Politics Centrelink

[Bleeeeeeeeep]

tried to register online, lol.
jumping through hoop after hoop, going around in circles. Need to go into an office and line up I guess.
The system is heck e d, designed to discourage not to help.
Says a lot about the people that we have been governed by.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

tried to register online, lol.
jumping through hoop after hoop, going around in circles. Need to go into an office and line up I guess.
The system is ******* e d, designed to discourage not to help.
Says a lot about the people that we have been governed by.

My wife dealt with them for healthcare cards, and child assist, etc .
I don't think we were ever able to deal with anything at all without phoning in , or going into the office.
Phoning always meant sticking it on speaker and leaving it for ages until they spoke to you.

The government should have a welfare agency who decides who does what.
They should then take tenders for a private organisation to do the distribution and communication.

Its been like it for a long list of different governments.

 

[GreyCrow]

tried to register online, lol.
jumping through hoop after hoop, going around in circles. Need to go into an office and line up I guess.
The system is ******* e d, designed to discourage not to help.
Says a lot about the people that we have been governed by.

And even without this crisis it's an ineffective system designed to discourage

 

[radiojake]

definitely designed to make it as difficult/annoying as possible to sign up

my theory is they want people to get so frustrated that they feel it's easier to go and get a job instead

so glad it's been a few years since i've had to deal with them but this is gonna be ****ed

 

[The Prosecutor]

I think it's fair to say this is going to destroy the 'Dole Bludger' narrative for a long, long time.

 

[brucetiki]

definitely designed to make it as difficult/annoying as possible to sign up

my theory is they want people to get so frustrated that they feel it's easier to go and get a job instead

so glad it's been a few years since i've had to deal with them but this is gonna be f’ed

Government responses today:

Social Services Minister: Go home and apply online or over the phone (well aware that both options are overwhelemed at the moment).

Government Services Minister: Oops. My bad. I didn't expect so many people to lose their jobs.

A million people expected to lose their jobs as coronavirus pandemic spreads

Centrelink is still struggling to keep up with unprecedented demand from people seeking financial assistance amid the coronavirus pandemic, with the minister responsible saying he didn't realise what the impact of shutting thousands of businesses would be.

www.abc.net.au

Your observations are spot on (plus throw in a special level of incompetence).

 

[brucetiki]

I think it's fair to say this is going to destroy the 'Dole Bludger' narrative for a long, long time.

What will Tracey Grimshaw do now...

 

[Rob R]

definitely designed to make it as difficult/annoying as possible to sign up

my theory is they want people to get so frustrated that they feel it's easier to go and get a job instead

so glad it's been a few years since i've had to deal with them but this is gonna be f’ed

Designed to be bad because it was designed by Canberra public servants whose only skills seem to be going to cafes and finding ways to cut more jobs in service delivery so they can fund more Canberra bureaucrats.
You should see a normal day at the tuggeranong shopping centre, all day it is full of people.shopping and drinking while wearing their health and human services lanyards.

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[radiojake]

friend of mine just told me there are cops turning people away from centrelink offices


not only is this all ****ed, but it's the prime environment to upscale the police state

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I think it's fair to say this is going to destroy the 'Dole Bludger' narrative for a long, long time.

You Dole bludgers had the system clogged, so the real workers couldn't collect their welfare when they needed to.

 

[tombomb]

I'm an LNP voter usually, but I gotta say that Stuart Robert is a complete idiot and needs to be replaced immediately. His portfolio is too important.

 

[Ducky Tie]

I'm entitled to youth allowance, however I haven't gone on it yet.

I've just lost my casual job at the pub. I assume I'll still be able to get the youth allowance now? Also, am I entitled to anything else at this stage?

 

[Bleeeeeeeeep]

Government responses today:

Social Services Minister: Go home and apply online or over the phone (well aware that both options are overwhelemed at the moment).

Government Services Minister: Oops. My bad. I didn't expect so many people to lose their jobs.

