Carlton have also been shit for 20 years, prepared for multiple spoons to eventually build a list like theirs?
Also, Harry McKay has about 5 seasons on Thilthorpe and didn’t kick 50 until his 7th season, what’s the point of that comparison?
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Also, Harry McKay has about 5 seasons on Thilthorpe and didn’t kick 50 until his 7th season, what’s the point of that comparison?
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I just don't see a way Dowling debuts.
He should, but all signs point to no.
He should, but all signs point to no.
- cracking, unrewarded performance in the SANFL 2wks ago
- no follow up game to back up the performance
- selection panel hubris
- a "not disgraceful" loss against a top 4 team by the senior side
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This is the perfect week to debut him.
Away game against a team that's flying. Certain loss, potentially quite ugly, which then makes him the easy omission for next week.
Nicks: "now you get it".
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This one stinks of that GC game last year I think. We won't even get close because if we ever even threaten to get a run on they'll ping us a 50 for being 1cm over the mark or some other BS.
I sometimes think we’re a 100% role oriented philosophy. We have set in stone 18 exact roles that are required for success. Form and talent are meaningless compared to how well a player theoretically perform a role. Everything about Murphy screams pressure forward.
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Re: bold above, do you think that applies only to Nicks and Co, or other AFL Coaching groups and their second team?
Dowling's bog was a stand-out imo and enough to get him a promotion.
We won't know who'll make it until we give them an AFL game, yeah? The smart thing might have been for them to drop Smith whose first 3 games were appalling, then select Dowling for say 55-60% TOG.
Do you think Burgess has said Dowling is not fit enough for AFL?
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I think you’re right. I post often that our squad is divided into mids, forwards and defenders at the start of the season.
From that point forward only defenders can replace defenders, mids replace mids and forwards replace forwards. And there is a set number of each group to be selected each week.
But I think you’re right that perhaps it is even more delineated than that. Maybe there’s tall forwards, pressure forwards and small forwards. Inside mids, outside mids and ruck. Tall defenders, medium rebounders and small lockdown defenders.
And the game plan / structure which is immovable requires a certain number of each.
The only way Dowling gets a game is through injury to some one in his sub group.
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I don't follow the other AFL teams close enough to know.
I have seen though that in cricket, club performances are disregarded. The Redbacks pay little mind to who's doing well in club cricket because they see the gap between first class and club cricket as being too big to be used as any sort of selection guide.
What that does though is render club cricket to be almost obsolete. The state squad players don't value it. They phone it in, drop out of games at every opportunity. When they play there's little care or intensity.
Which almost feeds into itself. The standard drops further as a result. The gap widens further. Becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
I think from a club culture perspective, you want good 2nds team performance to be a pathway into the 1st team. Otherwise it's a pointless exercise.
We do this with our preseasons. We are prepared to give Berry or Sholl (previously Himmelberg and Frampton) second chances based on strong preseasons. We can quibble about those individual decisions but the practice would give everyone a spring in their step in the preseason. Spots up for grabs, coaches are watching, performance and effort matters.
If Dowling had debuted on the back of his BOG game against South Adelaide (even if it was as the sub), I think this energises the reserves group, incentivises those out of the 22, puts those in the 22 on notice.
Imho there's value to this, even if internally the coaches think South Adelaide are crap and Noarlunga Oval is a million miles away from taking on Petracca and Oliver at Adelaide Oval.
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You'd hope for that.
Then Nicks reverts to type and goes with seniors, then even when they underperform he keeps selecting them.
In a strong Club, Smith would've been dropped after 3 bites at the cherry.
Interesting reply btw, thanks.
I think Nicks sees his non-preferred players as 'Break Glass in Emergency' only. Didn't even Michalanney only get his spot on the back of someone's injury? I'm not sure.
My own experiences with footy and cricket reinforces a dropped/rewarded system; again, you'd hope for that. Players in the As who are underperforming get dropped for players in the Bs who are shining.
Poor form must be held accountable, not rewarded.
You know what was disgraceful? Not giving him a go last week
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I think a Bottom-4 finish is highly likely, after the 0-4 start.
