He has been doing this all year, they pointed this out on a foxfooty show way back this year
Review Cats defeat gallant Pies by 6 points to get into another PF
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He has been doing this all year, they pointed this out on a foxfooty show way back this year
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Stewart kneed in the jaw in the first half…
Danger kneed in the head in the second half.
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Thats my worry too. Might be carrying something. I wouldnt play him if not fully fit.
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Pies were very fumbly too and made a lot of errors. They didn’t play a high skill game. We increased pressure and they made mistakes. We out-scored them after q1.
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Did he try and do a fake handpass to draw a 50?
He does that a lot and they were cracking down on it and saying they consider that a play on.
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Pies were all focused on Jez and were ball watching. Then it was Rohan they focused on. By then it was too late. Daicos only sprinted in the last 30m when he felt like he had a chance to get involved. He was jogging the whole way up. Maynard actually left Rohan to try and tackle Jez, who got off that kick and took a decent hit from Maynard. Sidebottom had to cover Rohan.
That was beautiful by the team - and don’t forget Guthrie’s vision and execution to get the ball to JC.
It was a hugely stressful last few moments on the bench, I wouldn't read to much into the death stare. I think every player primed to go on if needed. Stanley watching Scotty intently, maybe listening to Scott's frantic directions- but you couldn't reasonably expect to be sent in as ballast at that stage of the game, it's lock down with the personnel you have out there in the last 1.10.
Finally finished the replay:
I have to agree with an earlier post about Stanley. He wasn't that bad. He wasn't angry Stanley, but he put in some effort. He looked like a guy who hadn't played much footy recently; also posted earlier. He seemed just a moment behind everything, not in front of them, reactive not proactive sort of thing. Didn't that manic angry energy that makes him a better player.
And I disagree with those that say Bews, Tuohy, and Henry played poorly. They didn't, at least not worse that anybody else did on the team including Selwood. They just didn't have those one on one highlights that they often do, and the ball didn't come into their immediate area as much this game.
Blicavs wasn't the only Cat slipping over. His happened in terrible situations mostly.
Overall I think some here have unfairly slagged some of our players.
And I think if we had to play next weekend we would look very sharp. It took us a while to start pushing through the corridor effectively, but we were in the 2H. IMO
I have to agree with an earlier post about Stanley. He wasn't that bad. He wasn't angry Stanley, but he put in some effort. He looked like a guy who hadn't played much footy recently; also posted earlier. He seemed just a moment behind everything, not in front of them, reactive not proactive sort of thing. Didn't that manic angry energy that makes him a better player.
And I disagree with those that say Bews, Tuohy, and Henry played poorly. They didn't, at least not worse that anybody else did on the team including Selwood. They just didn't have those one on one highlights that they often do, and the ball didn't come into their immediate area as much this game.
Blicavs wasn't the only Cat slipping over. His happened in terrible situations mostly.
Overall I think some here have unfairly slagged some of our players.
And I think if we had to play next weekend we would look very sharp. It took us a while to start pushing through the corridor effectively, but we were in the 2H. IMO
There was no way Stanley could go back in. He wasn't hooked so much as tactical taken off to have a quicker team out there in the end.
Or the forgotten man Duncan, who took the original hospital handball but cooly swung around to release Guthrie a second time. He had great moments all game and was about as inspirational as Stewart, Sel and Atkins I thought. Although only a couple have shared the same view it seems.
I watched him closely on the replay. He went for a leaping defensive spoil in the 2Q and another later in the game. Once Pies Cameron came down on his leg and I thought he might have gotten hurt, he got up and competed well at next ball up.
After the big Rohan mark in the 3Q he perked up a little and was waving for the ball running forward.
I think he was just missing that manic energy that has made him good this year. It was past years Stanley we saw. When he has it he a little stronger and quicker after the ball. He was a bit straight legged instead of flexed, especially earlier in the game.
all IMHO
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Pies made more clangers than us though, made 4 more turnovers than we did and their disposal efficiency was 69.7% (ours was 68.4%/Sydney went at 70.7%/Freo went at 74.4%/Bris went at 68.2%).
So statistically speaking the Pies weren't perfect, they turned it over and were marginally more effective with their disposals than us, and were behind Sydney and Freo.
