Collingwood and Richmond - who has the greater supporter base

[Zevon]

Just a reminder: Terms like “Minnowmond”, “Shrinkingwood”, “Dwindlewood” and the like belong on the bay, not the main board. Same goes for referring to either team as a minnow, when clearly neither fits that description.

If you see stuff like this, don’t respond with more of it. Click ‘report’ so we can deal with it.

 

[Red Bear]

Collingwood are first in attendance’s this year as well!!! Collingwood are the biggest club draw the biggest crowds! Only club to draw over 1.2 million in attendance’s during the home and away season and have done this 6 times!!

Richmond with 100,000 members yet only draw 21,000 this round!!

Hmmm something just does not add up?

Do you know whether or not Collingwood are still ahead of Richmond in the Roy Morgan polls?

 

[Tiger2709]

Positive, tell me honestly why it matters?

I see people from both sides get upset about it, but mostly Richmond supporters.

What I do love though, is how Richmond supporters want their club to be the biggest baddest of them all, but always use Collingwood for comparisons.

It doesn't matter West Coast are probably the biggest and certainly the biggest bank balance.

My sister is a mad Collingwood supporter so it's always a good argument to have, as we are obviously still the better team so no argument there

 

[LoungeLizard]

It doesn't matter West Coast are probably the biggest and certainly the biggest bank balance.

My sister is a mad Collingwood supporter so it's always a good argument to have, as we are obviously still the better team so no argument there

Look out if NSW suddenly start liking footy, your team, my team, every Vic team, won't be in the conversation.

 

[AstuteTiger]

A lot of people think because the pies have been the biggest in the past they will be forever. Both WC and Tigers have overtaken them, if the blues win this year they will as well. Eventually not having success will cost you members and pies are in a 12 year drought already.

Also quoting attendance numbers to prove the biggest club is not correct. That doesn’t show how big the club is, just how dedicated the fans are which is not the question. Over the last 5 years Richmond have also had the most attendance numbers anyway along with memberships. So not sure how anybody can say the pies are bigger than us it’s not factual.

I think without a doubt we are bigger than Collingwood. I'm not talking about casual support that means jack shit. I'm talking about supporters who pay up for memberships, attend games and are able to sell out stadiums against low-supported teams. We have done it V GWS (95K) and even North 90K+ in 2015 EF
Another good measure is we hold the highest ever home & away attendance against an interstate side 77K in 2019 V Lions at the G

No doubt pies will think they are. All good they are welcome to think that.

 

[Tiger2709]

Look out if NSW suddenly start liking footy, your team, my team, every Vic team, won't be in the conversation.

According to Roy Morgan we already aren't in the conversation with the Swannies million supporters

 

[LoungeLizard]

According to Roy Morgan we already aren't in the conversation with the Swannies million supporters

Yeah, well, who is Roy Morgan?

 

[AstuteTiger]

Yeah, well, who is Roy Morgan?

Anyone who takes Roy morgan polls seriously needs their head read.

He polls a measly 1,000+ people per state. Of course in Sydney if you get asked who you follow in the AFL it'll be umm wait for it SYDNEY, same for Brisbane. I'm not a big rugby fan but if I were surveyed I would without a doubt say Melbourne Storm

 

[LoungeLizard]

Anyone who takes Roy morgan polls seriously needs their head read.

He polls a measly 1,000+ people per state. Of course in Sydney if you get asked who you follow in the AFL it'll be umm wait for it SYDNEY, same for Brisbane. I'm not a big rugby fan but if I were surveyed I would without a doubt say Melbourne Storm

LMAO.
You sound like it upsets you.

Who cares.

 

[AstuteTiger]

LMAO.
You sound like it upsets you.

Who cares.

Lol lol lol no you did ask who is Roy Morgan and I explained who and what their surveys are about. Agree but some do care, I take their surveys with a grain of salt that was the premise of my post. Well, there is one pies poster who brings up roy morgan's surveys a lot like they actually mean something.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

coming from a different angle here but i know with my friends from various countries they support collingwood based on the colours of the soccer team they or their parents supported in the old country

Black & White are popular colours in the Soccer world

 

[gopies1981]

Lol Richmond has topped the attendances 4 out of the last 6 years (2020 no crowds). And this year is only halfway pies and tiges top 2.
Enough already with your ridiculous 1.2 million season average. This is what I mean about season averages, the fixture is everything about who you play and on what ground and on what day. Weather etc

Now, didn't your mob draw 25K v eagles who bring 3-5K of their own supporters on a Sat arvo? Doesn't quite add up with your 85K+ members.
Thursday night footy is shit for workers, school students and regional supporters, you know that but a hater will always be a hater.
Btw Richmond and Carlton have played 3 Thursday night games each this year. Pies ZERO

If you're so big why couldn't you sell out a stadium in two finals against GWS, we did it V GWS 95K. In 2018 PF we dwarfed your pies at the G and I will say I haven't had even 1 pie supporter dispute this because you can't argue the unarguable, it was a yellow and black house.

