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Still comes back to the fact that IF they had 'self suspended' for two years back in Feb last year.. they would be coming back for next season... instead we will have this hanging over our heads for another two years at least.

Oh, and the fact they have sent show cause notices to every player shows have useless their case is.. as NOT every player was given the Thymosin irrespective of what variant they are talking about.

ASADA is just fishing and hoping players will roll over.
 
McDevitt dangling the "Any player who gives a full admission and provides assistance may get a reduced ban of 6 month" on 3AW.

Seems appealing over 2 - 3 years of legal fighting, especially if the end result is a 2 year ban. this season is ruined anyway, would be nice to start 2015 with this behind us.

He has also confirmed there are 34 current and ex players

They can't even admit to anything that's the thing.

It's not like we were plotting and scheming this stuff in the dark because it's illegal, they genuinely didn't know, and took every precaution to make sure they were in the right.

McDevitt can go f**k himselfw
 
And Gaze said he'd have no hesitation letting his son play? Or pulling his son out of the sport?
Gaze's comments were that as a father he would have no hesitation about his son playing at ESSENDON under Hird.
Voss said the same

Mind you neither scenario is likely.

Gaze has surprised me as he was very scathing regarding Hird at the outset of this
 

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They can't even admit to anything that's the thing.

It's not like we were plotting and scheming this stuff in the dark because it's illegal, they genuinely didn't know, and took every precaution to make sure they were in the right.

McDevitt can go f**k himselfw
Thats a good point, pretty hard to confess to cheating you were unaware of.

McDevitt sure is selling "a deal" pretty hard in then media. Suggests to me they know they don't have much of a case and the only way they'll get an positive result is to scare someone into confessing to protect themselves individually
 
As Le Grand pointed out ASADA ultimately have to prove their case. With no positive tests they would need some solid evidence, certainly a lot more than the evidence of a recently arrested former convicted drug felon.
 
Its interesting isn't though.. that the head of ASADA is releasing private details of a private investigation process.

But going on main stream media isn't leaking... ok then.

According to every Act this process should be confidential unless the INDIVIDUAL athlete chooses to come forward. yet another breach of protocol from a corrupt bunch of nuffies.
I suspect that McDevitt would say that no confidential information in relation to any specific player has been released, and that he's just providing a more general update on the process.
 
I suspect that McDevitt would say that no confidential information in relation to any specific player has been released, and that he's just providing a more general update on the process.
Yes.. no doubt that would be his excuse..

I still think that it is wrong. To have a national sporting body posturing that it has a 'good case' is damaging the reputations of athletes who have no yet even been put into the register.. let alone found guilty of doping. Cart.-->Horse.

As long as the players stay calm, united and let the lawyers work through the issues.. it will go no further.

I think court action to quash the whole 'quasi-legal' process would be best. Essentially erase the biggest mistake in global history of 'self reporting'... fruits of a poison tree.

IF the media leaks are correct and that is their circumstantial case.. they are going to have big big issues.
 
Go Andy Maher. You just put Hird under the bus. ******* Carlton supporting scum.

Andrew Gaze surprised me after Mahers little talk by saying he would have no hesitation should his son be playing at Essendon next year
Elaborate please.
 
So say most of these players take a hit and get banned - do we have a team next year? Or do we just drop out of the ******* competition?
We'd probably have to draft a bunch of VFL players for a couple of years, the AFL can't allow a team to just drop out because they are contractually obliged to have a certain number of games each year for the broadcasters.
 
Elaborate please.

Andy Maher is a campaigner. Andrew Gaze is less of a campaigner, but still a campaigner.

I wonder if that spineless Rapetank supporter would have said that last year when Watson was co-hosting?
 

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Batten down the hatches boys and girls. This is going to be another rough couple of days. We all know the drill by now......

Emotional 87 point win?
 
I'm looking at Gil and thinking it was his idea to self report. Vlad is Walker, Gil is Frank Underwood, Caro is the Jewish reporter woman and ASADA is China. No surprises that Gil has called ASADA in to give our show causes this week. This way it is over and done with ASAP and his reign can begin with this being put behind the league!
 
Maher was commenting about Hird coming back in 2 months.
Talking about how he shouldn't be coming back after what he'd done and that no parent would want their son playing under him.

This is completely irrelevant, but this concept of 'I wouldnt let my son play there' is absolutely laughable. If Andy Mahers son was drafted by us and Andy said 'nah mate, we don't want you going there' his son would punch him right in his smug face and sign, immediately
 
This is completely irrelevant, but this concept of 'I wouldnt let my son play there' is absolutely laughable. If Andy Mahers son was drafted by us and Andy said 'nah mate, we don't want you going there' his son would punch him right in his smug face and sign, immediately

If a dweeb like him can produce a son that makes it to the AFL .... he'd have to ask his wife WFF?
 
Maher was commenting about Hird coming back in 2 months.
Talking about how he shouldn't be coming back after what he'd done and that no parent would want their son playing under him.
Sounds fair enough to me.

After all, Hird deliberately injected Essendon players with banned drugs! Oh, wait, hang on...

Well, Hird was *the* man responsible for supervising the sports scientist who gave players drugs! Oh, wait, hang on...

Well, Hird definitely didn't set rules that players could only be given legal drugs! Oh, wait, hang on...
 
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