiership fancy Melbourne on their home deck, Brisbane find themselves in a position to truly get their flag aspirations back on track. Unfortunately for them, they find themselves up against one of the form teams of the competition.

If there was ever a thing as a perennial contender in the AFL landscape, it would be Geelong. Despite the fact their fans seem to think everyone continually writes them off, anyone who has been paying attention for the last two decades know how the well-oiled Geelong engine keeps chugging along. Although it could be argued they have not faced meaningful opposition thus far, Geelong travel up to Brisbane being undefeated so far in season 2024. Seeking to bounce back from an underwhelming title defence last year, Geelong look close to being back to their best and with a healthy list pose a serious challenge to any opposition.

In a prime time AFL fixture, two premiership aspirants find themselves playing in what is in my unbiased opinion the match of the round.


Recent History

Most Brisbane fans would opine that we have been robbed in our last couple of visits to Kardinia Park. It is fortunate the AFL have decided we are now too big of a club to be sent to G Town and have scheduled our game at the Gabba. Geelong have traditionally traveled well to the Gabba, with the last encounter between these two teams at the venue being decided by 11 points.

Cal Ah Chee put in a terrific shift in Brisbane’s game against Geelong last year and cemented his spot in the best 22 for the remainder of that season. The win was unfortunately overshadowed by Will Ashcroft’s ACL injury. Fingers crossed Will’s rehab continues to progress positively.


Teams

Brisbane

It would be a slight understatement to say Brisbane currently have more injuries than they have grown accustomed to in recent times. Adding to the injuries woes is Zac Bailey expected to miss at least the next month with an ankle injury. Replacing Bailey is most likely to be achieved through magnet shuffling, with Cal Ah Chee to potentially spend more time forward. Brisbane welcome Conor McKenna back from injury, and I expect Bailey’s spot in the side to just be taken by McKenna. I would also give Tunstill a run at VFL level and make someone else a sub, with Dev Robertson being the most likely candidate.

Some posters have suggested moving Answerth to be sub. I think his form has been too good to be dropped, but also Brisbane’s next two games are against teams with incredibly potent small forwards. Answerth’s defensive capabilities will be very useful in shutting down Geelong’s small forwards, with the capacity to stifle link man Gryan Miers being very enticing. I would look at playing McKenna or Wilmot off a wing and rolling back more to allow for this.

In: McKenna, Robertson (Sub)
Out: Bailey, Tunstill (Sub)

Geelong

Geelong decided to treat their veterans conservatively in a week where they had a free win and kept Patrick Dangerfield, Jake Kolodjasnij and Tom Hawkins out of the side. Expect all three to return this week. Some of Geelong’s younger players likely make way for their premiership winning veterans. The only best 22 player Geelong will not have available for selection this week is Cam Guthrie who remains sidelined with a quad injury.

In: Dangerfield, Hawkins, Kolodjasnij
Out: Clark, Neale, O’Sullivan


Key Match ups

Jack Payne v Tom Hawkins

After being dropped due to a dismal game manning Charlie Curnow in round 0, Jack Payne has found his way back into a Brisbane lineup where he has cemented a position in the best 22 in the last 12 months. Although he has managed to build some form by playing on Nick Larkey and Ben Brown, Payne finds himself with a far more difficult assignment this round in Tom Hawkins. Perennially one of the games most imposing key forwards, Hawkins combination of strength and forward nous to find pockets of space to lead into make him a truly difficult opponent for any defender. It will be a team effort to quell Hawkins’ influence, with pressure from upfield crucial to limiting his opportunities. But on the other side of the ledger, Payne simply must maintain his competitiveness that he has displayed in the last two weeks. If Payne’s form reverts to that he displayed when manning Charlie Curnow in round 0, Hawkins could very well fill his boots with a significant haul of goals.

Darcy Gardiner v Tom Stewart

Finding himself in a new role in season 2024, Darcy Gardiner finds himself making a late career shift to the Key Forward post. Results from this change have been somewhat underwhelming to begin the year from a goals perspective, but the success of this move may be measured more in how Gardiner allows Brisbane to maintain their preferred structure of 3 tall forwards. Gardiner has taken a role in attempting to stifle the influence of the oppositions best interceptor and will likely find himself tasked with stopping arguably the AFL’s best in this role in Tom Stewart. Stewart is Geelong’s most important structural piece, being both their best defender as well as one of their most reliable options for rebounding. Stifling his influence both at cutting off Brisbane’s ball movement as well as his work in Geelong’s transition would go a long way to Brisbane winning. Gardiner’s game should be judged on his effectiveness in neutering Stewart’s impact more than anything else if given the assignment. He would hope to have a better effect than he did on Jake Lever, who frequently peeled off without worry to intercept Brisbane’s kicks inside forward 50.


