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Stiller ready for tough task
By Michael Whiting
7:45 AM Wed 22 July, 2009
EMERGING Brisbane Lions tagger Cheynee Stiller says he is ready to tackle Brent Harvey if given the job in Saturday night's match against North Melbourne.
While 23-year-old Stiller has not been given the word by coach Michael Voss yet, chances are he will get the assignment against the Kangaroos' champion after a string of impressive run-with roles so far this season.
Harvey missed seven weeks through an elbow injury earlier in the season, but bounced back to his best in Sunday's draw against Richmond, gathering 31 touches and kicking two final-quarter goals to spark his team.
Stiller already has star Saint Nick Dal Santo and Geelong Brownlow medallist Jimmy Bartel as scalps this season, and kept Paul Hasleby relatively quiet last Saturday night, despite the Fremantle midfielder's 26 possessions.
''If I get the job this week that'd be another great challenge," Stiller said.
''He's a very good player and since he's come back from injury it's coincided with them playing good footy, and that's no coincidence.
''A lot of midfielders kick goals (like Harvey), so my approach for him won't change too much. He's a very quick player and that's something I have to watch.''
Stiller has played 15 of the Lions' 16 games this season and in the absence of injured Troy Selwood has become the club's number one run-with player.
He said significant gains in strength over the off-season had given him the confidence to mix it with the game's best midfielders around the stoppages.
But Stiller said playing on the likes of Carlton skipper Chris Judd had taught him plenty.
''It's a big challenge,'' he said.
''It's just about concentrating 100 per cent of the time; you can't relax for a second. When you play on blokes like Judd, if you get in the wrong position at stoppages, they get the footy or they get it to someone else and hurt you, so just concentrating has been the biggest thing.''
Stiller has 60 games under his belt, but as part of his education he said he regularly picked the brains of midfield coach Wayne Brittain and veteran midfielders Simon Black and Luke Power to add to improve his knowledge.
He said it was all part of preparing for an opponent.
''You have a look at tapes of their last couple of weeks and see how they win the footy, and if someone has played on them and done well, just see what they've done,'' Stiller said.
''Judd got the better of me which was disappointing, but I hope I've learned from that and can do a better job next time.''
But on Saturday night's match against North Melbourne, Stiller said the 10-6 Lions realised they were in for a stiff battle after travelling back from Perth.
''Whenever you play them, it's going to be physical and they'll come at you hard. They've been playing good footy, and the thing you know about North is they'll always be up and challenge you.''
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Please be ok Stiller 
he came back on
Grimreepah
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Stiller ran back with the flight of the ball to take a good mark. Ebert was charging in, tried to pull out, somewhat tunnelled him and Stiller fell awkwardly, banging his head on the ground and losing consciousness. No report or 50 metre penalty, which I think was fair enough. Stiller went off in the stretcher but came back on after the mandatory 20 minute spell.
Grimreepah
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The commentators said he had regained consciousness by the time he was being taken off.
God, Cheynee, you gave us a fright! Courageous stuff to come back on and play. You're a champion! 
So relieved to see and glad that you're ok.
So relieved to see and glad that you're ok.
yeah very courageous act by Stiller - he is a different player this year, love his commitment!
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He always had the commitment, just not the hurt factor when he was racking up his 25 possessions. Now he's got the hurt factor of taking out the opponent's best midfielder.
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Another mid range player that has blossomed under Vossy. Definate best 22 now.
God, Cheynee, you gave us a fright! Courageous stuff to come back on and play. You're a champion!
I'll probably get howled down for saying this, BUT, I honestly don't think any player (from any team) should be allowed to play again on the day, after being knocked out like Cheynee was..
After a severe knock, strong enough to render them noncompose for a little while, 20mins or so just doesn't seem long enough to judge for any after affects..
Have heard or read about people getting knocks to the head, seem alright, only to have repercussions a day or so later..
Just my opinion though..
I agree. a few years ago I knew people working in research on 'closed head injury' in sports and they were promoting caution at that time.
But of course I'm not a medico and I wasn't there, I doubt the Lions medical staff would risk serious injury.
But of course I'm not a medico and I wasn't there, I doubt the Lions medical staff would risk serious injury.
