Captaincy / Leadership group

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irel said:
If anything 2022 season has shown us we don't have enough players in the leadership group. I think we need another eight.
We will be unbeatable with all these leaders leading us to a premiership.

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I look at all these players and just aren't impressed anymore after this season. Zorko clearly isn't an onfield leader anymore. Rich is too quiet, Lester isn't in the best 22. Andrews gets angry and yells at teammates, McCarthy and McCluggage appear to just focus on their game rather than helping others (based on nothing but watching the game through TV). Gardiner is selfless but injury and niggling injuries hasn't helped and he probably just needs to focus on his own health atm. Neale is good but he is 1 player. They have leadership meetings don't they, so they know what to do, l just don't think it comes naturally to many of them.
 
irel said:
If anything 2022 season has shown us we don't have enough players in the leadership group. I think we need another eight.
We will be unbeatable with all these leaders leading us to a premiership.

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So from that group it could only realistically be Harris, Hugh or Choc.
 
There should be a leader/general/organiser for each: defenders, mids and forwards. (1 leader per position category).

That leader should work closely with their line coach and have a thorough understanding of what it is that they’re trying to achieve. Their line coach should work closely with the head coach who should work closely with a tactician who is football obsessed and studies other teams structures, key players, stats, etc…

Each player should be well aware of who their leader is.

Who would be defensive leader?

Starcevich

Who would be midfield leader?

Either Neale (unsure if leadership is best idea - he might be the sort of player that benefits from focusing on his own game (could be wrong), or a big bodied ball winning mid (traded in - set standards and ruffle feathers by putting him in charge). If ashcroft turns out to be as good as people think he will be he could be a good leader in future.

Who would be forwards leader?

No one sticks out but could be beneficial to give Daniher more responsibility. One of his weaknesses - and oftentimes strengths - is his unorthodox approach. Might be beneficial to give him tangible responsibility that may lessen the flopping and odd behaviours that don’t contribute well to team structure.

I’m just throwing names around and could be dead wrong.

I also think that some players - like Harris - could benefit from someone else in their part of the field being the “leader” might take a bit of psychological weight off their shoulders and help them play more freely.

There are no bad teams there are only bad leaders.

The Melbourne game had a clear lack of leadership with no one rising to the occasion. Having accountable leaders throughout the field would ideally minimise the looking at the other bloke to get it done factor.

On a side note I thought it was good leadership on Petracca’s part removing team mates from various altercations throughout the night. He looked to be reminding them to get back into position and focus on the game.
 

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Johnny Bananas said:
I've said for a while that Zorko needs to go as captain. Now, that's not enough for me. He's the festering haemorrhoid on this arse of a season. He needs to booted out of the club ASAP before his poisonous attitude infects anyone else.
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There would have to be some players unhappy with him after what he brought up in his sledge. He has to be replaced as captain this week. How they regroup after the loss and the internal termoil surruonding the sledge, i dont know.

It will be a coaching masterpiece to select the right captain, bond and motivate the group, and win the next game.

How do you recon the crowd reacts to Zorko this week?
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Zorko should have played his last game. The club should not offer him a contract next year. Robertson is a better footballer and he should replace him in the Elimination Final. As far as leadership goes, you can take your pick from our list if you want to find someone with better moral standing.

Simply put and as a statement of fact, if we offer Zorko another year, I will not renew my long standing Victorian Family Membership. I’ll rejoin when he isn’t on our list.
 
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REVEALED: The details of Dayne Zorko's vile insult to Harrison Petty
 
Zorko should step down as captain immediately in my opinion. I could see Neale taking over the captaincy for a year or two until one of Dev/Ashcroft/Starc could develop further and take over the role. All seem like great potential for the role
 
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REVEALED: The details of Dayne Zorko's vile insult to Harrison Petty
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Someone said over the weekend that the Lions were everyones second team for a while there (whatever that means) but this year we've become completely on the nose and I reckon a big part of it is Zorko. The guy is a disagrace with no morals or ethics and then the clubs piss poor statement rubs further salt in the wound particulalry when you know it will endorse Zorko playing him next week and next year.
 

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Tom14 said:
My only caution is that Daily Mail Australia is about as low as it gets in terms of muck-racking and disgusting conduct in this country. Having said that, entirely believable that he would say something like this.
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Zork's always been a hot head, I feel like it's be a long, slow build ey
 
vic_LION said:
Zork's always been a hot head, I feel like it's be a long, slow build ey
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Quite the trio of captains in Rockliff, Beams and Zorko - what you'd give for a normal clean-cut, upstanding team first, lead from the front captain. The last 3 e been anything but and it is suprising thst they keep getting voted in.
 
theres far shittier people than dayne zorko who have played, are currently playing or will play afl

i can handle him playing another year but his captaincy should be over
 
I’m a bit flummoxed by those saying that Neale shouldn’t be captain because he comes across as an individual/seems to be about himself/knows his stats etc. Here is an individual who payed out of his own pocket to work with individuals to better his game. He has also openly stated that he needed to work on his defensive run which I feel he has. On the other hand you have Dorko and I’ve stated for the last couple of years he isn’t captain material. I know who I would respect and want to play for if I was playing with them.
 
jjami15 said:
I’m a bit flummoxed by those saying that Neale shouldn’t be captain because he comes across as an individual/seems to be about himself/knows his stats etc. Here is an individual who payed out of his own pocket to work with individuals to better his game. He has also openly stated that he needed to work on his defensive run which I feel he has. On the other hand you have Dorko and I’ve stated for the last couple of years he isn’t captain material. I know who I would respect and want to play for if I was playing with them.
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I also see an argument that Neale's game is already so well developed, whereas some of the other picks, you'd want them still be be focusing on improving their role first and foremost, such as Mcluggage, Starc, Andrews
 
Not so much the behind the scenes stuff (important though it is) and the media skills (ditto) ... of the players we have now what is the short list of men who have demonstrated by their actions that they can do things on the field (seniors or ressies) that inspire their team mates to stand taller, go one more time, leave nothing on the field etc?
 

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