Random Thoughts
Cam Rayner had his official ‘break out game’ according to some esteemed pundits against the Demons last Thursday. With some brilliant work around stoppages and a perfect 10 in the coaches’ votes, a certain Melbourne fan has been left trying to pick the pieces of his Bigfooty career back up on the main board. Our learned friend does make a somewhat valid point in that Rayner has struggled to back performances like this up in the past. Brisbane’s prospects this season depend a lot on elevation from the 21-25 year old cohort which includes Rayner, and seeing him perform strongly in the midfield against Geelong would go a long way to show that he has truly arrived as a consistent star rather than being the tease he has been to this point in his career.

Geelong’s standout attribute as a team is their capacity to transition from their defensive half to their forward line with great speed and composure. This well drilled aspect to their game generally helps to cover for their average midfield and is what lead them to a premiership in 2022. Brisbane for their part have put much emphasis on team defence since the 2022 season, and Geelong is arguably the greatest test to show how far the Lions have come in this regard. If Brisbane’s team defence looks like it did against Melbourne, it will go a long way to preventing the quick transition the likes of Stengle, Miers and Cameron thrive off.

Much has been said about Oscar McInerney’s slow start to 2024. He won’t find many opponents easier to matchup on this year from a pure ruck contest standpoint than Rhys Stanley. Hopefully an easier opponent is what is needed to kick the Big O into gear, as Brisbane look far more dangerous when he is connecting well the midfield and getting into dangerous spots around the ground. The qualifying and preliminary final last year are two great games to showcase what an in form McInerney provides to this Brisbane side.


Prediction

Geelong’s undefeated run comes to an end at the Gabbatoir. David King questions what they stand for and where they are at on First Crack. Brisbane are back baby.

Brisbane by 18
 

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I know we are focusing on Cam ‘rd 5 MVP’ Rayner, but I’ll be interested to see how Payne goes this week. Big test for him. Has been hitting some nice form last few weeks.
 
I assumed (seeing the result on the background in the pub) that it was downgraded to low impact. That they have come out to say effectively "we are letting him off cause he's a good bloke" is actually insane.

Has anyone ever actually been suspended for a sling tackle that didn't result in a concussion yet? Is this the first year they have decided the action is worse then the outcome?
There were quite a few suspensions last year for actions rather than results - or rather they put the base for the action as a suspension, and then the results increased it. This year it seems to have been dialed back a lot before Charlie's charge.
 
I know we are focusing on Cam ‘rd 5 MVP’ Rayner, but I’ll be interested to see how Payne goes this week. Big test for him. Has been hitting some nice form last few weeks.

Don't try to stretch your focus my friend. Focus on the 🐐 that is Rayner.
 
After some good form the last couple of weeks, I am finally actually looking forward to a game again.😂
This should be a cracker, both teams in form, however all 5 of Geelongs games have been against teams in the bottom half of the ladder where ours other than North, are all in the top 8 currently.
So a little hard to judge exactly where Geelong are at. First real test for them.
If we can bring the pressure and tackling that we did against Melbourne we should win comfortably imo.
Lions by 4-6 goals.🦁
 
Brisbane Lions v Geelong
Gabba
7:30PM 20 April 2024




Brisbane Lions 2024 theme as reported by Sam McClure


With a tumultuous start to the season including a trip to America that was only relevant 6 months after it happened, Brisbane finally find themselves hitting a bit of form in the last fortnight. With one of the most impressive performances of the Fagan era in a complete dominance of premiership fancy Melbourne on their home deck, Brisbane find themselves in a position to truly get their flag aspirations back on track. Unfortunately for them, they find themselves up against one of the form teams of the competition.

