Oppo Camp Brodie Grundy (Traded to Melbourne 2022)

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Have there ever been teams as bad at clearances with a ruckman so dominant in taps as Collingwood and the Dees with Grundy?

It’s almost as though he actively tries to tap it away from his own players.


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It’s unlucky for Brodie, for years we’ve been told by the Grundy lovers it’s not his fault it’s the midfields, yet still the same problem happening at one of the best midfields in the comp 🤷‍♂️
 
He really is a shadow of the player he was 4 years ago!
It’s really hard to believe this is the same guy who was tearing the comp apart pre-pandemic. He’s a shadow of what he was in 2018/19. I’ve been telling myself he’ll get back to his best eventually, but at nearly 29, he’s running out of time in the sweet area he should be peaking in…
 
This disrespectful shit has got to stop.




Soy is kind of nice. It doesn't deserve comparison to Brodie Grundy.
 
Could be a few posters admitting they were wrong....

1 tackle and 6 pressure acts is terrible. That was once his strength.
It’s the zero marks for me.
It’s really hard to believe this is the same guy who was tearing the comp apart pre-pandemic. He’s a shadow of what he was in 2018/19. I’ve been telling myself he’ll get back to his best eventually, but at nearly 29, he’s running out of time in the sweet area he should be peaking in…
I think the lesson I’m beginning to take from his career is that he’s a player of the congestion era. Repeat stoppages in one pocket of the ground padded his hitout, tackle, clearance and contested possession numbers plus hid his inability to get up and down the field. In the fast forward era he’s too gassed to impact which has hurt his ability to work over opponents and be efficient ball in hand.

I was certain he wouldn’t get there sharing the ruck duties with Gawn, but what I missed was that Gawn’s awesomeness was going to mask deficiencies in Grundy’s game. I think his numbers will spike during winter, but unless he does the impossible and elevates his marking game it’s going to be a long 5 years for Dees fans.
 

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Looks awesome, designer vibe, feted in magazines, faux instagram philosopher but underneath kind of vapid, and while competent at his role, has a flaw which means he cannot execute a basic skill fundamental to his job.


Holy shit, Brodie Grundy is

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Can he learn how to turn left mark?
 
Criticizing a player from an opposition club is not hatred. It is pointing out the flaws Brodie has had for a long time. You don't have to agree.
He’s not just a player from another club though.
He’s a dual Copeland trophy winner who we are still paying.

I doubt anyone has an issue with pointing out his deficiencies as a player. It’s the childish name calling that has become so boring. Driven by ‘he who shall not be named.’
 
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Agree with others here. His issues at our club over the last few years were that he had no real aerial presence.
‘The zero marks last night is not an outlier for him. The big win the Dees had last week masked over the fact he only had one mark last week as well.
2 games gone with one mark for the year thus far. This means he just isn’t dangerous if they rest him forward & he is a poor target option when his team are trying to clear their defensive 50. Padding his stats with hit outs that don’t give his team first use of the football doesn’t make up for his obvious weaknesses in his game. List management made a good call. However I still wish him well & have no malice towards him.
 
It’s the zero marks for me.

I think the lesson I’m beginning to take from his career is that he’s a player of the congestion era. Repeat stoppages in one pocket of the ground padded his hitout, tackle, clearance and contested possession numbers plus hid his inability to get up and down the field. In the fast forward era he’s too gassed to impact which has hurt his ability to work over opponents and be efficient ball in hand.






This is exactly why it was such a bad idea to sign any ruckman to a long term contract. No position evolves as quickly and frequently as ruck. At the time, I was worried that the league may bring back the 3rd man up in the ruck as that would have made him irrelevant but the game style now in fashion has done the same. No contested marking ability, single paced. Great competitor but the game has moved away from one suited to his talents.
 
How many marks, does Grundy even contest per game? As I said maybe 2 seasons ago he gets caught between the arcs. Maybe that's by design but I don't think that helps his game.

Big responsibility now with Gawn being injured. He has elite midfielders at his feet now. So if clearance numbers are poor then the questions will be of him.

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I loved Brodes at the Pies, but looking at him now, through opposition eyes, not the eyes of a Collingwood member, you can see the deficiencies in his game more glaringly, and you can fully understand the want to remove his contract of our books.
You cannot justify paying the amount of money we were to Grundy, when his form of 4 to 5 years ago, looks to have well and truly passed him.
Watching last night, for a big man to have taken 0 marks in the whole game, is striking. I think that's 1 mark in two games now. Also he had 45 hitouts, yet Melbourne lost the clearances by 28, the centre clearances by 10. This still shows he has issues with his tap work, and feeding his midfielders. With Petracca, Oliver, Viney etc, they should be feasting if the ruckman is getting 45 hitouts.
Loved everything Brodes did at the Pies, the Copelands, the AA, finals matches etc, but the club has been absolutely correct in moving Brodie on, as they could obviously read the writing on the wall.
 
pz5151 I’m almost there with you, but I think there are outliers in regards to long term deals on ruckman. There’s only two right now I’d offer 5 years and they’re Draper because his mobility and aggression will carry him through and Jackson again because of his mobility (Fremantle was just the wrong club…). Prohibiting the 3rd man up was the perfect rule at the perfect time to allow Grundy to develop and it was another one that fed that congestion style.

FWIW there’s no malice toward Grundy because unlike Treloar he handled himself perfectly and it’s not entirely his fault he received the stupid contract. My posts are more about defending the current FD for their correct decision to offload him. Also for further context on Jackson. Sign a 2 year deal at the Dees where you’re second fiddle to a 32-33yo Gawn then go to WC at the end of their rebuild as the main man. Moving to Fremantle on big money to play second fiddle to Darcy was dumb.
 
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