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Unless you want to change our whole forward "strategy" for finals, the player Ozario is competing with is Riolli. Riolli isn't there for pressure, he's there as a typical small forward, to kick goals and pressure is a bonus. He's done pretty good at that. Finlayson is one player who we really need to get back to his form from earlier this season. His drop in form and the loss of McKenzie have had a big impact on our best team form.
 
Lord's not up to scratch at the moment but his selection is needed for structural reasons - and it's good to see our coaches finally acknowledge this after years of Neade's and S Gary's sitting in the goal square manning up on Rance/McGovern/May et al.

Having said that, he makes way for Dixon the instant Dixon can show he can jog at a half reasonable pace.
 
This is exactly how they view the forward structure. People here seem to want to judge McEntee on his marks and goals but those are bonuses to what he's actually there for. He's there to facilitate our pressure forward game. We've played our best footy when we lock it in our forward half. He's simply not being judged on the same criteria as blokes like Marshall and Riolli. Marshall should be under more pressure than McEntee as he hasn't really been performing his role to expected levels since Dixon came back.

Yes I want to change our whole forward strategy for finals!

Our best footy hasn't been good enough historically against the best.

Against the best teams we win the i50 but can't convert.

When they get their turn they do and that's the difference.

It is a failed strategy.

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This is exactly how they view the forward structure. People here seem to want to judge McEntee on his marks and goals but those are bonuses to what he's actually there for. He's there to facilitate our pressure forward game. We've played our best footy when we lock it in our forward half. He's simply not being judged on the same criteria as blokes like Marshall and Riolli. Marshall should be under more pressure than McEntee as he hasn't really been performing his role to expected levels since Dixon came back.
Forward pressure is more than just one guy; it’s an entire team effort. McKenna and Ah Chee aren’t threats at all either. Dropping McEntee isn’t going to cost us the game.
 
Is it negativity, just because it doesn't align with delusion. Brisbane haven't lost at home this year and have demonstrated they have the wood on us. Spin it however you want, beating them will require an astonishing performance. I can see many, many reasons why we won't, and not many why we will. That's not negativity, that's realism.
Yeah I get that but what I'm reading doesn't correlate to that. It's going to be tough yes but watching them the last month, Brisbane's been terrible. Struggling to move the ball, leaking goals to terrible teams, getting beaten in the midfield. They popped up at Marvel and played wel against a battered collingwood and then went back to shit again in the last round. The pressure they are under is the same as well, lose this home final and Fagan can kiss his job goodbye after years of similar failures and they seem to react to that pressure the same as us and cough up wins at home in finals, hell the AFL had to cheat richmond out of a win to get them a home final win.
 
Forward pressure is more than just one guy; it’s an entire team effort. McKenna and Ah Chee aren’t threats at all either. Dropping McEntee isn’t going to cost us the game.
Fantasia also creates a completely different type of pressure. Whoever his opponent is needs to remain defensively accountable for the entire game.

If you’re a small defender, who’d you rather be playing on ? McEntee or Fantasia ?
 
Fantasia also creates a completely different type of pressure. Whoever his opponent is needs to remain defensively accountable for the entire game.

If you’re a small defender, who’d you rather be playing on ? McEntee or Fantasia ?


I mean you'd probably just go up and slap Fantasia's calf and he'd fall over....
 
Unless you want to change our whole forward "strategy" for finals, the player Ozario is competing with is Riolli.
Our forward strategy is dogshit and I absolutely want to change it for finals.
 
Calling McEntee a pressure forward also feels like club propaganda, there's nothing that indicates he is one because his AFL stats are awful. I'm not even seeing it live. I can understand calling that for Jake Neade or Sam Gray because they actually run around like headless chickens in the forward line chasing defenders.

I don't know what he does and would like someone to educate me on what I am looking for when he is on the field.
 
Key forwards:

Todd & Jez > (Lord & Dixon)

Dynamic forwards:

Raz & Rioli

Defensive forwards:

DBJ & SPP > (Evans & McEntee)

How is this so difficult to figure out for some people to figure out?
Two talls just doesn't work for us. And that's because none of our ruckmen are aerial threats. If we kick it down the line then we need that 3rd tall to at least contest the ball to prevent an intercept mark.

I would also argue its a toss-up between DBJ and Evans. DBJ often goes in slow motion when he gets the ball. Evans, and to be fair, McEntee, always either make the first give or give a quick 5m before disposal.
 