Collingwood played west coast at marvel stadium Richmond played at the mcg.

Collingwood have played the two biggest crowds this year. Just saying and statistics proves this Collingwood is the biggest drawing club in the afl!! Richmond can claim to have 100,000 members but when only 20% only turn up these figures just don’t add up!!

And on Monday Collingwood will be involved in another 80,000 crowd yet again.

Not to mention that Collingwood are actually 9.2 million ahead of Richmond in total home and away attendance’s considering Richmond had a 35 year advantage of play there home games at the mcg whilst Collingwood was still at Victoria park which had a capacity of 28,000 shows how far Collingwood are really ahead of the pack!!

 

[AstuteTiger]

Collingwood played west coast at marvel stadium Richmond played at the mcg.

Collingwood have played the two biggest crowds this year. Just saying and statistics proves this Collingwood is the biggest drawing club in the afl!! Richmond can claim to have 100,000 members but when only 20% only turn up these figures just don’t add up!!

And on Monday Collingwood will be involved in another 80,000 crowd yet again.

Not to mention that Collingwood are actually 9.2 million ahead of Richmond in total home and away attendance’s considering Richmond had a 35 year advantage of play there home games at the mcg whilst Collingwood was still at Victoria park which had a capacity of 28,000 shows how far Collingwood are really ahead of the pack!!

Geez, are you bloody serious you played the eagles on a Sat arvo, we played on a work night with work and school the next day. Man, it's hard for you to accept what everyone else understands, Thursday nights are damn hard for workers, families, and regional supporters, do I need to go on.

Come on you're better than this. Anzac day is the biggest day on the calendar. It's played on a public holiday. I'm not saying anymore on this.

Awesome, I hope you get 80K that's the difference between you and me, you hope when the tiges play we don't get a lot through the gate. This is for a good cause and I hope you fill the stands. Btw you are playing on a public holiday and both teams are up and about. What's your point?

This just shows you have been more consistent than Richmond over a long period of time. We were 35 years in the abyss. Your mob was still playing finals and making grand finals but not winning them that we know (well 1990 and 2010) but playing finals regularly means you're getting more through the gate over a long period of time.

You had two bites of the cherry to sell out the MCG and you failed on both counts V GWS, we had one and sold it out completely V GWS.
Anyways, you have your thoughts and your criteria that's the beauty of free speech and I have mine which is different. I see it as more able to sell out a stadium against minnows like GWS and North 90/95k and having the biggest attendance against an interstate side ever, 77K V lions at the G.
That's my definition of the biggest, meaning the biggest can fill a stadium when presented with the opportunity which we have proven to do.

 

[gopies1981]

Geez, are you bloody serious you played the eagles on a Sat arvo, we played on a work night with work and school the next day. Man, it's hard for you to accept what everyone else understands, Thursday nights are damn hard for workers, families, and regional supporters, do I need to go on.

Come on you're better than this. Anzac day is the biggest day on the calendar. It's played on a public holiday. I'm not saying anymore on this.

Awesome, I hope you get 80K that's the difference between you and me, you hope when the tiges play we don't get a lot through the gate. This is for a good cause and I hope you fill the stands. Btw you are playing on a public holiday and both teams are up and about. What's your point?

This just shows you have been more consistent than Richmond over a long period of time. We were 35 years in the abyss. Your mob was still playing finals and making grand finals but not winning them that we know (well 1990 and 2010) but playing finals regularly means you're getting more through the gate over a long period of time.

You had two bites of the cherry to sell out the MCG and you failed on both counts V GWS, we had one and sold it out completely V GWS.
Anyways, you have your thoughts and your criteria that's the beauty of free speech and I have mine which is different. I see it as more able to sell out a stadium against minnows like GWS and North 90/95k and having the biggest attendance against an interstate side ever, 77K V lions at the G.
That's my definition of the biggest, meaning the biggest can fill a stadium when presented with the opportunity which we have proven to do.

100,020 in the capacity of the mcg so Richmond actually have not filled out the stadium. Collingwood has 2018 grand final.

Plus fly home ang away games Collingwood had played in front of more 90,000 crowds then any other club.

 

[AstuteTiger]

100,020 in the capacity of the mcg so Richmond actually have not filled out the stadium. Collingwood has 2018 grand final.

Plus fly home ang away games Collingwood had played in front of more 90,000 crowds then any other club.

