Racing Caulfield Cup 2023

Caulfield Cup Winner?

  • 9.DUKE DE SESSA(14) - John Allen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 12.EMISSARY(4) - Jye McNeil

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 13.GOLDMAN(18) - Linda Meech

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 15.FAME(16) - Craig Newitt

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 16.BOIS D ARGENT(3) - Winona Costin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 17.SPIRIT RIDGE(10) - Dean Yendall

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    54
  • Poll closed .

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CAULFIELD CUP 1-MINUTE FORM GUIDE

GOLD TRIP - ludicrous Turnbull win but has shown that level rarely in Australia. That runs win this but must be doubts about the repeatability. Started $15 in a weaker version of this last year with less weight on a bog and got rolled by Durston so hard to get enthused about the current price.
WITHOUT A FIGHT - the one to beat and should be fave - total BT in the Underwood where it started $5 and drops in weight here. Drawn to settle closer and will look the winner at some stage.
BREAKUP - Should be renamed Mr Nagasaki for how cooked he is. Won't even get warm over the 2400 and is the absolute poison at the top of the market.
MONTEFILA - Ran a nice 4th in last years weaker edition but there is a wide body of work showing she is not up to winning a race like this. Looks very short.
FRANCESCO GUARDI - Turnbull run suggests he is the same kind of second tier stayer hype fraud that White Marlin and Goldman are. No.
WEST WIND BLOWS - Outstanding in the Turnbull and even Spencer shouldn't be able to get 3 wide from gate 2 here. Will be up on the pace and not stopping - the main danger.
NONCONFORMIST - Heroic second to Incentivise two years ago but that form is long gone and he is just making up the numbes here.
SOULCOMBE - Every run this prep a perfect cup trial and if he can jump out of the gates he is in this up to his years. Worry he doesn't get quite enough weight from the better WFA horses though.
DUKE DE SESSA - Looms as this years Gold Trip as a European with black type form entering through the WFA races. Could explode although withdrawal from MC at second acceptances suggests he is not going that good?
HOO YA MAL - Has looked on track for this all prep and will be up on the pace and out of trouble - one of the few blowout hopes not coming through the traditional lead ups.
RIGHT YOU ARE - Got in through winning the Mornington Cup - that's more this level.
EMISSARY - Hit a two-race golden patch in the Geelong and Melbourne Cup last year and has done nothing since. Won't be featuring.
GOLDMAN - Just another in a long line of offseason stayers who don't measure up in the big leagues. Cooked.
OKITA SOUSHI - This year's Camorra - and Irish plodder you do not want to be anywhere near at the 600 when he starts going backwards.
FAME - Genuine 999/1 shot on Betfair - the handicapper must have been on smack when allocating his weight as he is a midweek Sandown horse at best.
BOIS D'ARGENT - Been getting rolled in Big Dance qualifiers suggests he is not good enough to feature in this Big Dance.
SPIRIT RIDGE - Somehow ran Just Fine to a nose at 100/1 in a dogshit metrop. That horse beaten 30 Saturday. No
VALIANT KING - Would be half the quote if you forgive a horse a bad run and has no weight. Has Vauban form so would want to be doing something here given that horse is odds on for Flemington.
 
Win Mighty lapped in the Sapporo Kinen today. Wouldnt even bother coming now.

Good form for Romantic Warrior though with Prognosis bolting in by 4 lengths
 

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I find this increasingly hard as it appears to be less and less targeted - WAF is probs a moral if it lobs but I think it will end up winning the Underwood and diverting to the Cox Plate.

Main suggestion would be not to get sucked into the Soulcombe hype as it won't be anywhere near up to it.
 
I find this increasingly hard as it appears to be less and less targeted - WAF is probs a moral if it lobs but I think it will end up winning the Underwood and diverting to the Cox Plate.

Main suggestion would be not to get sucked into the Soulcombe hype as it won't be anywhere near up to it.
Thanks for your thoughts
Like always target something that actually runs and sit back and watch it go round
 
Having a proper look at the Caulfield Cup now the weights are out

1. Without a Fight - Connections confirmed this is the goal now and 55.5kg is a very winnable weight for a horse who will be coming through as hopefully a legitimate WFA horse.

2. West Wind Blows - Easily the number 2 seed for me. The second in the Hardwicke Stakes behind Pyledriver is good form for this and he has beaten home horses like Deauville Legend and Dubai Honour recently who we know out here. Gets in nicely with 54kg.

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3. Breakup - Like him a lot more at Flemington over 2 miles and he probably just closes off for a nice 3rd or 4th here but its a pretty thin race and he has more quality than most of these

4. Hezashocka - Has runs some very solid races at the elite WFA level the last couple preps. Ran 3rd in the Champions Stakes then backed in up with a 4th in the Queen Elizabeth in the Autumn. Some ok runs around them as well. On ratings he has got in really well with just 52.5kg and at 80s at the moment I think is a decent roughie in a race of limited chances.

5. Gold Trip - Returned to racing well after stinking up the Autumn. Has a fair bit of weight to carry with 58.5kg but he is a big horse who has done it before and both returning Cups winners and top weights have a great record in this race.

6. Hoo Ya Mal - First couple runs this time in have been ok for a horse who will need the 2400m to be at his best. Think he is a little bit forgotten because he flopped in the Cup last year but this could be a more suitable trip.

7. Duke De Sessa - Another roughie at 40s. His international form at this sort of trip wasn't bad and we are yet to see him race at a distance here that will see him perform at his best but even over a mile in the Doncaster he closed off ok.

8. Floating Artist - He hasn't even passed the ballot yet but can take care of that on the weekend. Has shown he can be somewhat competitive at this level already. Has come back well from injury and should continue to improve with racing as he steps out over further.

Others - Francesco Guardi and Soulcombe dont like the weight or the price. Valiant King and Okita Soushi im not keen on anyway but they look very unlikely to even get a run in the race.
 
WWb form is totally fraudulent. Got prs on pace early in the season. That kind of form always fails. He is nowhere near Dubai H form. He gets in well at the weights is the main positive but laughable to have him second seed. It’s this years Aspetar and Danceteria. Form that looks good on paper but actually isn’t.

Hezashocka? Lol couldn’t win a CC if it started today.

Break up Goldie and floating artist are all cooked
 
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Hopefully unlike Goldie he doesn’t get nutted by a camel on the line
DDS could be the dark horse in the cups , 2400 + it’s optimal distance

Would want to be rocking up in the Turnbull or they are running out of time
 
DDS is going very well. Stable have a big opinion and expect to run this week. Caulfield Cup in the frame.
Gold Trip also going well - over his foot problems.

I like him as a rough speculative pick but a bit of stretch to say he is going very well when he has had one run this prep for a 10th where he pulled up with EIPH. Would want to see a top 5 finish in the Turnbull
 

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