I heard from the Club later in the match that Stiller was ok and that they were just being super safe and precautionary (I think in reference to putting the neck brace on Stiller and stretchering him off by vehicle). So while it looked really bad, it may not have been as severe as it seemed. I know with head knocks, players get a physical/medical examination and well as a written one that they have to complete. If they pass both tests, they can play on. I trust the Club knew what they were doing.
I saw a segment on this on some AFL show a few years ago. When a player first joins the club, they are subjected to a variety of mental alertness and co-ordination type tests to establish a benchmark of mental agility. Then, if they are concussed, they are asked to do the same tests again. They have to at least match their previous attempts to be considered sufficiently "with it" to go back out on the field. All quite scientific!
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The ability of courageous moments like that to lift a team cannot be overstated IMO.
I just watched the replay now and as they were getting Cheynee onto the stretcher, Ash McGrath wandered over and said what I would imagine to be along the lines of "we're going to win this for you."
I also remember at the game JMac come off straight after this and seeing absolute fire in his eyes. I know those two are good mates.
I just watched the replay now and as they were getting Cheynee onto the stretcher, Ash McGrath wandered over and said what I would imagine to be along the lines of "we're going to win this for you."
I also remember at the game JMac come off straight after this and seeing absolute fire in his eyes. I know those two are good mates.
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Stiller entered the 2009 season at the crossroads of his career. His 2008 was very disappointing after many predicted he'd be the outside running midfielder that the Lions had craved since Nigel Lappin's halycon days. 2009 would therefore be a make or break year for Stiller. Whilst he hasn't probably cemented a long term career just yet, playing a possible 22 of 24 games certainly meant that his position is more secure than it was after 2008.
Stiller basically transformed his style of footy. He was previous known as a ball gathering, receiving midfielder with excellent endurance. But it was his relative weaknesses - no real speed and less than damaging disposal - which meant that his effectiveness as an outside midfielder was diluted. Coming into the 2009 season, it was obvious that Stiller had not lost any of his strongest attribute, namely running ability, but that he'd added a physical intensity that had been previously unsighted. He looked a bigger presence on the ground and it was noticeable during the NAB Cup that he was more willing to bash bodies at the contest.
After being dropped early in the season, he was used more as a tagger. He showed an ability to play on and negate a variety of types of opponents. He nullified skilled outside mids like Dal Santo, running machines like Stanton, tricky half forward types like Didak and inside mids like Bartel. In fact, in a fairly unobtrusive way, he beat or broken even with most of the opponents Voss assigned to him - a remarkable achievement for a guy not previously known for his defensive prowess. However, it was his improved physicality that enabled him to meet the challenge of playing on the comp's premier midfielders.
This was at the cost of his offensive game though. For a guy who made his reputation on racking up touches, his offensive stats went into freefall, with only 2 games of 20 possessions or more, despite being a full time midfielder.
The challenge for Stiller will be to re-invigorate his offensive game whilst still contributing to the side as its primary tagger. If Voss decides to select a specialist stopper, Stiller is probably in the pole position for selection in 2010, based on the scalps he claimed last season. Certainly, unless Selwood returns to a tagging role or someone like Rischitelli has a redefined role, Stiller doesn't have a lot of competition as a defensive mid. But clearly Voss wants more rounded midfielders who can contribute in all ways - offensive and defensive, inside and outside. If Stiller can start to win the ball again, particularly in close, he'll turn himself into a valuable commodity. Having reached the 50 game milestone in 2009, Stiller has an opportunity in 2010 to prove once and for all that he is of AFL standard.
2009 End of Season Review
Stiller entered the 2009 season at the crossroads of his career. His 2008 was very disappointing after many predicted he'd be the outside running midfielder that the Lions had craved since Nigel Lappin's halycon days. 2009 would therefore be a make or break year for Stiller. Whilst he hasn't probably cemented a long term career just yet, playing a possible 22 of 24 games certainly meant that his position is more secure than it was after 2008.
Stiller basically transformed his style of footy. He was previous known as a ball gathering, receiving midfielder with excellent endurance. But it was his relative weaknesses - no real speed and less than damaging disposal - which meant that his effectiveness as an outside midfielder was diluted. Coming into the 2009 season, it was obvious that Stiller had not lost any of his strongest attribute, namely running ability, but that he'd added a physical intensity that had been previously unsighted. He looked a bigger presence on the ground and it was noticeable during the NAB Cup that he was more willing to bash bodies at the contest.
