Brisbane's Gabba not to be rebuilt!

[peetoo]

To be fair, an oval sport is the biggest code in Perth and Adelaide, but not in Brisbane. So building a shiny new stadium for oval sports is not the vote winner in Brisbane that it is in those cities.

Not that long ago Gabba crowds were poor

 

[kranger]

Perhaps someone should point out to the Queenslanders that the 5th Cricket Test match each summer should be taken away from them and given to Geelong who have a larger capacity cricket stadium…

 

[Aussie in exile]

Perhaps someone should point out to the Queenslanders that the 5th Cricket Test match each summer should be taken away from them and given to Geelong who have a larger capacity cricket stadium…

Or have the firs test there is any series.

 

[peetoo]

Perhaps someone should point out to the Queenslanders that the 5th Cricket Test match each summer should be taken away from them and given to Geelong who have a larger capacity cricket stadium…

Cos test crowds are getting bigger?

 

[kranger]

Because the Queenslanders seem parochial about hosting the first test cricket match of the year. For many of the NRL fanatics, the thought of them loosing the test altogether may get them to value a new oval stadium for cricket purposes rather than thinking of it as the stadium for the wrong football code.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Because the Queenslanders seem parochial about hosting the first test cricket match of the year. For many of the NRL fanatics, the thought of them loosing the test altogether may get them to value a new oval stadium for cricket purposes rather than thinking of it as the stadium for the wrong football code.

Don't hold your breath on that one.

 

[Teen Wolf]

Perhaps someone should point out to the Queenslanders that the 5th Cricket Test match each summer should be taken away from them and given to Geelong who have a larger capacity cricket stadium…

The SCG wouldn't be among the main Test grounds either, by that criteria (MCG, Accor Stadium, Optus Stadium, Marvel Stadium, and Adelaide Oval are all larger capacity venues capable of hosting international cricket)... So I'm all for it.

 

[peetoo]

Some argument that the non headline tests might now be better at more cosy venues so the diehards who still attend get a better experience

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Because the Queenslanders seem parochial about hosting the first test cricket match of the year.

I can assure you most of them don't care. Especially those who live a long way from Brisbane.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Some argument that the non headline tests might now be better at more cosy venues so the diehards who still attend get a better experience

Didn't they try this 20 years ago by playing Bangladesh in Darwin and Cairns? But they never continued it. Mind you, I've long wondered why domestic first class and one day games continue to be played in capital cities when they'd probably get some local interest if played in country towns.

 

[Walshawk]

Didn't they try this 20 years ago by playing Bangladesh in Darwin and Cairns? But they never continued it. Mind you, I've long wondered why domestic first class and one day games continue to be played in capital cities when they'd probably get some local interest if played in country towns.

Pitch quality perhaps?

 

[kranger]

Oh dear… thanks to the Lions Team Forum for having an active thread on this matter.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...o-frills-olympic-stadium-20240711-p5jsvt.html

The first image of Brisbane’s planned Olympic stadium – the smallest since Amsterdam 1928 – can now be revealed.

The photocopied image of the Queensland Sports and Athletics Centre, obtained by this masthead through the Right to Information Act, shows a single permanent covered grandstand, with most of the crowd exposed to the elements in uncovered temporary seating.

An artists’ render of QSAC in Olympics mode, designed by Populous and obtained through the Right to Information Act.CREDIT:RTI - QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT

The no-frills QSAC Olympic stadium, designed by architecture firm Populous, would hold just 40,000 spectators and be downsized to 14,000 after the Games. Populous also designed the Suncorp Stadium rebuild in the early 2000s.

QSAC was sensationally chosen as Brisbane’s main Olympic stadium in March, when the planned $2.7 billion rebuild of the Gabba was formally abandoned.

In choosing QSAC, Premier Steven Miles rejected the signature recommendation of the Olympic venues review, which he commissioned, to determine the best site for the main Brisbane 2032 stadium.

That review was led by Graham Quirk, a former Brisbane lord mayor, who recommended a new stadium be built at Victoria Park at an estimated cost of $3.4 billion.

Instead, Miles took Australian Olympic supremo John Coates’ advice and announced QSAC.

The Quirk review estimated the cost of building a mostly temporary Olympic stadium at QSAC at about $1.6 billion, but Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner said at least a further $400 million would be required to provide adequate public transport to the venue, which is a 3.1-kilometre walk from the nearest train station, Banoon.

Business leaders have continued to pressure the Miles government – and the David Crisafulli-led opposition – to reconsider their opposition to the Victoria Park proposal.

$115,000 a seat: The big cost of a small stadium for Brisbane 2032

The Miles government plans to spend $1.6 billion upgrading QSAC, but it has emerged more money will be needed for the stadium to host athletics at the Games.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

Under questioning from Deputy Opposition Leader Jarrod Bleijie on Wednesday, Grace said the $1.6 billion pricetag, which remained untested, did not include the temporary seating.

The stadium is being designed to have only 14,000 permanent seats.

“The IOC pays for the temporary seating,” Grace said, adding that the International Olympic Committee had a “significant budget” for temporary overlay at venues.

“They don’t want to leave stadiums that then need to be maintained.”

On current cost estimates, QSAC would come in at about $115,000 per seat for it’s 14,000 seats. For comparison, the 60,000-seat Optus Stadium in Perth, completed in 2017 for $1.6 billion, cost about $26,650 a seat including transport infrastructure.

 

[kranger]

Good summary of current new stadium options.

 

[WesternSydneyHawk]

$1.6 billion for temporary infrastructure at QSAC that will get torn down after the Games doesn't make sense.

Especially given the Gabba is nearing the end of its life.

It will need to be replaced. Either now, or in 10 or 15 years' time when concrete spalling is discovered in a structure that overhangs motor vehicles and pedestrians on Stanley Street.

So the choice is really simple.

Either $1.6 billion now and then the full cost of a new stadium at Victoria Park anyway in 10-to-15 years on top if it.

Or.

Just build the new stadium now at Victoria Park, saving $1.6 billion in temporary works at QSAC.

This really is a no-brainer.

Build it once, build it right, do it at Victoria Park.

 

[Aussie in exile]

I ha

$1.6 billion for temporary infrastructure at QSAC that will get torn down after the Games doesn't make sense.

Especially given the Gabba is nearing the end of its life.

It will need to be replaced. Either now, or in 10 or 15 years' time when concrete spalling is discovered in a structure that overhangs motor vehicles and pedestrians on Stanley Street.

So the choice is really simple.

Either $1.6 billion now and then the full cost of a new stadium at Victoria Park anyway in 10-to-15 years on top if it.

Or.

Just build the new stadium now at Victoria Park, saving $1.6 billion in temporary works at QSAC.

This really is a no-brainer.

Build it once, build it right, do it at Victoria Park.

I have serious doubts if the Brisbane olympics will take place and alreday this far out there seems to be be money problems

 

[Rob]

I ha

I have serious doubts if the Brisbane olympics will take place and alreday this far out there seems to be be money problems

If the Brisbane Olympics gets canned then Australia's reputation as a host of big events will be completely shot to pieces. The Comm games we can argue a one off due to one state's total incompetence but we couldn't argue it twice.

 

[Cmarsh]

I ha

I have serious doubts if the Brisbane olympics will take place and alreday this far out there seems to be be money problems

And if it does, the IOC itself will be partly to blame. They announced Brisbane as host far earlier than they normally do and without any proper prosoal for a host stadium.