One reason is because when you say "the Australian game" you are implying that other brands of football are somehow "unAustralian" or "not the Australian game".
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One reason is because when you say "the Australian game" you are implying that other brands of football are somehow "unAustralian" or "not the Australian game".
jackmac7
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i've noticed Serie-A's Crowds have dropped dramatically to something like 19,000.
And how long can fans of england clubs other than the big 4 continue going through the motions every year of watching the same 4 teams win every year. BORING.
Historically, factually and spiritually the Australian game is the one the AFL governs. Don't like it? Tough luck.
Claiming ownership of a game, in this case the English-invented rugby union and rugby league -- like the majority of Qlders and NSWers like to do -- does not dissolve the fact that it is an English invention.
Nothing "unAustralian" about pointing out these facts at all.
It is the code that officially calls itself Australian Football and the League is about to launch a history book of the game called "The Australian Game of Football". No other code does that. No one would dispute the Americans for calling their indigeneous game the American game or "American Football".
I hope the book is a sign that the League will more market itself as the Australian Game; it's worked for soccer as "the World Game". If other codes (derived from England) don't like it, that is bad luck. It is our invention and our only unique major contribution to this planet's rich tapestry of sports.
I hope the book is a sign that the League will more market itself as the Australian Game; it's worked for soccer as "the World Game". If other codes (derived from England) don't like it, that is bad luck. It is our invention and our only unique major contribution to this planet's rich tapestry of sports.
I don't what know your point is. It's unreasonable in the extreme to expect all 6 billion plus individuals that inhabit this planet to be equally passionate about soccer. But it doesn't negate the fact that it's by far and away the most watched, important and Greatest Show On Earth bar none and yes that includes the Olympics which the World Cup dwarfs it by a significant margin. If you want true world recognition and standing then winning the World Cup would be the best way to go about it.
I would say that at least 50% (30% of the world population according to your figures) of asia is as passionate about soccer as others are around the world. The other half to varying degrees but soccer would still be among the top 3 sports in those nations. All in all soccer has no peers when it comes to international appeal, IT IS THE ONLY SPORT THAT CAN TRULY CLAIM TO BE A WORLD SPORT.
Which explain why it's a waste of resources. Your first event would be lucky to happen once a year (and given there are 6 such games in the whole NRL and 16 clubs, it would average 1 per 2.66 years). Your second event would only happen once every 8 (soon to be 10) years, and the 3rd is about a 1 in 1000 chance of happening.
It's pretty bloody obvious that they need a 40k stadium like Perth needs a 120k stadium. Sure it'd be nice, but it'd hardly ever get filled.
The only sport that can be called a world sport?
Tennis anyone? Perhaps Athletics, gymnastics and basketball?
What is this world domination thing with soccer?
Motor racing has a few fans around the world as well.
vinnie
Team Captain
Let's all chill out. If you want to continue go have a spelling bee offline.
it's a great day. Great future ahead for the great game of world football.
Read the headlines:
Hosting World Cup worth billions to Australia
By Tom Smithies
February 29, 2008 12:00am
THE full magnitude of what hosting the 2018 World Cup could bring to Australia can be revealed today as a government report highlights the billions of dollars of economic benefits.
Just days after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd pledged his Government's backing, the report revealed the financial boost Japan and Korea enjoyed after hosting the 2002 World Cup - a staggering $27 billion.
And one for the regional cities of this geat country:
Proposed funding would lift facilities to international class
By Teo Pellizzeri
A synthetic pitch and an international standard training facility are two projects Shepparton's soccer community could receive as part of a major funding upgrade....
Rural areas such as Shepparton, Geelong, Bendigo, Ballarat and Gippsland would be part of the proposed upgrade. ...
The World Cup is GOOD.
So who are the clowns that don't want the world cup??? Speak up and show yourself now you unhelpful, unAustralian swine.
it's a great day. Great future ahead for the great game of world football.
Read the headlines:
Hosting World Cup worth billions to Australia
By Tom Smithies
February 29, 2008 12:00am
THE full magnitude of what hosting the 2018 World Cup could bring to Australia can be revealed today as a government report highlights the billions of dollars of economic benefits.
Just days after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd pledged his Government's backing, the report revealed the financial boost Japan and Korea enjoyed after hosting the 2002 World Cup - a staggering $27 billion.
And one for the regional cities of this geat country:
Proposed funding would lift facilities to international class
By Teo Pellizzeri
A synthetic pitch and an international standard training facility are two projects Shepparton's soccer community could receive as part of a major funding upgrade....
Rural areas such as Shepparton, Geelong, Bendigo, Ballarat and Gippsland would be part of the proposed upgrade. ...
The World Cup is GOOD.
So who are the clowns that don't want the world cup??? Speak up and show yourself now you unhelpful, unAustralian swine.
Yeah, and America can let a Canadian baseball team join their league and suddenly it is "the world series". Global domination is a useful marketing trick, even if it has no basis in reality. Some people are easily fooled.
