Roast Cheating Filthy Power Found Guilty, Fined $100k, Club Facing Financial Ruin

[GROTTO]

Did caro have anything to say?

In a perfect world, where there was no conflicting interests at play here, Caro would set Karen Cornes on fire.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

what are the odds the AFL hand no meaningful sanctions down to port???

Yet if it was us...

 

[adelaidecrows]

I’m pretty surprised by Paul Marsh & the AFLPA’s position on independent medical staff

Because of course there was no decision to make.

Its not a surprise. Players don't want independent Drs at games. The reason would be simple, the threshold for the club dr to remove you from the game is much higher whereas an independent Dr would most likely make you sit out with much less evidence of anything being wrong.

 

[Klug]

I find it amazing it's Thursday night after a Saturday game, and still no update from the AFL on penalties.

Just hoping the media circus will move on the next scandal.

 

[GROTTO]

Credit to George Kramer love the adjusted title, respectful, kind and accurate.

 

[George Kramer]

Rowey “the clubs owned it, Davies has owned it, Ken has owned it”

No they haven’t dickwat, all they’ve said is the doctor made a mistake. Well what were Davies and Ken doing this whole time? Didn’t they see the incident?

 

[GROTTO]

I find it amazing it's Thursday night after a Saturday game, and still no update from the AFL on penalties.

Just hoping the media circus will move on the next scandal.

I thought the AFL may have suspended him from this weekend at least.

 

[Geoffa32]

The "invisible hand" of Cos Cardone has done its work.




For Tealsters reading, he is also the reason everyone in the media fall over themselves to say how great Ken is.





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[adelaidecrows]

20k suspended fine, something stupidly low hell we got 50k fine for Tex not wearing a mask

If all Port does is get a fine, I would implore every AFL club to simply refuse to accept player suspensions on the back of all tackles and bumps that result in any head contact either by body or the ground. I'd get the best lawyer I could and simply threaten to take the AFL to court so they have to justify in a court why a club who openly places concussed players back on the ground and subverts the concussion protocols gets let off with a fine, yet players who make contact with the head even accidentally have to pay with the threat of their careers. It simply doesn't make sense and frankly, I dont think the will have a leg to stand on.

I would suspect thats the discussions right now with the lawyers. How can they justify one thing against the other?

 

[Mattrox]

I’m pretty surprised by Paul Marsh & the AFLPA’s position on independent medical staff

Because of course there was no decision to make.

That whole take is a bunch of horse .

Gaslighting fans that an independent "umprire" could still make mistakes, while the AFL gaslight fans that their independent umpires rarely make mistakes in the game..... Gaslight us one way then gaslight us the other....

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[killtaker1993]

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Jones obviously has concussion in this photo, who the f*** wants to talk a selfie with Ken

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

When Rowe interviewed Carr yesterday he asked him 'were you surprised that Aliir came back onto the field' and his response was something along the lines of 'what are you trying to do here Rowey, get me to slip up or something?'.

It clearly touched a massive nerve.

a very basic question too

 

[SugarShane]

Rowey “the clubs owned it, Davies has owned it, Ken has owned it”

No they haven’t dickwat, all they’ve said is the doctor made a mistake. Well what were Davies and Ken doing this whole time? Didn’t they see the incident?

What apologist rubbish.

No one owned a damn thing until the media piled on. The first 24 hours afterward were all very defensive "How dare you!" type responses.

Every day that passes looks more and more like the AFL waiting for the frenzy to die down before either handing out no suspension, or merely a token slap on the wrist.

 

[cmndstab]

I’m pretty surprised by Paul Marsh & the AFLPA’s position on independent medical staff

Because of course there was no decision to make.

What a pathetic comment. Someone else might also have made a mistake, hence no point in trying to avoid making one?

Yes, because the only two options are "perfect 100% of the time" and "not perfect 100% of the time", and everybody in the latter category is equivalent apparently.

 

[Tadpole]

So was it Kenny coaching the Showdown or was he just Joshing around?

I see what you did there.

 

[treeman]

How have they been punished enough already? They haven't had any punishment handed down?

Media and supporters getting into over social media and news etc

 

[Sanders]

What a pathetic comment. Someone else might also have made a mistake, hence no point in trying to avoid making one?