If there was ever a thing as a perennial contender in the AFL landscape, it would be Geelong. Despite the fact their fans seem to think everyone continually writes them off, anyone who has been paying attention for the last two decades know how the well-oiled Geelong engine keeps chugging along. Although it could be argued they have not faced meaningful opposition thus far, Geelong travel up to Brisbane being undefeated so far in season 2024. Seeking to bounce back from an underwhelming title defence last year, Geelong look close to being back to their best and with a healthy list pose a serious challenge to any opposition.

In a prime time AFL fixture, two premiership aspirants find themselves playing in what is in my unbiased opinion the match of the round.


Recent History

Most Brisbane fans would opine that we have been robbed in our last couple of visits to Kardinia Park. It is fortunate the AFL have decided we are now too big of a club to be sent to G Town and have scheduled our game at the Gabba. Geelong have traditionally traveled well to the Gabba, with the last encounter between these two teams at the venue being decided by 11 points.

Cal Ah Chee put in a terrific shift in Brisbane’s game against Geelong last year and cemented his spot in the best 22 for the remainder of that season. The win was unfortunately overshadowed by Will Ashcroft’s ACL injury. Fingers crossed Will’s rehab continues to progress positively.


Teams

Brisbane

It would be a slight understatement to say Brisbane currently have more injuries than they have grown accustomed to in recent times. Adding to the injuries woes is Zac Bailey expected to miss at least the next month with an ankle injury. Replacing Bailey is most likely to be achieved through magnet shuffling, with Cal Ah Chee to potentially spend more time forward. Brisbane welcome Conor McKenna back from injury, and I expect Bailey’s spot in the side to just be taken by McKenna. I would also give Tunstill a run at VFL level and make someone else a sub, with Dev Robertson being the most likely candidate.

Some posters have suggested moving Answerth to be sub. I think his form has been too good to be dropped, but also Brisbane’s next two games are against teams with incredibly potent small forwards. Answerth’s defensive capabilities will be very useful in shutting down Geelong’s small forwards, with the capacity to stifle link man Gryan Miers being very enticing. I would look at playing McKenna or Wilmot off a wing and rolling back more to allow for this.

In: McKenna, Robertson (Sub)
Out: Bailey, Tunstill (Sub)

Geelong

Geelong decided to treat their veterans conservatively in a week where they had a free win and kept Patrick Dangerfield, Jake Kolodjasnij and Tom Hawkins out of the side. Expect all three to return this week. Some of Geelong’s younger players likely make way for their premiership winning veterans. The only best 22 player Geelong will not have available for selection this week is Cam Guthrie who remains sidelined with a quad injury.

In: Dangerfield, Hawkins, Kolodjasnij
Out: Clark, Neale, O’Sullivan


Key Match ups

Jack Payne v Tom Hawkins

After being dropped due to a dismal game manning Charlie Curnow in round 0, Jack Payne has found his way back into a Brisbane lineup where he has cemented a position in the best 22 in the last 12 months. Although he has managed to build some form by playing on Nick Larkey and Ben Brown, Payne finds himself with a far more difficult assignment this round in Tom Hawkins. Perennially one of the games most imposing key forwards, Hawkins combination of strength and forward nous to find pockets of space to lead into make him a truly difficult opponent for any defender. It will be a team effort to quell Hawkins’ influence, with pressure from upfield crucial to limiting his opportunities. But on the other side of the ledger, Payne simply must maintain his competitiveness that he has displayed in the last two weeks. If Payne’s form reverts to that he displayed when manning Charlie Curnow in round 0, Hawkins could very well fill his boots with a significant haul of goals.

Darcy Gardiner v Tom Stewart

Finding himself in a new role in season 2024, Darcy Gardiner finds himself making a late career shift to the Key Forward post. Results from this change have been somewhat underwhelming to begin the year from a goals perspective, but the success of this move may be measured more in how Gardiner allows Brisbane to maintain their preferred structure of 3 tall forwards. Gardiner has taken a role in attempting to stifle the influence of the oppositions best interceptor and will likely find himself tasked with stopping arguably the AFL’s best in this role in Tom Stewart. Stewart is Geelong’s most important structural piece, being both their best defender as well as one of their most reliable options for rebounding. Stifling his influence both at cutting off Brisbane’s ball movement as well as his work in Geelong’s transition would go a long way to Brisbane winning. Gardiner’s game should be judged on his effectiveness in neutering Stewart’s impact more than anything else if given the assignment. He would hope to have a better effect than he did on Jake Lever, who frequently peeled off without worry to intercept Brisbane’s kicks inside forward 50.