I find it strange that if a world cup can bring $27 billion to a country, Brazil was the only bidder for the 2014 world cup. Even if some informal deal was made to give it to South America, why did not other South American countries bid?
Sounds like the federal government is trying to justify giving all this money to soccer in the face of public criticism about what it is doing.
I am against government intereference in industries. Government funding is messing with the natural balance of the sporting market.
It particularly bothers me with soccer because so many of the clubs are privately owned. It bothers me a little with rugby league because the competition is half privately owned and many of the clubs are privately owned. I don't really like rugby union, but government aid for the code wouldn't bother me so much because it is not privately owned. Likewise, football is community owned. Even so, I'm not keen on the government giving it any money.
It also bothers me because all this money is spent on upgrading these stadiums that rugby league and soccer will never use or never fill. Admitedly, soccer is now using some of those stadiums that were built for rugby league so the damage isn't so bad, but it is only a matter of time before Australian soccer goes the way of South American soccer and the stadiums will become white elephants.
Which stadiums are these exactly?
On your logic mate, a 100,000 capacity of the MCG is unjustified because it's only anywhere near full 3 or 4 times max per year.
In the Americas its only in Canada & US that soccer isn't No.1?
Have you been to Venezuela? Cuba? Dominican Republic? Have you heard of something called baseball?
Kicks Soccer's arse all over the floor in these places, and venture a little east, to the West Indies, and you might want to tell the locals that cricket and basketball are marginal sports in these countries!
What crap!
Check your facts before you spout off falsehoods!
vinnie
Team Captain
Are you happier that the Vic State Government spends $38 million on the Grand Prix instead? That runs for 3 days, in only one city. and has bugger all benefit.
Soccer $30million world cup cost is spread among all states (let's assume its $4.2mln per state), lasts 2 weeks and may have a little more benefit you'd reckon.
$30 million for about 8 new stadiums you reckon?
You and your mates going to whack together a few bits of chipboard from Bunnings on the cheap?
The recently-scrapped rotation policy was in place during the 2014 bidding process, meaning only South American countries were eligible to apply. Columbia also expressed interest, but was discouraged late in the piece by the South American confederation. Out of the rest of the continent, probably only Argentina possesses the necessary resources to host an event as big as what the World Cup is nowadays.
As for all the discussion about soccer's popularity in Asia, fact is it is still the continent's most popular sport even if it isn't the most popular sport in every country. It leaves the competition for dead in the Middle East and South East Asia (Phillipines aside), and, depending on the country, is number one or two in East Asia, (China, Japan, South Korea etc).
Even on the sub-continent it is still widely played - if they're not picking up a cricket bat in Mumbai or Columbo, chances are they're kicking a soccer ball instead (India/Pakistan's glorious hockey history is unfortunately an incresingly distant memory)
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World Game > Pissy Convict game down under
jackmac7
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What are all the other A-league players on?
60,000 a year on average?
$1.4m for a 32 year old ageing socceroo hack with bad knees who was playing 2nd division in spain. What a waste of money.
jackmac7
Club Legend
What's the point of having these markee players when only one club can afford the wod. Who's perth Glory's markee player, some suburban hack?
The A-league are desperate to get rid of the salary cap to get better players but doing so would bleed the weaker teams and Melbourne and Sydney would play in the GF every year. So they'll have to do with the same old shit players for now.
The A-league are desperate to get rid of the salary cap to get better players but doing so would bleed the weaker teams and Melbourne and Sydney would play in the GF every year. So they'll have to do with the same old shit players for now.
What's the point of having these markee players when only one club can afford the wod. Who's perth Glory's markee player, some suburban hack?
The A-league are desperate to get rid of the salary cap to get better players but doing so would bleed the weaker teams and Melbourne and Sydney would play in the GF every year. So they'll have to do with the same old shit players for now.
Although the salary cap is good for the NRL and AFL, I actually think soccer would be better off without it. It would allow Sydney and Melbourne to dominate every year, and perhaps have some of this markee players. Soccer especially seems to need them. Also, a lot of soccer fans around the world from loser teams don't actually care that much about winning. For them, holding a glamour team to a draw is very satisfying for them. Also, its possible in soccer because ability is not always reflected on the scoreboard. All they really need is hope that they can win, and in soccer that hope is always there.
That said, a big part of soccer's strategy in Australia seems to be to undermine rugby league in regional areas, so it probably does need this salary cap to achieve that objective.
A breakdown of Aloisi’s $1.4 million annual salary would probably be
$500,000 for his skill in front of goal
$400,000 for the continuing marketing potential of his goal against Uruguay
$500,000 for the marketing potential of his good looks.
As the clubs come of age, they will start to onsell players to other leagues. The recent sale of Queensland Roar's Brazilian Reinaldo to the Korean club Pusan for almost a million dollars is a sign of things to come.
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