Discussion Certificates of Authenticity for guernseys

[Gibbsy]

One for the collectors, buyers and sellers. Does a certificate of authenticity add any value to a guernsey in your opinion? Would a signed guernsey with a COA be more reputable than a signed guernsey without a COA? Or is it that COA's are so easy to create and fake now, that they are worth nothing more than the paper they're printed on?

I think an official COA from the particular football club is reassuring, but anything else isn't really worth it.

Your thoughts?

 

[32Watson]

Not sure Gibbsy - I have got one with my Simon Madden autographed Sherrin Jumper...

Would like to think the Guernsey is authentic

 

[Cole Dammett]

COAs only mean anything to me if they come from the club, don't give a shit about a COA from some random dude on eBay. If anything, a COA from someone who I don't see as reputable devalues the item to me. If I see something suspect on eBay, and the seller provides their own printed COA, It makes me think they're trying to increase the authenticness of the item to buyers who wouldn't know better than to see the words COA and believe it

 

[Greater Gattsby]

I believe the COA does add value to the guernsey as it is proof the item is legit, which adds credibility towards the seller.

If I was buying a Yellow Peril WCE 25th Anniversary jumper, and there were 2 PI's on eBay, I would buy the one with the COA for an extra $10-$25.

 

[Haydos_WCE]

I believe the COA does add value to the guernsey as it is proof the item is legit, which adds credibility towards the seller.

If I was buying a Yellow Peril WCE 25th Anniversary jumper, and there were 2 PI's on eBay, I would buy the one with the COA for an extra $10-$25.

That is the big problem here. COAs in many instances cannot be taken as 100% proof that an item is legit because, as has been mentioned, they can be created quite easily. When you buy from a unknown memorabilia shop or random seller on eBay, you don't really know where the item is coming from. I mean, not in the same way you do when you are buying from an AFL club, for instance. A COA put together in Microsoft Publisher by seller joebloggs6483293 is not going to garner the same level of trust for me.

This is not saying that eBay sellers or stores that make their own COAs have fake or suspicious items, but just making the point that a COA in many instances; due to the ease of creation, cannot prove anything, thus making it completely worthless.

COAs do not mean a thing to me unless they come from the particular sporting club of which the item was purchased. Historically though, we have even seen issues with this, as you would have read in this thread.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...n-training-guernsey-from-afl-auctions.972526/

Specifically regarding autographed jumpers, some sellers now provide 'authenticity' via photographic evidence or videos of a particular signing to try and gain buyer confidence. If signed jumpers are your thing, would you prefer this to COAs?

Keeping in mind that I don't often search for footy jumpers other than West Coast, how often do you see examples of rare and/or signed jumpers that are fake, but have a COA? The answer to this question could go a long way into seeing how worthless COAs can be.

 

[Silent Alarm]

They're a load of shit.

 

[Patterz123]

COA's from an AFL Club or a reputable organisation (EG: A Charity, such as The Shane Warne Foundation), serve their purpose. The item comes from them and they endorse them. Works well for match worn items.

Signed items only, are a little different. As then they may have originated from smaller companies whom have done a private signings with the individual. (What the AFL is trying to stamp out with contracted players). Although their are a few reputable smaller companies going around, that I trust.

It all comes down to whom the COA has been issued by, as mentioned by others. If you trust the company, you usually trust the product. One small hate of mine, is when a seller states "it comes with a COA", but doesn't say from whom, or show a picture of the COA. That does shit all for reputation and authenticating a product.

 

[makri]

One for the collectors, buyers and sellers. Does a certificate of authenticity add any value to a guernsey in your opinion? Would a signed guernsey with a COA be more reputable than a signed guernsey without a COA? Or is it that COA's are so easy to create and fake now, that they are worth nothing more than the paper they're printed on?

I think an official COA from the particular football club is reassuring, but anything else isn't really worth it.

Your thoughts?

COA's men nothing, even from the clubs. I've got a COA from collingwood telling me that one of my jumpers is match worn when I know 100% it wasn't.

Even ended up getting a refund from the club and kept he jumper.

