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Originally posted by dan warna
maybe we need Mike Moore to do a hatchet job on Johnny Howard!
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There's no point. Howard is a known quantity. Everyone is aware about his lies, sneaky tactis, and back flips. He's not much different to any other politician.

Latham on the other hand seems to have a past of violence and mismanagement. If the taxi driver incident was a once off, I don't think too many people would be bothered, but once you get multiple allegations of violence, bad conduct, dodgy dealings, and possibly even wife bashing, it's a different story.
 
Originally posted by Tim56
Seems interesting, though the idea it will bring Latham down seems a bit optimistic. We will see.
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Indeed, most of the claims have been aired before. The Liverpool council stuff, the taxi driver incident, people from the area saying he is too ambitous and trod on the feelings etc. His ex-wife has allready taken her shot at him.

A lot of it can be put down to sour grapes and the rough and tumble of tough politics.

I also would be interested to see how some of the claims are reacted to in the suburbs. If someone walked into his office, said something and then copped a slap ... depending on what was said that might not actually cost him much at all. There are probably many voters who approve of challenging someone to step outside.

Bob Hawke was certainly no saint, and if anything played up his reputation as a larrikan and it worked for him.

If there are allegations of wife beating, then that will be the smoking gun. 50% of the population (at least) won't vote for a wife beater. I can remember his ex-wife making her claims but not making this one.
 
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Originally posted by MillerCHF
I guess time will tell whether I'm right or wrong but Howard is making ground in the polls and I'm almost certain Howard will win, either through Latham screwing up or Howard displaying the political genius he has become renowned for.

I very much look forward to seeing the 'Man of Steel' John Howard leading our country for another three years. He's the greatest leader we've ever had so we all (and that includes Mr. Costello although I do to some degree sympathise with the treasurer) should cherish him while he is the leader.
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Just goes to show how stupid some people to believe the devious Howard is our "best ever " PM IMO he is one of the most devisive and dishonest leaders(sic) we have ever had and the sooner he departs the better for this country.
 

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What's potentially more worrying is not the king-hit itself but that Latham is looking a bit dishonest in the way he's trying to down-play it.

Still waiting to watch the program before I form an opinion.
 
Originally posted by bunsen burner
There's no point. Howard is a known quantity. Everyone is aware about his lies, sneaky tactis, and back flips. He's not much different to any other politician.

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BB.
You?.Denigrating Howard!,have u +Tim56 had a falling out along the line somewhere?.
 
Originally posted by FuManchu
He's got my vote, anyone prepared to go a bit of Biffo is an Australian.

Now little johnny would get others to fight for him, can't see him standing up to anyone
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Assuming it is true, as you have, I would like ask what merit there is in king hitting a bloke 20 years older than you?
 
Originally posted by Bombers 2003
BB.
You?.Denigrating Howard!,
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Although I've actually stated my disagreements with some of his policies a number of times, what I posted above was just an acknowledgement that Howard does what all politicians do - lie and use sneaky tactics.

The reason I don't harp on about my disagreements with Howard policies is firstly, on the whole I think he's done a good job and secondly, I think Latham is not even close to being capable of running this country.

I prefer Howard (or Costello) much much more than Latham. That's why you have seen post anti Latham sentiment (please don't get this confused with anti ALP sentiment) rather than anti Howard sentiment. A very easy concept to understand.


have u +Tim56 had a falling out along the line somewhere?.
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Good luck finding a post where I have backed up Tim56.
 
Originally posted by BlueMark
Howard will play personality politics during this election, his blatant bribes to the electorate have not worked, the war is not helping him and he is seen as being to close to Bush by many.

So expect him to get the knife out and try some character assassination
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Right on mate. This S**t is just what you would expect from "goanna" Packer and CH9 most people with half a brain will see right through it.
 
Isn't it in the best interest of Packer and Murdoch not to have Labor in power.

