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Roast Cheating Filthy Power Found Guilty, Fined $100k, Club Facing Financial Ruin
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Exactly
Absolute bollocks they only took a $50k hit to the soft cap when we also had to for the Tex fine
FR0GGY
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Lol Chris Davies putting it back on the afl.
“They can take some learnings from what happened on the weekend”
“They can take some learnings from what happened on the weekend”
jackster83
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All I'll say is good luck to the players suing the AFL. Get the best legal team and take them for every cent they've got.
The problem with fines as a penalty is that apart from the soft-cap fines, it's all monopoly money that goes around in circles.
The 2023 soft cap is $7.2 million such that $50k amounts to a .7% reduction in the soft cap arising from this fine.
While it's hard to work out what the "right" punishment in terms of soft cap is (particularly given the offence their punishing could make it counter-productive if clubs can employ less doctors etc). I would have thought if the entire $100,000 was in the soft cap, being approx 1.4% it might feel about right.
The 2023 soft cap is $7.2 million such that $50k amounts to a .7% reduction in the soft cap arising from this fine.
While it's hard to work out what the "right" punishment in terms of soft cap is (particularly given the offence their punishing could make it counter-productive if clubs can employ less doctors etc). I would have thought if the entire $100,000 was in the soft cap, being approx 1.4% it might feel about right.
What a joke the AFL are and once again the hand out mentality permeates Power - wait 10 years and see how much the AFL are sued for by Allir and Jones [who looked more out of it than Amy Winehouse late on a Saturday]
what a farce, in a time where Owen Wright has just released a book on head injuries, John Barnes is a shadow of who he was, the Hawks lad early retirement, players being suspended for weeks on potentially dangerous tackles leading to head knocks the Filth blatantly ignore protocol in their attempt to cheat with not one but two players and they get a $100,000 fine which ultimately the AFL will pay.
it’s a poor joke.
what a farce, in a time where Owen Wright has just released a book on head injuries, John Barnes is a shadow of who he was, the Hawks lad early retirement, players being suspended for weeks on potentially dangerous tackles leading to head knocks the Filth blatantly ignore protocol in their attempt to cheat with not one but two players and they get a $100,000 fine which ultimately the AFL will pay.
it’s a poor joke.
You don't have to accept that the doctor was influenced by the club, just that it's a perception, something people could reasonably infer.
It's why, for example, the English FA has barred certain referees with known club allegiances from reffing games involving "their" club. They're not implying that the ref would be biased, just that it removes the perception of bias from the equation.
Only means something if you are already at 100% of the cap.
I doubt Port are.
AFL will just contra the fine with an increase in Port's funding.
The amount of money is headline grabbing. But in reality won't affect Port at all.
The real message is that the AFL does not care about concussion enough to truly sanction a club if it breaches, for a second offence.
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Punchy Bassett
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Where'd the Port dick disappear to?
Welp, hopefully their season continues down the gurgler, Carr moves to Richmond and coke can Ken gets another contract.
At least we might have that.
At least we might have that.
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A pissweak organisation handing down a pissweak penalty to an even more pissweak organisation. No surprises.
Punchy Bassett
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A professionally run league compared to a provincial farmers league.
Yes, as others have said, the AFL effectively ends up paying the fine. Here's what's not clear to me:
Power cops huge fine over concussion protocols error
The AFL has handed Port Adelaide a massive fine for its handling of a head clash between Aliir Aliir and Lachie Jones
www.afl.com.au
So, does the fine take the form of an actual transfer of $ from Port to the AFL, or is it a reduction in their soft cap without any $ changing hands, or is it both? I'm guessing it's both i.e. "you give us $50K and your soft cap is reduced by $50K, you don't get to pay it from any other source".
And what about the other $50K, which "sits outside the cap"? Does that mean they pay another $50K now, from any source they choose, and if they offend again they cop a $50K reduction in soft cap without any money changing hands, because that has already happened?
As for the "welfare club" thing - So, every club gets a handout from the AFL every year, some more than others for various reasons. OK. I'm wondering when that amount is determined, and when it is paid. Because you could avoid the "welfare club / AFL effectively paying the fine" thing by saying "OK, your handout was going to be $X million next year, we're going to reduce that by $100K". That would maybe remove the need to specify it comes from the soft cap, but it only works if you have transparency about what the handout amount was going to be, before the fine. Given that knowing / publishing the handout amount in advance seems unlikely, specifying that it comes from the soft cap is probably a reasonable solution.
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FR0GGY
From a cartel villa in Tuscany
Do we get some added % ?
TubbsFarquhar
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The day can't come soon enough when the class action lawsuits put the league into bankruptcy. It's clear they hardly give two shits about player's welfare.
SugarShane
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Yep. It's like me fining my son $2 of his pocket money but then buying him a Hot Wheels car anyway.
jackster83
The Feats of Strength
Yep.
Just imagine if Nick Daicos cops a head knock early on in a GF. Collingwood would be better off continuing to play him without doing the assessment. A fine is nothing if it helps you win a flag.
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So the head isn't sacrosanct now?
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Craig McCrae appears to have some integrity though. GF or not, I couldn't see Collingwood pull off a move like that. They are a much better run club than Port with much higher standards both on-field and off-field.
It fits perfectly with the majority of their supporters.
they love the old “battlers” theme.
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So mcadam bumping a player in the chest is worse than disregarding safety rules putting players health in danger. Rightio
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