Yes, because the only two options are "perfect 100% of the time" and "not perfect 100% of the time", and everybody in the latter category is equivalent apparently.

I’m particularly surprised it’s the players association CEO making this point, more than the absurdity of the position

Which is plainly absurd, but of all people to advance that point?

 

[Crow till I die]

Rowey “the clubs owned it, Davies has owned it, Ken has owned it”

No they haven’t dickwat, all they’ve said is the doctor made a mistake. Well what were Davies and Ken doing this whole time? Didn’t they see the incident?

And afterwards they asked davies what lessons have you learned from this and davies said..'don't get caught'

 

[cmndstab]

I’m particularly surprised it’s the players association CEO making this point, more than the absurdity of the position

Which is plainly absurd, but of all people to advance that point?

I figured that maybe the quote was a bit cherry-picked or out of context, so I listened to the 4 minute clip on the website. The quote is perhaps slightly unfair in its framing, but only slightly. The interviewer asked if it was time to move to independent doctors, saying "take it away from them, then there's no issues like this ever". Marsh then responded "Yeah, I think... I reckon you may be jumping too far in terms of 'no issues'. I mean, there are human beings who are there to make decisions in the heat of the moment, and you know, I'm not a doctor, but there's nothing to say that an independent doctor may not have also made the wrong decision."

He then followed it up with a bunch of weasel words about how there are "positives and negatives" and "it's a discussion we should keep having". So basically he abdicated his responsibility to actually make a point here and just said a bunch of nothing.

Actually, not quite nothing. He put forward a view that the doctors who know the players might be in a better position to assess them rather than an independent doctor, and said "that's what the doctors keep saying". But surely that's completely against what we actually want here? We don't want doctors who are going to say "Ahh good ol' Aliir, he's got a hard head, no dramas". We want doctors who are going to say "head clash? Knocked out cold? You're off mate, I don't care who you are."

 

[cmndstab]

Furthermore, I don't think it's just about whether another doctor might have made the same mistake or not.

Part of the issue here is simply the appearance that it might be motivated by the team wanting to win. In the future there's going to be a lawsuit where the plaintiff will say that the AFL had the responsibility to have independent doctors, but instead allowed doctors employed by the clubs to do the assessments despite the clear conflict of interest between long-term player safety and a desire to win today.

It's up to the AFL to be proactive on this issue, not to sit back and say "well maybe our guy would screw it up as well".

 

[George Kramer]

Ken is such a dodgy used car salesman, when questioned on could he done more:

“It’s dangerous territory when you get involved in medical and I’ll never do that”

Dickhead, that’s true if you’re trying to overrule a doctor to get a player on the ground, but he knows the concussion protocols and should have intervened given the health of his player was at risk.

 

[FR0GGY]

Ken is such a dodgy used car salesman, when questioned on could he done more:

“It’s dangerous territory when you get involved in medical and I’ll never do that”

Dickhead, that’s true if you’re trying to overrule a doctor to get a player on the ground, but he knows the concussion protocols and should have intervened given the health of his player was at risk.

A really really cool poster made this point earlier today.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

PORT can't even put on their Team Sheets ......OUT: Aliir Aliir

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(concussion protocol) , Lachie Jones (concussion protocol)

Instead, they've said "injured" .....they could have at least said "migraines"

 

[Crowboto]

That whole take is a bunch of horse

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Gaslighting fans that an independent "umprire" could still make mistakes, while the AFL gaslight fans that their independent umpires rarely make mistakes in the game..... Gaslight us one way then gaslight us the other....

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The worst thing about this is that the narrative is now along the lines of, well even an independent umpire could have made the same mistake like it was some kind of innocuous event that if you had blinked you would have missed it. Let's ignore the fact that absolutely anyone else who witnessed the clash was horrified Allir came back on and that's not even to mention the whole "migraine bullshit" they tried to pull afterwards.
It's just ridiculous.

 

[John Who]

Its not a surprise. Players don't want independent Drs at games. The reason would be simple, the threshold for the club dr to remove you from the game is much higher whereas an independent Dr would most likely make you sit out with much less evidence of anything being wrong.

BUT…
Independent doctors would at least enforce players with such head incidents to go off-field for a HIA. At least judging from all other past head clashes.