Carlton - turning the corner?

[chunkylover53]

Media doesn’t believe that.

I refresh my Twitter daily probably every 3 hours and honestly there's a new article about a different candidate every hour. Hinkley was thrown into the mix the other day wtf?

No secret the club absolutely loves making money and wants to be a 'big club' again. With the overwhelming endorsement from the fans for Teague, the way we have votes with our feet turning up to games since he took over and of course the W's, the club would be stupid to not appoint him unless it was for someone who could deliver equal $$$. Appointing Voss would piss a lot of members off, they just wouldn't risk it.

Not that it matters here but a very solid poster on the Carlton board with great mail said Voss is absolutely no chance.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Don't waste your time on the troll.

Right up there with Buzzasto De Silva.

Must be depressing for them to spend so much time on social media for purely negative reasons. Pathetic really. Some of the s*** these keyboard warriors love to heap on young and developing footballers is just weird.

Have Marcel and buzzasto ever been seen together? Just asking!!

 

[Tiger71]

Hope so. Carlton fans have suffered long enough

Agree but I am not sold on the Teague hype train, its scary similar to what happened to the tigers in 1997? with the Geish. Back then, the tigers were a rabble, like carlton has been. We sacked walls after another pumping and Geish took over. We then went on to play attacking open footy, was awesome to watch and won I think the last 7 games, with the last game being a famous victory in stopping Carlton from playing finals on there home deck.

See, the reason I am worried is that, when there is zero pressure after the main coach is gone, and your playing in the last part of the year. A team with nothing to lose and instructed to have fun, are coming up against sides who are either looking to next year ( as they are not making finals) or against finals qualified sides who may be in a heavy training phase or tinkering with systems. That can make the blues look a stack better then they actually are, like it did with us in 1997.

IMO, if there club has truly turned the cornor, they will ignore the masses and follow the process and appoint the best coach available as they see it. If they cop out and just allow the masses there way, god help them if it does not work out as the ramifications can and will be huge. Board sacked, coach sacked etc.

Even though the Tigers have been super stable in the last 15 years compared to most, those dark days of when we made those errors are still front of center.

 

[beaglebombs]

Will have their little hearts broken when Cogs laughs at their offers like Clarko did.

Feel bad for them if I’m honest

haha their little hearts broken", cute....won't be long and you and Melbourne will be joined at the hip as you were supposed to be! LOL

 

[beaglebombs]

Agree but I am not sold on the Teague hype train, its scary similar to what happened to the tigers in 1997? with the Geish. Back then, the tigers were a rabble, like carlton has been. We sacked walls after another pumping and Geish took over. We then went on to play attacking open footy, was awesome to watch and won I think the last 7 games, with the last game being a famous victory in stopping Carlton from playing finals on there home deck.

See, the reason I am worried is that, when there is zero pressure after the main coach is gone, and your playing in the last part of the year. A team with nothing to lose and instructed to have fun, are coming up against sides who are either looking to next year ( as they are not making finals) or against finals qualified sides who may be in a heavy training phase or tinkering with systems. That can make the blues look a stack better then they actually are, like it did with us in 1997.

IMO, if there club has truly turned the cornor, they will ignore the masses and follow the process and appoint the best coach available as they see it. If they cop out and just allow the masses there way, god help them if it does not work out as the ramifications can and will be huge. Board sacked, coach sacked etc.

Even though the Tigers have been super stable in the last 15 years compared to most, those dark days of when we made those errors are still front of center.

It'S actually a decent post this !!

 

[fridgeman]

The club looks to have improved with the recent wins although they have 1 winnable game left imo, but what I would hope for as well as the win in the saints game is good performances in the other 2, landing a good coach and sorting out the assistants with some good experience and then no season crossing injuries for players so they can start the pre season with a strong and healthy list.
For the trade and draft Not sure who is most likely but they need to see who will takeover from Simpson, Thomas, Kreuzer and Murphy either next year or in 2021
A good off season with the youth smashing it and I can see a 10 win season if they get things right but it is the year after when I believe they will challenge for finals
It will be interesting to see a best 22 for 2020 when the list changes are finalised as it will have enough talent just lacking the experience in those players and over the field especially if Thomas and Simpson finish up

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I refresh my Twitter daily probably every 3 hours and honestly there's a new article about a different candidate every hour. Hinkley was thrown into the mix the other day wtf?