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Yeah, I suppose a more accurate description of what I was seeing is that, Pies seemed to transition the ball with ease when they needed to. In those instances it seemed like we couldn't catch them at all, to the point that I just pencilled in a goal if Pies got the ball free.
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I watched the replay today and i can honestly say i dont think ive seen a game lately where the ball has bounced as favourable for our opponents, seemed like every time the ball hit the ground it bounced in the direction of the nearest Collingwood player, anyone else think that?
What we have gotten from Holmes this year I thought we would get in 2 years time. Ditto Close. Did not see Atkins emerging as a midfield bull this season, nor a key reason we won the QF.
Holmes has always been quick, and just needed a tank. He was also a shank of a kick for goal.
1.7 from 12 games last year, 12.5 this season. 12 goal assists this year, 3 last year.
But if you look as how he has tracked from last year to this year, its massive. Stepped up his disposal averages, marks, goals, assists, i50s, clearances, r50s.
His score involvements and meters gained are through the roof too, which you want from a winger.
All he needs to do is curb his clangers and he will be elite within 2 years.
We have an absolute weapon on our hands.
So often during the game they had players free outside of contests for either a dump kick from us or them. And often they had free players in their f50. Thankfully they missed a few of those shots, but we could have had a bigger 1/4 margin to come back from.
Disposal efficiency higher as well because they were forced into chipping it around to safe options. 3 or 4 nothing kicks while they waited for something to open up. We pretty much allowed that if it stopped their run and gun approach. Efficiency inside 50 was considerably lower i.e when the crucial pass needed to be executed.
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iirc he drew the arm back as if he was going to but he never made any forward movement to imply he was actually handpassing it.
I also believe Rohan was so into the zone to atone for his reputation, that he was going to die in order to get that ball after missing the mark. It was pure 110% desperation to get to it and make sure Holmes got it.Yeah... most times you misjudge a ball with your hands, there's a body or a face behind it to take the impact.
He was turning the same way as the flight of the ball, but the ball was going a lot quicker than he was... so it went passed his arms with nothing behind it and rolled on towards Holmes. Rohan just had to keep moving in the direction he was going, luckily his balance lasted until he got to the ball.
Sidebottom also misjudged how badly Rohan was about to misjudge it and slipped over trying to adjust, which was perfect for us
On a night when every bounce seemed to go in their favour, it was perhaps a perfect play by Rohan, completely unintentionally.
It was driving him the whole game, especially after missing the first goal attempt. He was a few percent above everyone else out there.
No you're right. In the second half in particular, it felt as though half the Collingwood chances began with a bizarre bounce of the ball. Blicavs was so befuddled it was like he was skating on marbles.
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Yeah but you make your own luck. They were running themselves into the ground to get outnumbers to every contest. Luck is manufactured through workrate
I pencilled in goal attempts for them first quarter when they kept transitioning the ball UNOPPOSED down that wing!
It was so obvious, noticeable from our seats, where the kick out was going from their D. Magpies were primed for that positioning. Yet our mids and HB's refused to man that side, most likely expecting more direct centre/opposite wing ball. That inflexibility is the only thing that worries me about our coaching and game plan mindset.
Disagree. It was phenomenal how many times they were advantaged by pure physics.
No matter how hard you work, a ball diverting crazily like that more than a few times is sheer bad luck/bounce.
In fact, I might borrow a Tiggers tin hat and say the AFL planted magnets in it, and Pies (Home) shorts.
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So I just rewatched the game after taking the emotion out of it. Stanley was flogged and offered little. I think he stays in but gee he needs to get a bit of mongrel back. Hawk, although a bit quiet battled well, did some good things. Loved the path he cleared for Rohan to take that grab. Knew exactly where he was and did the job. My god we butchered some opportunity’s going forward which we haven’t really done all year. Likewise some took shots and they should have looked inboard as we had free runners. I’m confidant that won’t happen again. Smith and Toughy will be better for the run. As others have said I’m astonished with how many times the ball bounced the wrong way for us, the pies for some luck there. O’Connor was pretty good and I reckon it helped us too in coping with the pace the pies had in the forward line. Kolo just too slow for that game, a blessing in disguise. If we get the pies in the GF I’m sure we learned a few lessons last night.
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I wondered about that. Stanley seemed reluctant to jump at bounces and in marking contests. Very unusual for him not to take a single mark.
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