Not so much just the losses, but the way/s we've lost. Hesitant, poor skills, fumbly, disorganised, no composure. Those qualities do not change overnight.
Nicks et al seem to think they do not have to change much to achieve a lot of change.
That's rubbish.
Losers' mentality.
Yep.
Beating NM in Hobart won't be easy. Clarko is a better tactician than Nicks and most other Coaches.
WC showed some spirit and ability vs the Swans last game, too.
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If they were to debut Dowling. They would play him in a fwd pkt then drop him next week for only getting 10 touches.
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Its almost a perfect AFC way to give him a debut game this week:
-Tough away game
-A ground we haven't played well at in years
-Ensure he starts as sub to really just ensure his confidence is a bit lower
-Wait until the games gone and we are ~6 goals down mid way through 3rd quarter to give him a go. But must ensure sub another young player off like Nank or Cook etc. Absolutely NOT an underperforming 'senior' player.
-Play him out of position as a half forward with 'managed' minutes TOG
-Show him tape all week why he wasn't chasing his man and being 'defensive'
-Drop player back to SANFL and get them to watch footage all week of not 'buying into team DNA' as reason they were dropped.
This is the template/blueprint we will no doubt use for rest of year
Yep with a 50% Murphy declaring himself fit and being thrust straight back in.
We are that dumb.
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Fun fact, so far every player that has been subbed off this season has been dropped the following game.
Rd 1: Gollant (Dropped round 2)
Rd 2: Berry (Dropped round 3)
Rd 3: Pedlar (Dropped round 4)
Rd 4: Burgess......
Maybe Gollant is going to get a recall!
Rd 1: Gollant (Dropped round 2)
Rd 2: Berry (Dropped round 3)
Rd 3: Pedlar (Dropped round 4)
Rd 4: Burgess......
Maybe Gollant is going to get a recall!
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Nailed it.
It's unimaginative thinking/Coaching and eliminates any need for analysis, innovation or flair.
PerfectionIts almost a perfect AFC way to give him a debut game this week:
-Tough away game
-A ground we haven't played well at in years
-Ensure he starts as sub to really just ensure his confidence is a bit lower
-Wait until the games gone and we are ~6 goals down mid way through 3rd quarter to give him a go. But must ensure sub another young player off like Nank or Cook etc. Absolutely NOT an underperforming 'senior' player.
-Play him out of position as a half forward with 'managed' minutes TOG
-Show him tape all week why he wasn't chasing his man and being 'defensive'
-Drop player back to SANFL and get them to watch footage all week of not 'buying into team DNA' as reason they were dropped.
This is the template/blueprint we will no doubt use for rest of year
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And then blame HamishIts almost a perfect AFC way to give him a debut game this week:
-Tough away game
-A ground we haven't played well at in years
-Ensure he starts as sub to really just ensure his confidence is a bit lower
-Wait until the games gone and we are ~6 goals down mid way through 3rd quarter to give him a go. But must ensure sub another young player off like Nank or Cook etc. Absolutely NOT an underperforming 'senior' player.
-Play him out of position as a half forward with 'managed' minutes TOG
-Show him tape all week why he wasn't chasing his man and being 'defensive'
-Drop player back to SANFL and get them to watch footage all week of not 'buying into team DNA' as reason they were dropped.
This is the template/blueprint we will no doubt use for rest of year
And this is after coming on as a sub in the third qtr
It looks that way.
No other way of explaining how Parnell got a game last week.
I'm sure we are waiting for the Geelong away game to make his debutIts almost a perfect AFC way to give him a debut game this week:
-Tough away game
-A ground we haven't played well at in years
-Ensure he starts as sub to really just ensure his confidence is a bit lower
-Wait until the games gone and we are ~6 goals down mid way through 3rd quarter to give him a go. But must ensure sub another young player off like Nank or Cook etc. Absolutely NOT an underperforming 'senior' player.
-Play him out of position as a half forward with 'managed' minutes TOG
-Show him tape all week why he wasn't chasing his man and being 'defensive'
-Drop player back to SANFL and get them to watch footage all week of not 'buying into team DNA' as reason they were dropped.
This is the template/blueprint we will no doubt use for rest of year
I am wondering when Nicks starts pointing fingers and the blame game ?
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