The small minority that watch Sunday morning current affairs shows should see thru the Liberal desperation.

They are banking on this being the Tampa of 2004.
 
Originally posted by Tim56
Assuming it is true, as you have, I would like ask what merit there is in king hitting a bloke 20 years older than you?
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That is when Labor are at their bravest, like all lefties.

When it is an even fight they cower in their little grovelholes and point.

Latham is about to be exposed as the thug he is. Those women abuse ads arent on now for nothing.

And how he tried to explain away the assault today was absolutely disgusting and unbecoming of anyone wanting to achieve the highest elected public office.

Latham is a disgrace to Australian politics.

It is going to be one GREAT election night!:p :p :p

Three more years for you Labor sucks to complain. BEAUTIFUL!:D
 

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arrhhh well, as least last weeks victory is still in the memory, the sorbent pies pretty good combination with the a_r_s_e_h_o_l_e libs
 
Originally posted by anniswan
arrhhh well, as least last weeks victory is still in the memory, the sorbent pies pretty good combination with the ******** libs
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Maybe so but like the chardonnay set in Sydney, the ALP's ultimate victories are as frequent as Swans flags.

1933? HAHAHAHA:p
 
Can't believe how blasé some of you seem to be about allegations of violence against a man who wants to be the Prime Minister of this country. I know thuggery & violence is the norm in left-wing political circles and the union movement but this guy wants to be the PM of this country. He is not auditioning to be the latest heel on WWE SmackDown! Here we have a man who is harping on about how boys need better role models yet it seems that he feels the best way to deal with his problems is to king hit another bloke. What type of example is that? Perhaps the books he thinks we should be reading to children are "Mike Tyson's Fight Tips". If any of this is true then there is no way he is fit to be the PM of Australia.

Given the way the ALP seem desperate to defuse this ticking bomb I'll be interested to see the extent of the damage come Sunday. Say what you like about Howard, yeah he is tricky and a consumate player of the political game but I don't ever believe that he would stoop so low to try and king hit a middle age bloke. Problem is with Mark Latham I can all too readily believe it given his past form (the taxi driver incident for instance), and I reckon there will be quite a few others in swing-voter land who will as well. So what if these reports are in the Packer & Murdoch media - if he wants to be PM his character & fitness for the job have to be scrutinised. Howard cops all manner of cr*p from the ABC & the Fairfax press, it's a bit rich for ALP supporters to complain because someone has conducted a necessary examination as to whether Mark Latham is fit to be the PM.
 
Originally posted by Ray Nolan
Bullyboy claims to rock Latham

By Steve Lewis, Patricia Karvelas and Martin Chulov
The Australian July 2, 2004

THE Labor Party is bracing for fresh claims of physical violence by Mark Latham, potentially delivering John Howard a big incentive to call a snap election for August.

With the two major parties evenly poised in the polls, the allegations against the Opposition Leader, who infamously broke the arm of a Sydney taxi driver in July 2001, could be highly damaging for Labor.

The claims date back to Mr Latham's time as a local councillor and then mayor of the western Sydney Council of Liverpool from 1989-94.

Former friends and political rivals have alleged Mr Latham assaulted an older man in the lead-up to a state by-election for the seat of Liverpool in March 1989.

Mr Latham was alleged to have punched the man to the ground after he walked into the Labor campaign office and made a remark that the future Opposition leader objected to.

Other allegations, to be aired on Channel Nine's Sunday program this weekend, centre on Mr Latham's time as mayor, during which he is alleged to have repeatedly disparaged opponents and to have demanded one councillor step outside to fight him.

Mr Latham appeared nonplussed by the allegations yesterday, saying that airing them did the public a disservice because Australians were more interested in "good public policies for the future".

"They would much rather be interested in where the education system is going to be 25 months from now than what I might have done on a cricket or football field 25 years in the past," he said.