No secret the club absolutely loves making money and wants to be a 'big club' again. With the overwhelming endorsement from the fans for Teague, the way we have votes with our feet turning up to games since he took over and of course the W's, the club would be stupid to not appoint him unless it was for someone who could deliver equal $$$. Appointing Voss would piss a lot of members off, they just wouldn't risk it.

Not that it matters here but a very solid poster on the Carlton board with great mail said Voss is absolutely no chance.

I could honestly see Voss being the next coach of the Gold Coast Suns, I think he deserves another crack at coaching some day, just not with us.

 

[Benny78]

Hope so. Carlton fans have suffered long enough

You know they cheated the cap in their last flag year right? 20 years of absence is not nearly enough punishment

 

[chunkylover53]

You know they cheated the cap in their last flag year right? 20 years of absence is not nearly enough punishment

No we got charged for cheating the cap from 1999-2001. Essendon are the only club to be caught cheating the salary cap in a premiership year.

Read up.

 

[Tushay]

No we got charged for cheating the cap from 1999-2001. Essendon are the only club to be caught cheating the salary cap in a premiership year.

Read up.

Facts will get you nowhere on BF.

 

[SickQwon]

Carlton won a final as little as 6 years ago, it's not like the supporters have suffered for decades....

 

[76woodenspooners]

Agree but I am not sold on the Teague hype train, its scary similar to what happened to the tigers in 1997? with the Geish. Back then, the tigers were a rabble, like carlton has been. We sacked walls after another pumping and Geish took over. We then went on to play attacking open footy, was awesome to watch and won I think the last 7 games, with the last game being a famous victory in stopping Carlton from playing finals on there home deck.

Carlton have their own experience to draw on ...

... after sacking Malthouse they put in Barker who was getting good results. But the club persisted on the course of getting the ‘best available’ coach after a thorough evaluation process - and ended up with Bolton.

If they cop out and just allow the masses there way, god help them if it does not work out as the ramifications can and will be huge. Board sacked, coach sacked etc.

Board sacked? Not likely. I would have thought the same thing three or four coaches ago and yet it has never happened (although to be fair, Ratten did OK).

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Carlton have their own experience to draw on ...

... after sacking Malthouse they put in Barker who was getting good results. But the club persisted on the course of getting the ‘best available’ coach after a thorough evaluation process - and ended up with Bolton.

To be fair over his time Bolton lost Touhy, Henderson, Yarran, Gibbs, Bell and Walker/Carrazzo too retirement, in return for basically kids. Add into that the first round busts from the previous regime (Menzel, Boekhurst, Watson, Lucas, McCarthy etc) and it was in hindsight a recipe for disaster. Bad injuries to Murphy, Cripps, Kreuzer and Docherty who are extremely important didn’t help (yes all clubs have injuries). He was up against it.

I’ll always be thankful for Bolts and his part in the “reset”. Maybe he went to hard on playing the kids early and in key positions, but he was only following a plan outlined by the board in 2015. The next coach needs to be a Beveridge type who moves from a development mindset and into a winning games mindset. Hopefully that’s Teague as the players seemingly love him.

 

[kickballfoot]

Carlton have their own experience to draw on ...

... after sacking Malthouse they put in Barker who was getting good results. But the club persisted on the course of getting the ‘best available’ coach after a thorough evaluation process - and ended up with Bolton.

Barker was 3-11 as interim coach (with multiple 10 goals losses) not sure I'd say he was getting good results.

 

[10571z]

After North’s performance last night I think it’s worth waiting until seasons end before appointing Teague.

 

[PAFC_1870]

After North’s performance last night I think it’s worth waiting until seasons end before appointing Teague.

Uh huh.

Port fell for Primus and that didn't go too good.