A million people expected to lose their jobs as coronavirus pandemic spreads

Centrelink is still struggling to keep up with unprecedented demand from people seeking financial assistance amid the coronavirus pandemic, with the minister responsible saying he didn't realise what the impact of shutting thousands of businesses would be.

www.abc.net.au

Your observations are spot on (plus throw in a special level of incompetence).

You can’t register online, you need to go to the office to proof ID so you can get a CRN number, even if you have myGov already.
So I have proofed my ID to get a myGov then I have to proof ID again to get on the dole?
Designed to discourage.
30 years ago was the last time I was in a Centrelink (CES I think it was back then) and you would think it would be easier.
Designed to discourage.

 

[Father Jack]

It's occurred to me that the LNP's fixation on saving as much money as possible by cutting from services as much as possible so they can have that marketing talking point known as 'the surplus', was akin to speeding down the highway to get somewhere quicker, it's all well and good and looks effective when all goes well, but as soon as something out of the ordinary happens there's no time to react and the next thing you know you've got a giant fireball.

 

[skipper kelly]

I'm entitled to youth allowance, however I haven't gone on it yet.

I've just lost my casual job at the pub. I assume I'll still be able to get the youth allowance now? Also, am I entitled to anything else at this stage?

From what you have stated you will be eligible for Youth Allowance and you will also get the coronavirus supplement from the end of next month. Ring them up with your ID handy. It could take hours to get through.

 

[Ducky Tie]

From what you have stated you will be eligible for Youth Allowance and you will also get the coronavirus supplement from the end of next month. Ring them up with your ID handy. It could take hours to get through.

Cheers mate. Will I need some form of evidence proving a loss of income? Letter from employer etc?

 

[skipper kelly]

Cheers mate. Will I need some form of evidence proving a loss of income? Letter from employer etc?

I believe that is being waived at the moment. You will need 100 points of ID. (look up on the centrelink website what ID is needed.) I also believe they are accepting ID over the phone. So get it all together before you ring, including knowing all your circumstances ie rent, bank balances etc, then just ring and wait.

 

[skipper kelly]

Cheers mate. Will I need some form of evidence proving a loss of income? Letter from employer etc?

Also, if you are still living at home with your parents then your eligibility might be different. Not sure, but it is all on the website. Always be armed with all the relevant knowledge if you can.

 

[radiojake]

**** me they reckon newstart numbers will go from 700,000 (current number) up to 1.7 million

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I'm entitled to youth allowance, however I haven't gone on it yet.

I've just lost my casual job at the pub. I assume I'll still be able to get the youth allowance now? Also, am I entitled to anything else at this stage?

ALH group have announced they will be paying their casuals for the shifts they were already rostered for the next couple of weeks.

 

[The Prosecutor]

fu** me they reckon newstart numbers will go from 700,000 (current number) up to 1.7 million

That's on the optimistic side too, I dare say.

 

[radiojake]

UBI would be good right about now

 

[Gough]

UBI would be good right about now

It'll be interesting to see where the cards land when this all finishes. History suggests that after crisis' governments tend to be removed from office which means a series of left leaning governments would be tasked with rebuild. I hope that unlike the GFC the cost of paying for all of this won't be shifted onto us mug punters.

 

[skipper kelly]

It'll be interesting to see where the cards land when this all finishes. History suggests that after crisis' governments tend to be removed from office which means a series of left leaning governments would be tasked with rebuild. I hope that unlike the GFC the cost of paying for all of this won't be shifted onto us mug punters.

It probably won't impact too much on trust funds.

 

[giggler99]

tried to register online, lol.
jumping through hoop after hoop, going around in circles. Need to go into an office and line up I guess.
The system is ******* e d, designed to discourage not to help.
Says a lot about the people that we have been governed by.

It's an absolute shitstorm, Asks for a CRN number even when not registered but doesn't explain how to obtain one! No one dirct number either on the centerlink site confusing as ****! and when I did finally call says busy or call fail. you have no other choice but to lineup at one of their centers!

How has this system been implemented as a solution it's a ****ing problem what a joke!

epic epic fail!!