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Bloody Steve Hocking accidentally gave us the magnetic ball that was intended for the Richmond game!
Review Cats defeat gallant Pies by 6 points to get into another PF
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Bloody Steve Hocking accidentally gave us the magnetic ball that was intended for the Richmond game!
Or Leigh Brown in 2010
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Mason cox going for a speccy into someone’s back on the wing in the last quarter and making no contact with the ball.
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I didn't 'like' to read anything into it at all.
I simply shared my impression / reaction to what I saw in fleeting video footage of a few seconds, which I haven't had opportunity to view again.
You disagree, fair enough, but please don't go making assumptions about what a poster 'likes to read' in a situation with no information whatsoever.
For an outside mid / wing type player Duncan put his body on the line in a number of key contests when required of him. Happy with his game
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Wasn't aiming anything at you, just making a broad statement about the kinds of things humans in general derive from video footage that lacks inside knowledge and context. Again, not aimed directly at you. We're all good.
For a stronger example of what I was talking about, go and look at the 20+ pages of insanity and 'certainty' that Tigers supporters are swigging in regards to the Lynch non-goal. It's bizarre and cult-like insanity over there. One poster even claimed that in twenty years time, there's going to be a huge conspiracy unearthed wherein past umpires and ARC experts will appear in interviews with their faces blurred claiming the AFL instructed them to deliberately sabotage Richmond games to get them out of the finals. When I see a single shot of Stanley just glancing at the coach, there's almost nothing in that I can meaningfully derive. That's really my only point.
Ch 7 commentators are a bunch of nincompoops.
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Yeah, fair call, but there are often moments of human interaction and emotion that impart an impression, a gut feel, an intuition, to an observer.
Studies show humans 'read' faces to get a deeper insight into what the other is saying, or even just feeling, and that's what happened for me when I saw that brief footage. Now, I might've been way off base with my conclusion, but it's what I came away with.
Anyhow, I take your point, and as you say, we're all good.
Cheers
You ever watched soccer from the European leagues? It's pretty common to not only give a withering stare when they're taken off, but also to mutter obscenities, storm off and kick water bottles over etc. They get angry at themselves and at the manager. All good as gold after a post game chat. There wasn't time for a heated debate with the match on the line, so an angry stare was an excellent method to vent.
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Yeah. I went to the game with a Pies mate (I know!!) and he went ballistic when Rohan shanked his kick but I reckon he quickly realised how stupid he sounded and quietly moved on. They are definitely a different breed!
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Very quickly becoming one of my favourites. I don't know why, but I am constantly surprised by his speed. He gets the ball with an opposition player right on his heels, then just burns them. Love how confident he is in tacking them on - he knows they're not catching him. I've seen others mention his kicking this year - the improvement has been unreal. He looked shaky in his first season with ball in hand, but his kicking is a genuine weapon now. Add in his pace, work-rate, scoreboard impact...it's hard to know what his actual ceiling is, but I'm excited to find out.
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That's one of his trademarks, he often lifts a knee into someone or kicks at them and it gets dismissed almost as "oh that's just the big clumsy yank"
He knows exactly what he is doing
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Watching the replay I'm actually a lot more confident than just after the game. We were a lot more in control of general play than I thought at the time. They were just holding on at times after quarter time and a mix of shocking bounces, missed chances and really bad blunders at key moments kept them alive.
There are definitely question marks. The biggest one is Stanley who didn't look fit. Blicavs had some poor moments but how bad he was is being blown out of proportion. Dangerfield is a significant worry. After a year of much improved decision making he was back to trying to do way to much and costing us in key moments. Close was way down on his usual clean best. Smith struggled.
On the other side Cameron and Rohan were obviously great. Holmes was absolutely huge and I think clearly the dominant winger on the ground. Selwood, Atkins and Guthrie just kept winning hard balls and sending us forward. The entire defence was pretty rock solid.
I think we'll be better for the run and if we handle our moments a touch better next time we'll be a much harder team to beat.
There are definitely question marks. The biggest one is Stanley who didn't look fit. Blicavs had some poor moments but how bad he was is being blown out of proportion. Dangerfield is a significant worry. After a year of much improved decision making he was back to trying to do way to much and costing us in key moments. Close was way down on his usual clean best. Smith struggled.
On the other side Cameron and Rohan were obviously great. Holmes was absolutely huge and I think clearly the dominant winger on the ground. Selwood, Atkins and Guthrie just kept winning hard balls and sending us forward. The entire defence was pretty rock solid.
I think we'll be better for the run and if we handle our moments a touch better next time we'll be a much harder team to beat.
Excellent description.
In the thread of it for the vid I linked on Twitter, there are a bunch of Pies fans trying to claim it was all in jest because they had been called for two, in their words "questionable" (even though they weren't) deliberates earlier. They're an odd bunch.
Holmes can subtly change the angle of his runs to take him 2-3 metres clear before his opponent realises.
I still raised both hands at our goals when I rewatch it.
Yes he probably was, but I think he was taken on to get more run rather than hooked for poor play.
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That's a really good way to put it!
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MAXY never even looks like he is going flat out, but runs away from a lot of players easy, and loved when he ran down Daicos, and Daicos spat the dumbie
I think this is critical to understand. Thanks for the relative stats
We focus as supporters on how “bad” our players are playing in finals - and that is mainly around missing targets etc. but the reality is that all teams disposal efficiency goes down in finals. (Other than brisbane and Richmond game which frankly is not sustainable to win more than one final!).
So we just need to remember that when we are frustrated at how bad we look we need to remember the opposition supporters also can’t believe how much their team are letting us off the hook.
Pressure is huge!
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They're allowed to call ball at every tackle, that's just passion and also a bit ritualistic, as was the calls of deliberate. The pies got an arguably bad call early and they were just calling out deliberate for everything, no matter how absurd, done in humour for more than conviction.
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