 

[Marcel Proust]

To be fair over his time Bolton lost Touhy, Henderson, Yarran, Gibbs, Bell and Walker/Carrazzo too retirement, in return for basically kids. Add into that the first round busts from the previous regime (Menzel, Boekhurst, Watson, Lucas, McCarthy etc) and it was in hindsight a recipe for disaster. Bad injuries to Murphy, Cripps, Kreuzer and Docherty who are extremely important didn’t help (yes all clubs have injuries). He was up against it.

I’ll always be thankful for Bolts and his part in the “reset”. Maybe he went to hard on playing the kids early and in key positions, but he was only following a plan outlined by the board in 2015. The next coach needs to be a Beveridge type who moves from a development mindset and into a winning games mindset. Hopefully that’s Teague as the players seemingly love him.

Bolton moved Murphy out of the middle to the development of the team long term. Teague didnt want to suffer that and put the band-aid back on but putting Murph on ball again.

I fear Carlton are in a false hope era. they played alright today but that fielded an older team than Richmond. 25yr 2mth Age 25yr 4mth

As under most of the Teague wins the better players were the old heads which wont be around forever.

ECurnow 30
Simpson 35
Thomas 32
Murphy 32
Jones 28
Casbolut 29
Kreuzer 30

I am skeptical how much of a reset it is

 

[chunkylover53]

Bolton moved Murphy out of the middle to the development of the team long term. Teague didnt want to suffer that and put the band-aid back on but putting Murph on ball again.

I fear Carlton are in a false hope era. they played alright today but that fielded an older team than Richmond. 25yr 2mth Age 25yr 4mth

As under most of the Teague wins the better players were the old heads which wont be around forever.

ECurnow 30
Simpson 35
Thomas 32
Murphy 32
Jones 28
Casbolut 29
Kreuzer 30

I am skeptical how much of a reset it is

In the spirit of this week..

I can’t even....

 

[DustinsGuns]

I think Blues have a good young core to build around...

Curnow, McKay, Cripps, Plowman, Fisher, SPS, Walsh, Marchbank all have shown enough.

Weitering, Silvangni and Settlfield have big question marks.

McGovern seems a poor pickup at this stage and won’t make it imo.

Need to build around that young core.

 

[76woodenspooners]

I think Blues have a good young core to build around...

Curnow, McKay, Cripps, Plowman, Fisher, SPS, Marchbank all have shown enough.

Needs more Walsh

 

[Marcel Proust]

I think Blues have a good young core to build around...

Curnow, McKay, Cripps, Plowman, Fisher, SPS, Marchbank all have shown enough.

Weitering, Silvangni and Settlfield have big question marks.

McGovern seems a poor pickup at this stage and won’t make it imo.

Need to build around that young core.

Plowmans skills would wanna lift a bit.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Bolton moved Murphy out of the middle to the development of the team long term. Teague didnt want to suffer that and put the band-aid back on but putting Murph on ball again.

I fear Carlton are in a false hope era. they played alright today but that fielded an older team than Richmond. 25yr 2mth Age 25yr 4mth

As under most of the Teague wins the better players were the old heads which wont be around forever.

ECurnow 30
Simpson 35
Thomas 32
Murphy 32
Jones 28
Casbolut 29
Kreuzer 30

I am skeptical how much of a reset it is

Are you working on the more often i say it the more true it must be principle Marcel?

 

[Rich01]

They relied on Cripps and their older players today. Kade, Ed and Daisy very good.

Blues supporters telling me Setterfield had a breakout week last week and the conditions were made for him. They’d be hoping to get a bit more out of him, Lang, LOB, Fisher, Kennedy, SPS and Dow moving forward.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Are you working on the more often i say it the more true it must be principle Marcel?

Every time I watch Carlton it seems to be Murphy, Kreuzer, Simpson and co. doing the heavy lifting

 

[FRUMPY]

I think Blues have a good young core to build around...

Curnow, McKay, Cripps, Plowman, Fisher, SPS, Walsh, Marchbank all have shown enough.

Weitering, Silvangni and Settlfield have big question marks.

McGovern seems a poor pickup at this stage and won’t make it imo.

Need to build around that young core.

Weitering question mark? Is that AA squad question? He has been fantastic this year

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