That was the point. This will be exploited in the biggest game of the season if it stays as is.
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So they first fell for Kevin Bartlett's idiotic idea to reduce rotations, cause fatigue which is apparently supposed to make the game better and now we have a 23rd man used for injuries because, why? This doesn't prevent injuries, just adds a fresh man onto the ground because the team got unlucky with something that happens in every (moreso particularly contact) sport. More than once sometimes(!)
why why what does this even achieve I don't get it.
why why what does this even achieve I don't get it.
I don't think any team will be dumb enough to try and rort the rule in round 1, but I can definitely see it happening in round two or three though.
It is not supposed to achieve anything, like 90% of AFL rule changes and fiddling it will achieve nothing. But it does give the suits at head office something to do so expect more non required changes going forward. About 4 per Season is the average.
quotemokc
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Making a rule change 2 days before the season starts is a joke.
An injury is an injury, tough shit if your side is disadvantaged on the day.
An injury is an injury, tough shit if your side is disadvantaged on the day.
They wouldn't need to, if it leaked out then the medical board would investigate and potentially remove their license to practice medicine. The club would also have to sack them for committing a serious criminal offence
Is it fun that when a team has a player injured in the first quarter they will often lose the game in the last because they run out of legs? Is that how we want games decided?
It help protects the AFL from potential concussion-related lawsuits.
That is all, now you understand it.
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It doesn't matter if it is fun, it is professional sport., if Dustin Martin does his knee in the first quarter Richmond can't exactly bring in a clone.
Should the opposing team have to sub off their best player too to make it fair?
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What if a player injure himself during the warm up
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You replace him, same as before.
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Pointless argument and easily countered by 'what happens if another player is injured in the first quarter?'. Does that mean two subs should be used?
This ridiculous situation has already taken place because the two extra players added to the bench was a direct result of your argument.
Our current custodians of the game are idiots
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this was a dumb rule years back and just as dumb today
I feel for the 23rd man who misses the opportunity to develop in the reserves and is unsettled being chucked into a game at the end
the better solution would have been to sub off a player from the opposition or keep the game the same
I feel for the 23rd man who misses the opportunity to develop in the reserves and is unsettled being chucked into a game at the end
the better solution would have been to sub off a player from the opposition or keep the game the same
No, but u can at least make it 22v22 and have the game decided by the best team rather than who gets an early injury... Why is that bad exactly?
Whataboutism.
1 injury is far more likely than 2 injuries, having a sub is far better than not having one.
There is plenty of teams over footy history that have still won with a man down. It’s a massive exaggeration to yhink that a side losing a player in the first quarter pretty much means the team loses.
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That was the argument for extending the interchange, so you're actually just constructed an argument against what you're saying.
Fair effort, well done
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So what happens when another player gets injured and it becomes 22v21?
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Lucky they did it a day before then
What happens if 14 players get injured?
1 sub is better than no subs as fair as fairness from an early injury goes, whataboutism is such a dumb nonsensical argument.
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Preparation is part of the elite level. Not all injuries are soft tissue but most are, not many impact compared to hammys and calves.
The teams that draft durable, prepare durable, play durable will have less injuries.
Or maybe we can stop the game and play it again later when everyone is fit again so it's fair.
S&C is a point of difference in the modern game.
The game was always meant to be 18 v 18.
Should go full circle and make all 4 or now 5 bench players substitutes.
No rotations at all, then you have 4 or 5 players to cover injuries and make it 'fair'.
Even remove the opportunity for coaches to substitute players tactically, as if a player is 'substituted' they miss the next game.
That makes it a fair 18 v 18, and looks after the players.
I hate this new rule. AFL has always been a game of attrition, this waters it down further. It also does nothing to prevent concussion or help reduce it in any way.
The AFL has been conned by clarko and the rest of the coaches on this one.
The AFL has been conned by clarko and the rest of the coaches on this one.
The way the sub rule has been set up the team that gets an injury in the third quarter could be advantaged over the team that doesn't, makes no sense at all.
quotemokc
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Why not just have 5 interchange players then?
There is no rule you can make that a team that gets an injury is not at a disadvantage.
It’s part of footy folklore to look back with pride at times your team copped injuries during the game but still found a way to win. Only have to look at the tigers in last year’s grand final losing vlaustin and then having houli injured as well but still managing to get up. Or if the cats won they would have done it with Ablett injured. Attrition is a part of the game and this just tears away at that.
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