After being dropped early in the season, he was used more as a tagger. He showed an ability to play on and negate a variety of types of opponents. He nullified skilled outside mids like Dal Santo, running machines like Stanton, tricky half forward types like Didak and inside mids like Bartel. In fact, in a fairly unobtrusive way, he beat or broken even with most of the opponents Voss assigned to him - a remarkable achievement for a guy not previously known for his defensive prowess. However, it was his improved physicality that enabled him to meet the challenge of playing on the comp's premier midfielders.
This was at the cost of his offensive game though. For a guy who made his reputation on racking up touches, his offensive stats went into freefall, with only 2 games of 20 possessions or more, despite being a full time midfielder.
The challenge for Stiller will be to re-invigorate his offensive game whilst still contributing to the side as its primary tagger. If Voss decides to select a specialist stopper, Stiller is probably in the pole position for selection in 2010, based on the scalps he claimed last season. Certainly, unless Selwood returns to a tagging role or someone like Rischitelli has a redefined role, Stiller doesn't have a lot of competition as a defensive mid. But clearly Voss wants more rounded midfielders who can contribute in all ways - offensive and defensive, inside and outside. If Stiller can start to win the ball again, particularly in close, he'll turn himself into a valuable commodity. Having reached the 50 game milestone in 2009, Stiller has an opportunity in 2010 to prove once and for all that he is of AFL standard.
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Kade Simpson was starting to get away from Stiller, and they had to switch Patfull on to him. Stiller then struggled to contain Marc Murphy. If he can't negate a player then it is probably hard to justify his spot in the team. Wouldn't surprise me to see him make way for someone else.
Agreed.
Tries hard , but I did think the same thing while watching him last night.
Seems to be a bit tentative and playing without confidence ( see when Robinson ripped the ball from his reach and goaled).
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Thought he had a pretty good game, looks like I am the only one that thought so.
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I thought he did well until Simpson was moved forward and Stiller had to play more of a defender than a run with player. Problem is Stiller isn't overly damaging himself, and if he can't play as a defender, or a forward, or contribute to the clearances work, it becomes a bit much to carry a player whose only trick is running with an opponent.
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From the commentary it did sound as if Stiller was tagging Hill, and he really tore us up. Picked up some big scalps last year yet has struggled a little this year- may be lack of continuity of senior matches, lack of confidence, or just form slump? (Taking nothing away from Hill who is a gun).
With our injuries now is the time for peripheral players to stand up and demand a spot, hopefully Stiller takes his chances.
With our injuries now is the time for peripheral players to stand up and demand a spot, hopefully Stiller takes his chances.
Stiller matching up on hill was the wrong decision. Cheynee has a massive engine and can run all day, however hill is so fast he was like a greyhound, cheynee simply doesn't have that explosive power hill does, and it meant hill was able to get away in his first 4 or 5 steps.
I think stiller showed in the 2nd half he can be a good footy player. He hit borwn and fev a number of times and has a rocket of a left foot. I still remember back to his first year when he was getting 30 possies and using the ball well...maybe the unlimited interchange, has hurt stiller as a player, as the explosively quick players are able to take breaks and recharge the batteries, and stiller will never be able to keep up with them.
I think Stiller should be in the side for the rest of the year given the injury toll, let him build confidence knowing he won't be dropped and see if he can get back to the form of old. If not, he spends next year playing in the 2's and is then offloaded at the end of 2011.
I think he might be a good playing off half back, he has a gun left foot, and generally kicks the ball long. Exactly what we need, if we push boonj forward.
I think stiller showed in the 2nd half he can be a good footy player. He hit borwn and fev a number of times and has a rocket of a left foot. I still remember back to his first year when he was getting 30 possies and using the ball well...maybe the unlimited interchange, has hurt stiller as a player, as the explosively quick players are able to take breaks and recharge the batteries, and stiller will never be able to keep up with them.
I think Stiller should be in the side for the rest of the year given the injury toll, let him build confidence knowing he won't be dropped and see if he can get back to the form of old. If not, he spends next year playing in the 2's and is then offloaded at the end of 2011.
I think he might be a good playing off half back, he has a gun left foot, and generally kicks the ball long. Exactly what we need, if we push boonj forward.