"I'm not exactly a recluse. My life is not exactly a closed book. I think people are writing six books about me. I don't think there are too many secrets, and I seem to remember in December when I got this job there was a fair bit of scrutiny on those issues."

However, senior Labor figures are privately extremely concerned the fresh claims against their leader will undermine the good work Mr Latham has done since taking over from Simon Crean.

"If they're true, they are diabolical," one Labor frontbencher told The Australian yesterday.

Rumours have circulated around Canberra for weeks of fresh allegations against Mr Latham, who has championed his own brand of family values and pledged to clean up politics since taking over the Labor leadership last December.

One Government minister told The Australian the Liberal Party was pursuing allegations that Mr Latham was involved in an incident during an earlier election that led to an unknown person breaking a collarbone.

The Prime Minister denied earlier this week that the Government was engaged in a smear campaign against Mr Latham.

But he indicated the Government would vigorously pursue Mr Latham over his tenure as mayor, amid claims he had left Liverpool Council's finances in a mess.
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If any of this is remotely true then Mark Latham is in deep sh*t IMO.
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Why??? Any leader shouldve been in a punch up and even started a punch up.. It shows balls.. It may show stupidity also.. but along with it there is passion and beleif.

Just because some bloke comes on a camera and says something.. there are always people just salviating at the lips waiting for the next piece of negative gossip.

Hawke was a CHAMP.. He got pi$$ed.. as an Aussie and a leader of Aussies should.

Give Latham a break, it's only Johnny's mate KERRY doing him a few favours.. that's all.
 
Originally posted by SaveFeriss
Why??? Any leader shouldve been in a punch up and even started a punch up.. It shows balls.. It may show stupidity also.. but along with it there is passion and beleif.

Just because some bloke comes on a camera and says something.. there are always people just salviating at the lips waiting for the next piece of negative gossip.

Hawke was a CHAMP.. He got pi$$ed.. as an Aussie and a leader of Aussies should.

Give Latham a break, it's only Johnny's mate KERRY doing him a few favours.. that's all.
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Anyone undisciplined enough to control his temper like Boofhead Latham isnt worthy of being PM.

If he was a footballer Sheedy would have dragged him for such an undisciplined act.

It doesnt show balls. Just shows he is an undisciplined moron who hasnt grown up.
 
Originally posted by MGREG
Anyone undisciplined enough to control his temper like Boofhead Latham isnt worthy of being PM.

If he was a footballer Sheedy would have dragged him for such an undisciplined act.

It doesnt show balls. Just shows he is an undisciplined moron who hasnt grown up.
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And what exacltly is so good about being 'grown up'?
 
Originally posted by SaveFeriss
And what exacltly is so good about being 'grown up'?
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Grown up in the sense that if someone upsets you the first reaction should not be physical retribution. Undisciplined.

If he resorts to violence for one comment, imagine what manner of stupid things he will do if he is PM.

Keating and Hawke will look like intelligent statesmen compared to boofhead.

He wont get there anyway, thank God.
 
Originally posted by MGREG
Grown up in the sense that if someone upsets you the first reaction should not be physical retribution. Undisciplined.

If he resorts to violence for one comment, imagine what manner of stupid things he will do if he is PM.

Keating and Hawke will look like intelligent statesmen compared to boofhead.

He wont get there anyway, thank God.
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Point taken.

I think you are right though, this will be enough to keep Howard his conniving self:mad:
 
Originally posted by Tim56
Having a beer is excellent, but, hitting blokes (as Latham seems to) or acting like a complete tosser when ****ed (as Hawke did) is just stupid.
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Lets just wait and see what is alledged on this program and make an informed assessment from that. But I make this point, its not ok to hit some one (who may have deserved it no less and yes there are occasions where it may be well within ones rights - mind you its no different than bombing the sh*it out of somewhere for no obvious or misguided reason) but its ok to keep kids in detention centres or lie to the people to save your own skin. Yes, one is physical whilst the other is emotional. he who casts the first stone......
 

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