Coach Carlton and Michael Voss - where to now

[BigVic]

Won games against North Melbourne (17th) and West Coast (16th) last season after their bye. Scraped into the Finals before conceding 60 points in the first half of the EF then lost to Richmond in the season opener.

Where does Michael Voss go at Carlton after an embarrassing start to the season

 

[Chief]

Tumultuous off-season? Did I miss something?

 

[MisterMarcus]

 

[Cmarsh]

Only round 1 isn't it?

 

[Milanista28]

Slow meat grinder type of midfield that lacks class, the Jagga injury hurt a lot. They should trade Walsh or Cerra.

 

[Cyclops]

Tumultuous off-season? Did I miss something?

I think we restart the season in round 2.

Footy in March? UnAustralian.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Cripps to ruck was a winning move

 

[HTPunter]

He is rubbish as a plan B coach. Have said it multiple times. He has a decent plan A, and he has the star power to cover up any deficiencies in the plan A.

The moment the other team gets momentum, he has no idea on how to swing it back if Cripps/Charlie/McKay/Weitering don’t win it back.

The amount of run ons Carlton have faced and thrown games away…

Think EF 2024, PF 2023, last night, rounds 11/21/23 last year, heaps more I can’t be bothered looking back up but I have noted before.

Carlton fans have been way too focused on injuries before to look deeply at the coaching flaws. Curnow will be back but Newman won’t this year, and no injuries should make up for the gap in age, experience & class that they had anyway (not to mention Balta, Prestia etc).

Surely now they wake up that Voss can’t coach a slogger team when it’s a needed. When they were 3 goals up a good coach would have coached it into a slugfest in their forward half - instead Richmond were able to find free men everywhere.

 

[DidakDelight]

Clearly rates himself Vossy!
Enough to go on a promotional tour to the UK.

Tottenham and Carlton two clubs that haven’t won squat in over three decades having a meeting of the minds.

 

[demondavey]

Slow meat grinder type of midfield that lacks class, the Jagga injury hurt a lot. They should trade Walsh or Cerra.

How did it hurt? He has never played an AFL game

 

[Milanista28]

How did it hurt? He has never played an AFL game

He's completely different to their other midfielders. We've seen kids come in and impact instantly for years now, I expected him to do similar.

 

[Walter H White]

Voss is a problem but their team is just not that good.

They are overly reliant on Weitering in the backline. Mids can run hot and cold and still leave too much to Cripps after all these years. They have a great key forward in Curnow and a frustrating one in McKay. They have a horrific small forward line which would not be exaggerating to say is bottom 4 in the comp.

In saying that, when they thrashed Geelong in mid last year, I thought they would challenge Sydney for the premiership. Don't know what had happened since then to fall off so calamitously but they do seem to do this (go on runs of brilliant form and terrible form with not much in between).

 

[nut]

He's completely different to their other midfielders. We've seen kids come in and impact instantly for years now, I expected him to do similar.

Agree

 

[masai tu]

Have one very good defender, one ok defender and the rest of their defensive team is mewwwwwww.

Dollar for dollar, McKay is very very ordinary. Yes he is big, but his footy brain is lacking.

The team looked very scared in the second half. Team devoid of confidence, waiting for others to do the hard work.

 

[PP34]

Should be sacked but the club is spineless.

Should take the list manager with him.

 

[apollo_creed]

Slow meat grinder type of midfield that lacks class, the Jagga injury hurt a lot. They should trade Walsh or Cerra.

was funny in the clutch last night with the game on the line that Walsh marked the ball and had two runners to hand off to and kick inside 50.. he said to himself nah... they need me to kick it in... 5 seconds later, terrible kick and turnover.
perfectly epitomised his ability on the ball and evidenced a guy who doesn't respect his own limitations.

 

[BigVic]

They have fallen off since the mid-season bye

Voss isn't a good coach at all but the club wants to keep him.

 

[Mofra]

Cripps to ruck was a winning move

Bevo fails to see the problem

 

[Mofra]

was funny in the clutch last night with the game on the line that Walsh marked the ball and had two runners to hand off to and kick inside 50.. he said to himself nah... they need me to kick it in... 5 seconds later, terrible kick and turnover.
perfectly epitomised his ability on the ball and evidenced a guy who doesn't respect his own limitations.

He wasn't the only one.
As a team last night they seemed to play selfish football.

Look at Oscar McInerney last year at the Grand final and see how happy he was for Darcy Fort. Who at Carlton would be that happy for a teammate if they missed out on personal glory?

 

[kaiserchief13]

Should be sacked but the club is spineless.

Should take the list manager with him.

After 1 game? Yeah never going to happen to any head coach in any sport.

Would expect them to start the season at best 1-3 before playing West Coast and North so could get back to 3-3. If they are 1-5 or 0-6 he may go then but they probably give him to the bye

 

[SC_Power]

Cripps to ruck was a winning move

Umpires be like….brownlow? Cripps

 

[Sinjin Smith]

Dont rate Voss but we have a very unbalanced team which is one paced and relies on two big forwards to kick bags and one A grade mid. We are a middle of the road team leaning towards mediocre.

 

[errant bounce]

They looked like a training outfit out there, it was pre-season intensity.

The midfield is as bland as it gets, a bunch of coasters who have no edge – not just in attributes, but attrition. second to the ball, easily shrugged off tackles, and constantly breaking down on half forward.

I always find the yearly 'this is their year!' hype to be nonsense, they are just not that good of a side and Cripps is not the heroic captain everyone would like him to be. McKay and Curnow are too soft and miss easy shots too often.

The fact the commentators were waiting for Docherty to come on and then when he did, Docherty giving them a serious edge and a rise says everything. you can't rely on some old bloke who has a ****ed body to be the injector.

Jack Silvagni coming in too ffs, he should have been delisted years ago.

 

[nut]

They are now 2-11 from 13 games.
They’ve had an entire off season to improve.
Instead they let reasonable players go and look worse than last year.
Fitness is one thing you can be elite at …

 

[Aura]

Should be sacked but the club is spineless.

Should take the list manager with him.

The issue with Michael Voss is Brian Cook, whose leniency suggests that Voss will not be dismissed but rather fully supported—much like Mark Thompson was at Geelong. While that approach ultimately proved successful in our case, the key difference is that Voss had already demonstrated his coaching limitations at Brisbane. By the time Carlton decides to part ways with him, their so-called fab 5 may well be past their peak.