Captaincy / Leadership group

[LIONS08]

They reiterated the contents of both the Lions and Dees statements, they simply reaffirmed the agreed outcome and public position of both clubs.

Zorko has come out and completely attempted to change the narrative, and reignite debate on the issue about provocation and his liability.

I don’t see how those players speaking justifies his response.

I don’t take it that way what so ever. You clearly have your mind made up as do I…. We are just wasting time here

 

[Section 5]

As aposed to Zorko is a big scary angry monster that some seem to think he is. Petty was happy with the outcome with Zorko and can hardly blame him with the way he reacted.

I have not noticed any poster stating Zorko is a "monster"
How do you know Petty was happy with the outcome. They shook hands that is all. Better than thumping the guy
We all know Zorko likes to shake hands

It is your inference that Petty is a sook that is very annoying
I assume players that break down every year after loosing a grand Final are all sooks in your mind

 

[Elixuh]

People should just listen to the SEN interview and not read any further media commentary on this. The interview was fine.

Some people are also going to have to take a more balanced and nuanced approach. A couple of points:

• Zorko has acknowledged that he made a mistake and apologised.
• Zorko wasn't making excuses for his remark, he provided context given the over the top media coverage - he still copped the mistake and owned it.
• What Zorko said is consistent with what people in the media have been saying (ie that the Melbourne boys had thrown a number of ordinary sledges which objectively probably crossed the line as well).
• We don't want this bleeding into next week. If he doesn't speak now then it'll just get raised in the lead up to the final.
• I am happy to be corrected but Zorko would not have done any media without the club's approval.

I think we all need to move on, there is really nothing left to say.

 

[Lockie]

I just listened to the interview. I’m am and was not a fan of Zorko before this and Im very annoyed about what he did in Thursday night, but I thought he came across ok. He specifically mentioned on numerous occasions his remorse, his wanting to learn from this and the embarrassment he had caused the club, his family etc but also that that was nothing in comparison to what Harris family felt/was feeling. Andy Maher probed him as to what the Melbourne players might have done in regards to their sledging and he didn’t get drawn into it. I really don’t know what else people want him to do - there has been constant press about this in Melbourne - 360 fox show asked Hawkins and Riewoldt about it and the later went on about it - it’s written about in the Melbourne papers, on talk back etc so I feel as though Zorko did need to come out and saying something. Zorko has obviously learnt from this and wants to be a better person and leader and has apologised profusely. While that doesn‘t excuse his behaviour - at least he sounded sincere in regards to making amends. Isnt that we want people to do when they make a mistake - take ownership, apologise and learn from it?

 

[CarterS]

Re Captaincy I'd consider Jarrod Berry

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89kg

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17.4

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3.9

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4.2

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2.7

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17.0

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9.4

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7.6

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3.6

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5.1

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2.9

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10.6

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next year for captain and or put Bailey in the leadership group.

 

[lioninthesand]

I don’t take it that way what so ever. You clearly have your mind made up as do I…. We are just wasting time here

I Don’t see it as a wasting time, it’s just a discussion regarding the biggest issue our club has faced in 5 years. Happy to discontinue the line or debate though, we will probably go around in circles as you’ve said

 

[BRAB]

Definitely. He should have had his say. The main points...

Acknowledged he crossed the line.

“I apologised to Harrison on the final siren and obviously that apology still stands. My remorse still stands. If I could take it back, there’s no doubt I would."

"Harrison accepted my apology straight after the game and said to me that during the heat of the battle things are said."

In response to a question from Andrew Gaze whether any comments that were said to Zorko crossed the line, Zorko replied:

"Potentially. But for me personally I need to acknowledge that what I said crossed the line. Through the heat of battle words are said and for me, in this case, I overstepped the mark. Moving forward I need to learn from this and potentially the whole industry can learn from this and understand that sledging can have serious effects on people and we need to be extremely careful in the way we do it.”

Also said that he has "extremely long conversations with our senior adminstration at the club. They've heard both sides of the story. It should be knowm that I take my role as captain extremely seriously and have ever since I took over five years ago."

"I just reckon it’s really important that Lions fans and fans in general understand that it wasn’t just an unprovoked sledge, and it wasn’t said in isolation ... it was to-ing and fro-ing for the majority of the game and remorsefully I accept that I’ve overstepped the mark."

"From my understanding the AFL was understanding of what had happened throughout the match and were happy to let it go as well."

Regarding his team-mates' reaction...

"The boys were super supportive, the club was super supportive and understood that things were said throughout the game and I had crossed the line."

I love how this is what the media run with from that interview

 

[Elixuh]

I love how this is what the media run with from that interview

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Yeah, so this is why people need to stop listening to media commentary and just listen to the interview. These fox journos are being paid minimum wage to clickbait you.

 

[Squizz89]

I know a lot has been said about Zorko continuing or not with the captaincy next year, but does his form/struggles with his body even warrant a contract extension let alone the captaincy?

 

[M Malice]

I can recall a highly personal incident from Zorkos past that if sledged about would be a very deep cut for him, could be a possibility that was used. If Zorko would have cried first maybe the shoe would be on the other foot.

 

[Roylion]

I know a lot has been said about Zorko continuing or not with the captaincy next year, but does his form/struggles with his body even warrant a contract extension let alone the captaincy?