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

I seen a jumper today it was a Anzac jumper. How would a person get a Anzac jumper if it was not from the club? They don't sell them. So really it has to come from the club. The coa is just confirming that.

 

[makri]

I seen a jumper today it was a Anzac jumper. How would a person get a Anzac jumper if it was not from the club? They don't sell them. So really it has to come from the club. The coa is just confirming that.

Over the past few years quite a few have come up on eBay. Considering they make up from every number two sleeveless and one longsleeve there should be quit a few in circulation.

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

I'm
Watching a show on tv called which is a show about sporting merchandise sign & match worns. They are trying to authenticate a jumper from a photo.

So someone has a coa from someone comparing a photo to the item.


I know first hand club coa's are not always right. Players do keep their milestone jumpers... Anzacs one offs.

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

I know online some people acquire items directly from the supplier. Like all the pies jumpers. I'm fairly certain they don't come with a coa as they may have not passed through the clubs hands.

I'd be happy to buy one of these over a club one as I know there's a chance both have not been worm

 

[makri]

I'm
Watching a show on tv called which is a show about sporting merchandise sign & match worns. They are trying to authenticate a jumper from a photo.

So someone has a coa from someone comparing a photo to the item.


I know first hand club coa's are not always right. Players do keep their milestone jumpers... Anzacs one offs.

I bought Chris Egan's 'match worn' jumper from the 2005 heritage round off AFL Auctions. The only reason I bought this jumper is beacuse I wanted a long sleeve version of this jumper, and Egan wore long sleeves in all four quaters. To my shock when I recieved the jumper in the mail, along with the certificate, it wasn't longsleeved, and therfore not match worn.

After alot of phone calls I ended up getting a refund. Not sure if they wanted me to send back the jumper back but I ended up keeping it. PI for free, can't really complain about that. I've got the certificae somwhere, not sure where though.

 

[Mero]

Only recently someone on here bought a Crows jumper from last year which I remember as having come with a CoA from the club.
And it didn't have the GPS pouch, and was therefore not a PI, let alone match worn.

 

[TheGreatBambino]

The COA the bulldogs sent me after I got a PI Guernsey of their auction site, looked like it was made on Microsoft word.

 

[Greater Gattsby]

The COA the bulldogs sent me after I got a PI Guernsey of their auction site, looked like it was made on Microsoft word.

Where else would it be made?

 

[FXD_]

Only recently someone on here bought a Crows jumper from last year which I remember as having come with a CoA from the club.
And it didn't have the GPS pouch, and was therefore not a PI, let alone match worn.

It was a player issue training guernsey. So still a PI.

 

[Stewart2Austin Reborn]

Where else would it be made?

Publisher

 

[Greater Gattsby]

Publisher

People are too stupid to use publisher, they think "errr cermputer, need werds. uerse mercrerserft werd."

 

[BILC]

The COA's I have on my 2 most valuable items I think definitely add value to the jumper.

My Luke Power 06' heritage match worn and my Shiels 2012 GF match worn both come with official COA's from the club, would be worth considerably less without them.

 

[Jmuz78]

Can anyone tell me where I would be able to get someone to look at a essodon footy that i would like to get a COA for?

 

[Chris who]

Can anyone tell me where I would be able to get someone to look at a essodon footy that i would like to get a COA for?

you cant get "retro" CoA's

Your ball isn't really worth more than 100$ anyway so its a moot point

 

[DiamondGuy]

I've got a COA from collingwood telling me that one of my jumpers is match worn when I know 100% it wasn't.

LOL, I also have a COA from Collingwood with a factual error in it. This probably just adds weight to the idea that it came from the club though.

Those from eBay sellers are absolutely worthless. From clubs, I've only seen two. Both would be incredibly easy to fake using a $30 printer from Officeworks.

 

[CogsObsession]

I've bought a number of guernseys from my club in the auctions over the last few years, some do come with the COA and the others don't. I wish they'd offer them with all of the guernseys they sell.

All the COAs are professionally done by the club/afl with the holo sticker on the COA.