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What a load of horse shit.
Past Chris Yarran
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He is a really good footballer and as far as I am concerned goes hard every week for his team and his club. Does he have off days and lapses? Yes. So does every other footballer in the AFL.
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Play nice thanks!
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I played nice after posters suggested late last year that Yazz needed to play like Steven Motlop.
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I feel Yarran had a great 2011 as well. I have already explained to you IMO his game did not need to improve, his consistency did. I'm yet to be convinced. Sorry you disagree. FWIW I think you are plain wrong as well.
You are correct.
We should absolutely judge Yarran on the back of one poor performance in which he played injured.
The improvements he made up to that point in time are completely and utterly irrelevant.
Delist, now - before the end of the season. In fact no - wait for trade week and see if Fremantle are interested in trading Gumbleton for him. At least Gumby is consistently something.
Ellas Ellas
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See now you're putting words in my mouth to try and make your argument stronger. I only engage in rational debate. Give me a quote when you're prepared to do so.
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See now you're putting words in my mouth to try and make your argument stronger. I only engage in rational debate. Give me a quote when you're prepared to do so.
My argument has already been stated. I've put my cards on the table with the facts as they have presented themselves.
You are arguing against the facts. That's a brave position to take when you've got absolutely nothing to back it up.
It's all on you mate. Show us what you've got. Please tell me you've got something more than saying it is an excuse to blame his below par game on an injury you don't believe he carried.
thylacine60
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Anyone would think with EE's endless - and spuriously based - moaning, we might race up the ladder quick sticks. Chasing every opinion down to prove a point results in just that. Tell me, EE, if everyone else agreed with you regarding Yazz's performances, where would you move to then? The next under performing (in your eyes) player? Does your disappointment in the team have to result in continual conflict here?
Ellas Ellas
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Okay so your opinion is now fact. Like I said, rational debate. Please don't quote me until you can provide it.
As my dad wisely told me "Son, he would start a fight in an empty house".
Ellas Ellas
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Are you saying we have no under performing players or that below par performances should not be discussed in this forum? Because I will always speak my mind. I've provided plenty of positive opinion as well, you yourself have liked a few of my posts.
Thy, how could you?
This is more serious than my lame attempt at humour on Good Call/Bad Call!
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Righto, so let's summarize what's happened here.
Yarran wasn't subbed off against the Gold Coast. Yarran wasn't under an injury cloud heading into the Geelong match. Yarran wasn't limping terribly on Friday night, in fact he wasn't hindered by injury at all.
Seemingly everyone saw it except for you. We all must be wrong!
Ellas Ellas
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I simply explained that my opinion was not just based on Friday night's performance, as you keep suggesting. I feel that I have already said Yarran needs to improve his consistency and Friday night as just an example. My opinion is not just based on Friday night's performance.
I don't think you can use Friday night as an example though. He basically collapsed at half time and was limping badly in the last quarter. If you have other examples they may support your argument better.
We saw what players can will themselves to do through sheer determination during the elimination final last year when Juddy dragged himself up off one knee and then led the team to a huge win. Maybe Yarran has been playing like that since the GC game (or whichever one it was when he was injured) and it has become too much and culminated in his performance Friday night.
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Usual male reaction to Yarran doing what he does best...
Ellas Ellas
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Was watching a few highlights last night, he basically had a chance to spoil a pass inside 50 but did not want the body contact so pulled out. That's the type of stuff I'm talking about. It had nothing to do with his 'injury' and everything to do with picking and choosing when to go. This has to be eliminated, AFL players don't have that choice, but it seems he does it anyway.
Yarran is my favourite player and I've defended him for years for this kind of thing as he was young, developing etc. I've said many a time he could/should be the best player in the comp. Until he reaches somewhere near that status I will continue to criticise for not putting in the required effort because I know with the required effort that's what he could become. No excuses now. Some people are happy with 80%. Good for them. That breeds mediocrity though, and that's what our club is ATM. The funny thing is what I'm saying is probably exactly what Mick is saying as senior coach.
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Ellas Ellas
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Never said he was a worry, just pointed out the deficiencies in his game. This is the Chris Yarran thread remember? Perhaps it should be changed to the Chris Yarran Thread 'Only Praise Welcome' and you will get what you want etsal.
Ellas Ellas
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Geez I remember Mick in his year off doing media criticised Yarran for this very thing, showing injury on the field. I guess he still does have issues then. That was Mick and not me BTW.
BIGGUS 64
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It says "Chris Yarran - the sky is the limit", suggesting that the main intent of the thread was to hail what has been an excellent season by one of our most talented players.
Yaz's season has been one of the few things that has gone right for us in 2014. I'm sure he has chinks in his armour, like most players, but that should not serve to minimise his efforts this year, or the mental battle he has won in embracing his new coach's expectations. (Remember it wasn't looking too good in that regard last year.)
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Ellas Ellas
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TBF I saw Mick's attitude as an issue last year anyway. Played him out of position then publically criticised him. IMO he is back playing at his 2011 best, with a little more maturity which I pointed out. I think the one thing that has changed is he no longer goes on those marauding runs and bounces out of defence.
Maybe mick's tough love has been the best thing for Yarran. We don't really know the individual motivators for each player, so it's a bit difficult to say that the public criticism wasn't a smart move.
Ellas Ellas
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Yeah for sure, main thing being he is back to somewhere near his previous peak performance (some may say a little better). If Mick can get him to that elite top level he's done his job but I do believe last year was an unnecessary step backwards as things stand.