Random Thoughts
Cam Rayner had his official ‘break out game’ according to some esteemed pundits against the Demons last Thursday. With some brilliant work around stoppages and a perfect 10 in the coaches’ votes, a certain Melbourne fan has been left trying to pick the pieces of his Bigfooty career back up on the main board. Our learned friend does make a somewhat valid point in that Rayner has struggled to back performances like this up in the past. Brisbane’s prospects this season depend a lot on elevation from the 21-25 year old cohort which includes Rayner, and seeing him perform strongly in the midfield against Geelong would go a long way to show that he has truly arrived as a consistent star rather than being the tease he has been to this point in his career.

Geelong’s standout attribute as a team is their capacity to transition from their defensive half to their forward line with great speed and composure. This well drilled aspect to their game generally helps to cover for their average midfield and is what lead them to a premiership in 2022. Brisbane for their part have put much emphasis on team defence since the 2022 season, and Geelong is arguably the greatest test to show how far the Lions have come in this regard. If Brisbane’s team defence looks like it did against Melbourne, it will go a long way to preventing the quick transition the likes of Stengle, Miers and Cameron thrive off.

Much has been said about Oscar McInerney’s slow start to 2024. He won’t find many opponents easier to matchup on this year from a pure ruck contest standpoint than Rhys Stanley. Hopefully an easier opponent is what is needed to kick the Big O into gear, as Brisbane look far more dangerous when he is connecting well the midfield and getting into dangerous spots around the ground. The qualifying and preliminary final last year are two great games to showcase what an in form McInerney provides to this Brisbane side.


Prediction

Geelong’s undefeated run comes to an end at the Gabbatoir. David King questions what they stand for and where they are at on First Crack. Brisbane are back baby.

Brisbane by 18

I love that song 😉

Great Preview
 
The players I am worried about re the Cats are Tom Hawkins, Jeremy Cameron and Tom Stewart.

Tom Stewart - If we can negate Stewart's intercept game like we did Steven May and Jake Lever last weekend that would be ideal.

Tom Hawkins - What a brute he is, Jack Payne looking to be getting back to his best form, hopefully keeps him in check, Hawkins ruck work in the F50 also needs to be countered, he always seems to grab or set up a goal or 2 via throw ins.

Jeremy Cameron - Running up and down the ground, can Lester handle him in the F50 and handover when he runs well up the ground.

Get these match up rights and we should win comfortably at the Gabba fortress.
 

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The players I am worried about re the Cats are Tom Hawkins, Jeremy Cameron and Tom Stewart.

Tom Stewart - If we can negate Stewart's intercept game like we did Steven May and Jake Lever last weekend that would be ideal.

Tom Hawkins - What a brute he is, Jack Payne looking to be getting back to his best form, hopefully keeps him in check, Hawkins ruck work in the F50 also needs to be countered, he always seems to grab or set up a goal or 2 via throw ins.

Jeremy Cameron - Running up and down the ground, can Lester handle him in the F50 and handover when he runs well up the ground.

Get these match up rights and we should win comfortably at the Gabba fortress.
Personally I think that if Cameron works his way up outside say 55 from goal, whoever is playing on him should drop off and just create a spare in the D50.
 
Thanks for the excellent preview rye.

McKenna likely to come into the side this week.
I really want Zorko to stay in defense but think Answerth has a role to play down back with his recent form.
The Cats goal scorers taken from footywire

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The easiest selection that keeps the balance of attack from HB and a good F/M player is:
Out Bailey in McKenna with Zorko to Baileys fwd/mid role.
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They could do something newish on the bench but unlikely. Last weeks bench.
[1] Kai Lohmann,[4] Callum Ah Chee,[33] Zac Bailey,[43] Noah Answerth
Slot Zorko in for Bailey with McKenna on field.

Use Zorko, Wilmott & Answerth running through Defense, Wing, Forward & a little Mid.
Zorko: Defense, Forward a little Mid & very little Wing.
Answerth: Defense, Wing
Wilmott: Defense, Wing.
 
Thanks for the excellent preview rye.

