Rumour Clayton Oliver

[JackOutback]

Two things can be true at once. Adult ADHD is a legitimate thing but there can also be concerns about over diagnosis, particularly with communities forming online that frame much of their identity around it and preaching to others without qualifications. People claiming without diagnosis ‘I have ADHD because of symptoms I saw online’ is in danger of becoming the new ‘I have OCD because I like to arrange my books neatly’.

I genuinely heard someone claim attaching a song to a memory was a symptom of ADHD and not something that just about everyone does.

It’s pretty well accepted that we as a society over diagnosed young boys in the 80s and 90s. Now, with adult diagnoses surging by almost 150 per cent (some obviously exposed by the pandemic), it deserves attention.

But also, don’t be a jerk, it’s clearly a real thing and something best left to doctors.

 

[Cyclops]

We can blame Buddy and Dusty for that

That 10 year Buddy deal was league-worsening poison.

 

[WillHayward]

Vol Kano is going to erupt.

Grundy 7 year deal
Clarry 7 year deal
Darcy 7 year deal

 

[Channels]

Vol Kano is going to erupt.

Grundy 7 year deal
Clarry 7 year deal
Darcy 7 year deal

Better than 8 years.

 

[WetCrow1991]

I get what you are saying, but it really is running like wildfire atm. New apps and products appear every day. You have to be a touch cynical.

Yeah, but also, who cares?

 

[Consolaçao]

Watching this thread from afar; this is sad story if what is posted here is on the money. Amazing football talent*

*perhaps would be happier down the coast

Even easier to keep out of trouble in Adelaide!

 

[Pipefitter]

It’s actually really hard to get diagnosed with any mental illness. You need to be failing in multiple scenarios home/work/school etc. And our health system is so poor it can take literally years to just be assessed. It’s not just a quick visit to the GP.

 

[SugarHealey]

The Sorrento pub is great for snow despite being on the Mornington peninsula along with the Portsea pub.

isn't that why s price haunts the place, with ski racks on top.?

 

[Xtreme]

Better than 8 years.

Or 9

Buddy hindered rather than helped Sydney

 

[SugarHealey]

He was an absolute specimen though and worked as hard as anyone.

He must ave had his own private lab. He and freinds.

 

[RonnieRaven]

It’s actually really hard to get diagnosed with any mental illness. You need to be failing in multiple scenarios home/work/school etc. And our health system is so poor it can take literally years to just be assessed. It’s not just a quick visit to the GP.

Correct, a dr can’t prescribe you medication, diagnose you.
A good gp can note symptoms and point you in the right direction for proper help.
I was misdiagnosed and sent the wrong way on a few occasions along the way.

 

[schmuttt]

That was our argument with Grundy. Absolute professional with regard to training, and a pretty easy going character. Plus decent rucks are rare, right?

A flat sesson or two then a year out with injury and that contract was a big part of our list paralysis.

Anything more than 3 years is an escalating gamble.

Yeah that is a pretty reasonable counter point, and when you start signing up multiple guys long term it can really hurt you.

Oliver until 2030
Petracca until 2029
Brayshaw until 2028

Certainly not a great look for list management long term. Trac I think will be worth the deal but it is still a risk considering he could get hurt (Touch wood), Brayshaw may have spread money out but was never worth the length of deal he got. Oliver looked to be a rolled gold star but like you said shows the risk of throwing the deals out as we don't even know if he will play again.

 

[Lockyer24]

Biggest cretin I ever worked with had adhd. Wish I could send that campaigner to work with a few people in this thread who reckon it’s not real

 

[Tandy]

Yeah that is a pretty reasonable counter point, and when you start signing up multiple guys long term it can really hurt you.

Oliver until 2030
Petracca until 2029
Brayshaw until 2028

Certainly not a great look for list management long term. Trac I think will be worth the deal but it is still a risk considering he could get hurt (Touch wood), Brayshaw may have spread money out but was never worth the length of deal he got. Oliver looked to be a rolled gold star but like you said shows the risk of throwing the deals out as we don't even know if he will play again.

You Melbourne supporters are so harsh on Brayshaw. He's the best team man your club has. Has been willing to sacrifice his own game and do what it takes for years. He's been moved around wherever they need him and done very well everywhere. Nobody would blame him if he did take the offers elsewhere, blindly loyal.

 

[schmuttt]

You Melbourne supporters are so harsh on Brayshaw. He's the best team man your club has. Has been willing to sacrifice his own game and do what it takes for years. He's been moved around wherever they need him and done very well everywhere. Nobody would blame him if he did take the offers elsewhere, blindly loyal.

I’ve actually defended him on our board the last couple days, I just don’t think the deal we gave him was smart.

 

[Bucking Bronco]

You Melbourne supporters are so harsh on Brayshaw. He's the best team man your club has. Has been willing to sacrifice his own game and do what it takes for years. He's been moved around wherever they need him and done very well everywhere. Nobody would blame him if he did take the offers elsewhere, blindly loyal.

He's one concussion away from retirement (was reported he was considering retiring after Maynard hit him).

Giving 7 years to someone like that is a sign that the lights aren't on at MFC.

 

[spudmaster]

It’s not just a quick visit to the GP.

What's that? Never heard of it before.

 

[RUNVS]

That 10 year Buddy deal was league-worsening poison.

Buddy's contract got extended after that one ended.

 

[Tandy]

He's one concussion away from retirement (was reported he was considering retiring after Maynard hit him).

Giving 7 years to someone like that is a sign that the lights aren't on at MFC.

Everyone is one concussion away from retirement. He had been without issue for years. But in general I agree 7 years is too much. Nobody can predict the future and people can be made to look pretty stupid very quickly. Like those at Melbourne with Oliver. Never had a major injury and one of Melbourne's goats (stats wise) but now look.

 

[ferball]

My psychiatrist, psychologist, doctor and a couple books. The most notable would be Scattered Minds by Gabor Mate*

*I realise this guy will trigger a few around here, particularly on the basis of his “everything is trauma” slant. His book is still really helpful though.

Mate is okay.

Got a better head on his shoulders than alot of people.

 

[WillHayward]

Better than 8 years.

Which is better than 9 I guess?

 

[dosser]

That 10 year Buddy deal was league-worsening poison.

Buddy's contract was for 9 years. You may be thinking of the Alastair Lynch contract of 10 years that was signed in 1994 - that was the one that was ground-breaking.

 

[Pistol Night]

There what is ?

 

[Cyclops]

Buddy's contract was for 9 years. You may be thinking of the Alastair Lynch contract of 10 years that was signed in 1994 - that was the one that was ground-breaking.

Thank you for the correction.

Apologies I have been part of an off topic drift. Is Oliver taking part in training? They are back at it tomorrow I believe.

 

[schmuttt]

Thank you for the correction.

Apologies I have been part of an off topic drift. Is Oliver taking part in training? They are back at it tomorrow I believe.

Back at Casey tomorrow