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When it comes to sexual harassment one accusation is enough. Do you only take it serious if there’s 4 or 5 or 6 accusations? Secondly why was it withdrawn?
The sh*t that he put Treloar through I have zero sympathy for the guy
When was it withdrawn? Freo reportedly paid her out $100,000.First of all, that was an accusation by one individual. And said accusation was withdrawn.
And to be honest, how long as Lyon been in the system for? And one person comes forward with an accusation and we do not take into consideration a person's vast track record?
If we ran the world exclusively on accusations and assumed the worst for all of them, then this world would have been thrown in chaos a long time ago.
100k is a lot of money. People make mistakes I’ll fully agree with that but you do not put someone in charge of an organisation after that type of issue.Yeah, nah. I base my thoughts on evidence, thorough investigations and consistency.
To allow the public assassination of someone and their entire livelihoods and disregard their entire life history based on the word of a single individual - and then also assume the worst scenario - is a recipe for disaster and potential ammunition by a lot of people with ulterior motives - which there has been proven to be. This goes for both men, and women.
And why was it withdrawn? Who knows. But when people usually bring up accusations like that, you expect the matter to be transferred to the police so that it can be thoroughly investigated and evidence and people can be cross-examined, as to which case it wasn't. It was withdrawn entirely - for one to speculate it as being someone who did not want to be thoroughly examined, or someone who maybe lied but didn't want to be subjected to a criminal charge of lying under oath, those would all be speculations - and as such - accusations therein.
However that is a topic for another thread. Fact of the matter is - your chaos way of thinking is not the norm and I am quite happy it isn't - as any one of us can be privy to such life-destroying chaos regardless of gender or race.
If he’s smart he should just walk. Make the announcement now and state he’ll see out the year to orchestrate a smooth handover. He’ll enjoy a massive credibility boost. Then take a year off, take the new missus to Noosa for a while, with a bit of side work in the Ch 7 commentary box which he’ll get paid well for. A bit of good press from coaching the boys auskick teams.
In 12 months time another club will come calling if he wants to get back into it, and more than likely they’ll be closer to a flag than the pies.
Agree. The club imo needs to move on from the McGuire era in a better way than how Carlton moved on from the Elliot era & Richmond moving on from the Graeme Richmond era. Full clean out. New start , new coach, new captain. It’s 2021 not 1986. The game has changed dramatically from the head honcho walking the corridors barking orders. The Richmond football club is a very good example of this.Pendles will certainly relinquish Captaincy to Darcy Moore now.
Can they get any more defensive? The Pies don't go for newcomers to coaching or people that don't have a high profile. Is Mark Williams not an option?Wow. Picking Ross Lyon would be a mistake. I can't see Collingwood adopting a Ross Lyon style of defensive football.
Just from a timing standpoint, could this not have waited a week so that it didn't take the focus off of the Big Freeze?
Now, this week is going to be about Nathan rather than Neale.
AdamsPendles will certainly relinquish Captaincy to Darcy Moore now.
Lies. Terry set him up with killer drafting.Buckley inherited a grand final team, Hardwick started with ashes.
Wont be a distraction, if anythings adds. Right time to resign, had a nice win last weekend. Wait another week and have a big loss to the Dees - would look very much like he was pushed.Just from a timing standpoint, could this not have waited a week so that it didn't take the focus off of the Big Freeze?
Now, this week is going to be about Nathan rather than Neale.
Go look at the scores/margins St Kilda put up over 08-10 and you will see the "Ross Lyon = Ultra defensive" theory is patently false. Same with Freos peak.
When he had the players his style lead to some pretty great wins.
For whatever reason the players just couldn't execute in Grand Finals.
If the Pies (or Blues) buy in to what he is selling then they could get a few pretty good years out of both lists. Carlton in a better position to strike.
Not a long term sustainable style though so give him 6 years - 2 to train it, 2 to build on it, 2 to launch for a flag - Then move on.
He had a price on his head since the day he took over. This is pressure driven, not win loss. If you're going to choose to ignore that and be dopey then that's your problem. This year's win loss record is nothing but another BS excuse like there are excuses for every other issue in the game. He's copped it for years.
The problem is society, including 99% of this forum have this superiority complex where they need to disagree with absolutely everything in the world.
Damien Hardwick.
Oh and you forgot the part about making a grand final. And you also forgot the part that only 1 team can win it in a given year. So with that logic most coaches would be sacked.
Watch what the coverage is all about for the next few daysIncredibly long bow to draw. They are 2 completely separate things.