McKenna likely to come into the side this week.
I really want Zorko to stay in defense but think Answerth has a role to play down back with his recent form.
The Cats goal scorers taken from footywire

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The easiest selection that keeps the balance of attack from HB and a good F/M player is:
Out Bailey in McKenna with Zorko to Baileys fwd/mid role.
.................................................................

They could do something newish on the bench but unlikely. Last weeks bench.
[1] Kai Lohmann,[4] Callum Ah Chee,[33] Zac Bailey,[43] Noah Answerth
Slot Zorko in for Bailey with McKenna on field.

Use Zorko, Wilmott & Answerth running through Defense, Wing, Forward & a little Mid.
Zorko: Defense, Forward a little Mid & very little Wing.
Answerth: Defense, Wing
Wilmott: Defense, Wing.

I’m a noob as to how interchange strategy works, but I’m presuming McKennas TOG will be heavily managed and would perhaps be a nice way to also manage Zorko a bit through this game. Could they just interchange off one another? With Zorko playing mid/fwd when needed, assuming they can’t interchange for one another for the entire game.
 
Huge game for Gardiner. Surely gets Stewart in a forward tagging role. This is the forward role Darcy should excel at. Stewart is their most important player.

Please for the love of God Fagan keep Zorko at half back! McKenna comes back but it would be madness to move Zorko. Totally different players. Zorko is the only player who can in any way get a similar amount of drive to Coleman. He just has to stay there for the rest of the year.

I would give McKenna a run in the 2s given it’s a double hammy. Dev wing, ah chee forward for Bailey.

If Mckenna plays he can go wing.
 
I’m a noob as to how interchange strategy works, but I’m presuming McKennas TOG will be heavily managed and would perhaps be a nice way to also manage Zorko a bit through this game. Could they just interchange off one another? With Zorko playing mid/fwd when needed, assuming they can’t interchange for one another for the entire game.
The thing is the big guys also need a break along with the smalls. They don't get much but they all add up in the end.
You have 18 players needing some sort of break shared between 4 players.
In the Demons game Ah Chee was off the ground the most being 69% TOG with Andrews the least at 96%.

I am also a noob as to how this is managed by the players and interchange Lions staff.
It would be nice to actually have an interview with a Lions staff interchange person and lay out the strategy.

Any BF posters that are playing AFL at a reasonable level would have an idea.
Maybe they can elaborate a little on BF.
I imagine it would be a much more structured plan at AFL level though.
 
I can't help but get the feeling that the Charlie suspension is not over yet. G and friends are calling for AFL appeal on the grounds of the Bacha Houli case.
I think it's done. It's not a big enough incident for the AFL to take a stand on, and their own consistency on these types of incidents this year is patchy.
 
After some good form the last couple of weeks, I am finally actually looking forward to a game again.😂
This should be a cracker, both teams in form, however all 5 of Geelongs games have been against teams in the bottom half of the ladder where ours other than North, are all in the top 8 currently.
So a little hard to judge exactly where Geelong are at. First real test for them.
If we can bring the pressure and tackling that we did against Melbourne we should win comfortably imo.
Lions by 4-6 goals.🦁
This is a good read on Lions true form:
 
The thing is the big guys also need a break along with the smalls. They don't get much but they all add up in the end.
You have 18 players needing some sort of break shared between 4 players.
In the Demons game Ah Chee was off the ground the most being 69% TOG with Andrews the least at 96%.

I am also a noob as to how this is managed by the players and interchange Lions staff.
It would be nice to actually have an interview with a Lions staff interchange person and lay out the strategy.

Any BF posters that are playing AFL at a reasonable level would have an idea.
Maybe they can elaborate a little on BF.
I imagine it would be a much more structured plan at AFL level though.
Andrews rarely gets a break. Often plays 100% TOG. Actually think he is one of the least rested players in the comp over the last 5 or 6 years. Key forwards and backs get the least bench time by a long way
 
Geelong are a scary good outfit, with weapons across the field. They have had a pretty easy start to the season, but it will still take some of our best to get this over the line. A performance like last week will get it done. Pressure will be on Payne, and our forwards to shut down a fast transition. What to do about Cameron, his tank is simply phenomenal?
We have to take all the chances we can get, accuracy will be so important. If we can force a quiet night from Hawkins while keeping Stewart out of the way, we're a good chance.

Lions by 12 in a seesaw game
 
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