Whether that is the case or not is completely seperate to the Petty issue.

 

[M Malice]

I know a lot has been said about Zorko continuing or not with the captaincy next year, but does his form/struggles with his body even warrant a contract extension let alone the captaincy?

Regarding his form and possible contract extension I agree, wait till our season is done and unless Zorks body is the condition to do a very good pre season I think it should be definitely a subject for discussion.

Is it strange that this late in the season he has still not been offered a contract extension?

 

[Squizz89]

Whether that is the case or not is completely seperate to the Petty issue.

Yep entirely seperate issue. But this thread was started in relation to the captaincy and leadership group. All this Petty stuff aside, it’s something that will need to be considered at some point and if he’s not offered a new contract well then obviously we’re looking at a new captain anyway.

 

[M Malice]

I love how this is what the media run with from that interview

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That's unlike the media.

 

[Zacs_Magic_Tooth]

I love how this is what the media run with from that interview

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God that’s pathetic

 

[Dalions]

We need to be tough. Genuinely tough.

Tough at the ball. Going in for it an not being afraid to get hurt.

Tough at opposition players in laying tackles. Hurting them (legally) when we can. Making them worry about getting caught. Having the whole team with this attitude, including the forward line.

Sounds like Dev

 

[LIONS08]

 

[CarterS]

Robbo strongly defending Zorko on 360

Brisbane captain says vile sledge ‘wasn’t unprovoked’ in ‘classy’ call as Dees’ attacks on him revealed

‘Classy’ Brisbane captain says vile sledge ‘wasn’t unprovoked’ as Dees’ attacks on him revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[martinson]

Robbo strongly defending Zorko on 360

Brisbane captain says vile sledge ‘wasn’t unprovoked’ in ‘classy’ call as Dees’ attacks on him revealed

‘Classy’ Brisbane captain says vile sledge ‘wasn’t unprovoked’ as Dees’ attacks on him revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

Zorko's been served up with some revolting stuff on the field particularly in the latter part of his career.

He's accepted it's part of the game.

People on here getting stuck into him because of one thing he said pretending it's the end of the world don't know jack.

Just sayin'.

 

[JasRulz63]

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I've read a few Melbourne supporters mention that Petty especially doesn't mind a bit of lip. Obviously not blaming him for the situation, but I don't buy for a second that it was a one way discussion, with Zorko eventually crossing the line.

 

[Lace Out]

Pretty clear why MFC wanted it shut down straight away.Any forensic analysis of the to and fro would reveal their players’ vulgar/disrespect to women comments

 

[martinson]

Zorko's been served up with some revolting stuff on the field particularly in the latter part of his career.

He's accepted it's part of the game.

People on here getting stuck into him because of one thing he said pretending it's the end of the world don't know jack.

Just sayin'.

If it comes out what was said to Zorko on multiple occasions there might be a few red faces on here.

But he left it alone . He shouldn't have done this interview because it was hard to think he couldn't help himself. But he did and to see people pile into him again is a bit more than I'm willing to take.

 

[Ceebee]

So what about max gawn and petracca making comments in the media the last few days… they have forced zorks to have his say in

If it comes out what was said to Zorko on multiple occasions there might be a few red faces on here.

But he left it alone . He shouldn't have done this interview because it was hard to think he couldn't help himself. But he did and to see people pile into him again is a bit more than I'm willing to take.

There are always two sides to a story .Now if the media will allow it,let the Finals begin .

 

[timbo_93]

Surely Zorko can’t be captain again next year after his antics over the last few years. He is an embarrassment to our football club.

It’s almost iconic that when were flying against the Dees in the game last year in June that Zorko gave away an undisciplined free kick that turned the tide and we lost that game. It feels like that was a turning point where we have never looked the same. We have never played that well since.

It’s not a recent thing with Zorko. As one poster on the main board said when Zorko was stoushing with Touk Miller it was unclear who was the instigator.

But it’s abundantly clear now it was Zorko. Miller on the other hand has gone on in leaps and bounds to be one of the best mids in the game.

Who is in the leadership group currently? And how come they are not standing up in key games and leading by example. Ever since Hodge left we have been bereft of onfield leadership. Will we have the chance to have a new captain next year?

I've put my two cents into an article: The favourites to replace Zorko as Brisbane captain

Article was intended as an exploration of Zorko's captaincy but the Roar editors renamed it to make it about who will succeed him (which I cover in the last part of it).

I don't understand the hatred towards Harris Andrews. He's not perfect (neither is anyone) but he's been part of the leadership group for 5 years and Vice Captain for 4 years. He's been integral to our success so he seems like the logical candidate. The only other likely candidate is Lachie Neale if the club decides to repay him for his loyalty in re-signing.

 

[martinson]

There are always two sides to a story .Now if the media will allow it,let the Finals begin .

When it was reported here that Zorks had gone on SEN I just buried my head in my hands hoping he deflected everything.

On listening again he's drawn a line in the sand whilst copping the blame and expressing remorse.

He didn't get drawn into specifics about what actually occurred and allowed the present narrative to remain intact which I doubt Melbourne will want to breach.

And hopefully that's the end of the matter. So overall I'm surprised at how well he handled it.