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Two talls just doesn't work for us. And that's because none of our ruckmen are aerial threats. If we kick it down the line then we need that 3rd tall to at least contest the ball to prevent an intercept mark.

I would also argue its a toss-up between DBJ and Evans. DBJ often goes in slow motion when he gets the ball. Evans, and to be fair, McEntee, always either make the first give or give a quick 5m before disposal.


Well Evans kicked 3 so he will be dropped.
 
Unless you want to change our whole forward "strategy" for finals, the player Ozario is competing with is Riolli. Riolli isn't there for pressure, he's there as a typical small forward, to kick goals and pressure is a bonus. He's done pretty good at that. Finlayson is one player who we really need to get back to his form from earlier this season. His drop in form and the loss of McKenzie have had a big impact on our best team form.
This is under the assumption that Mcentee is better at forward pressure than Fantasia

What isnt true by any measure and a huge point of debate
 
Calling McEntee a pressure forward also feels like club propaganda, there's nothing that indicates he is one because his AFL stats are awful. I'm not even seeing it live. I can understand calling that for Jake Neade or Sam Gray because they actually run around like headless chickens in the forward line chasing defenders.

I don't know what he does and would like someone to educate me on what I am looking for when he is on the field.
Every now and then he gets involved with a good tackle.

But it seems more like that he gets that tackle, because he's provided so little defensive pressure over the game, that teams get caught just dawdle with the ball around him. Defenders aren't going with rushed dump kicks because they need to get rid of the ball quickly before Jed tackles them.
 
Brisbane are one of the worst teams in the AFL at defending the ground ball in their defensive 50.

It's ripe for Fantasia to come in - but I do agree with impacting the forward balance. I'd seriously consider having Fantasia as the sub - would be a weapon to bring on off the bench.
 
Two talls just doesn't work for us. And that's because none of our ruckmen are aerial threats. If we kick it down the line then we need that 3rd tall to at least contest the ball to prevent an intercept mark.

I would also argue its a toss-up between DBJ and Evans. DBJ often goes in slow motion when he gets the ball. Evans, and to be fair, McEntee, always either make the first give or give a quick 5m before disposal.
The fact our ruckmen have collectively taken like half a dozen marks all year is a considerable problem.

I think part of the reason the two talls (or even three talls) has not work consistently in the last month is that Finlayson does not play like a tall (and Lord is having no impact). Finlayson does not often lead to the ball but rather tries to make space out the back. It's why I think long term a Marshall and Mitch G. forward line is the way to go with Finlayson taking on a westhoff utility role floating around where needed. Whether that westhoff role helps the team or not is another debate.
 
Calling McEntee a pressure forward also feels like club propaganda, there's nothing that indicates he is one because his AFL stats are awful. I'm not even seeing it live. I can understand calling that for Jake Neade or Sam Gray because they actually run around like headless chickens in the forward line chasing defenders.

I don't know what he does and would like someone to educate me on what I am looking for when he is on the field.
Well bloody said
 
Yes I want to change our whole forward strategy for finals!

Our best footy hasn't been good enough historically against the best.

Against the best teams we win the i50 but can't convert.

When they get their turn they do and that's the difference.

It is a failed strategy.

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How would you change it?
 
Out: Evans, Hayes, Jonas, Duursma
In: Marshall, Lycett, Williams, McKenzie, Fantasia (sub)

Toss up whether you play McKenzie or not. Bergman is probably a better match up for Hipwood to be honest, but getting the game into McKenzie will be worth it down the road if we play a team that has three genuine forwards.

Bergman and Boak are your wings.

Jones plays back on Rayner. Very scary match up but at his best (which he has showed this season), Jones has all the athletic capabilities to play on Rayner.

Fantasia as the sub to hopefully get 5 minutes of brilliance at some stage. Or he gets an injury within 5 minutes of coming on. Either way it will be an experience.
 
Obviously McEntee is the new Pittard and Pittard was the new Hitchcock.

The coaches aren’t stupid so he’s doing something right, accept it and support the lad.
Lol

All of those examples were massive failures in periods of massive failure so i'm not sure what your point is here.
 
Lol

All of those examples were massive failures in periods of massive failure so i'm not sure what your point is here.
My point is, the conduct I saw and heard in the stands towards Hitchcock was disgusting, Pittard got close and now it’s repeating. These guys get selected, not their fault, less hate more love
 
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