I'm not talking about GF's, grand finals are pretty much always sold out, you might get a handful not attend.
I'm talking finals, rich v gws (PF) it was sold out no more tickets available, 95K, not all MCC rolled up.
As stated our views and criteria on who is the biggest differ, so I see no point in going back and forth, ill be leaving it there.

Just to clarify, MCG capacity is 100,024

100,022	2018 AFL Grand Final, West Coast Eagles v Collingwood
100,021	2017 AFL Grand Final, Richmond v Adelaide Crows

 

[staffonly]

Who cares. Collingwood are the first AFL franchise. Basically gifted a dream draw for the last 30!years.

 

[windyhill]

Holy **** ! Another one ! South of the Yarra , in you go mate...

 

[A Diakos]

all 5 clus in Vic have big supporter bases

pies tigers dons blues hawks

Geelong also has strong support but is a little behind the 5

what order can be argued for the 5

Ive always suspected the Richmond is #1 ahead of Collingwood

the margins are small.... They all have strong support but the Tigers for me are ahead of Pies

 

[UKbuddy]

all 5 clus in Vic have big supporter bases

pies tigers dons blues hawks

Geelong also has strong support but is a little behind the 5

what order can be argued for the 5

Ive always suspected the Richmond is #1 ahead of Collingwood

the margins are small.... They all have strong support but the Tigers for me are ahead of Pies

The big 4 pissing contest has been spoken about for decades and will continue to be spoken about for decades to come. Passionate fans loving their footy.
All massive clubs. On the magpies had they won half of their grand final appearances they could've been well ahead of the pack, everyone loves a winner.

The tigers 2017 triumph had awoken a dormant supporter base and with multiple premierships to follow it seems to have brought in a new legion of fans.

The hawks with success in the 80's, 90's and 2000's has seen their supporter base double in size. I do believe it will grow even further in the next 10-20 years due to their 3 peat.

The blues fans seem hungry and their numbers are rising, if they are able to achieve real success who knows what they are capable of.
The bombers fans have been resilient in trying times but we did see what they are capable of attendance wise in the late 1990's to early 2000's.

In terms of the order, same, i have tigs first, then pies, bombers, blues and hawks.

 

[Grockadoc]

Lol. Collingwood DO NOT have higher attendances this year than Richmond.

On average, Richmond have a higher home attendance (by 11,000). Pies do have a higher away attendance, but overall, Richmond are ranked 1st in THE AFL for match attendances, both home and away. Collingwood in second.

Higher attendances, more members. Richmond are a bigger club right now.

 

[HTT]

Actually Collingwood have 777,000 fans around Australia. Richmond 563,000.

Membership at the moment has Richmond 98,000 and Collingwood 86,000!

Attendance’s at the moment have Collingwood leading and still Collingwood is the only club to have drawn over 1.2 million people during the home and away season. Actually the pies have achieved this on 6 occasions in 2007, 2008, 2010 (record 1,306,604), 2011, 2012 and 2019! Richmond’s highest was in 2018 with 1,194,000!

According to Roy Morgan Sydney are the biggest club in the AFL

 

[beema limapep]

Actually Collingwood have 777,000 fans around Australia. Richmond 563,000.

Membership at the moment has Richmond 98,000 and Collingwood 86,000!

Attendance’s at the moment have Collingwood leading and still Collingwood is the only club to have drawn over 1.2 million people during the home and away season. Actually the pies have achieved this on 6 occasions in 2007, 2008, 2010 (record 1,306,604), 2011, 2012 and 2019! Richmond’s highest was in 2018 with 1,194,000!

If Collingwood have more fans (as you say), but never turn up, never buy memberships and probably rarely watch a game on TV, are they really 'fans'?

I'm tipping their club is a pretty low priority in life. Some people like playing billiards, working on their camira or hunting more than a footy club.

 

[Red Bear]

According to Roy Morgan Sydney are the biggest club in the AFL

Sydney have the highest TV ratings so Roy Morgan is probably right.

 

[juss]

With no real way to prove it, I'd say Collingwood nation wide. But it's kind of irrelevant, both have large supporter and membership bases, with the ability to rack up big crowds when they can be ****ed.

If anyone really gives a shit about this though, you really need to get a life.

 

[Red Bear]

With no real way to prove it, I'd say Collingwood nation wide. But it's kind of irrelevant, both have large supporter and membership bases, with the ability to rack up big crowds when they can be ducked.

If anyone really gives a shit about this though, you really need to get a life.

Richmond being first to get a million through the gates in a season must count for something.

 

[Daka]

I think we are probably have the most diehard supporters.
We're probably competing still for who is actually has the "biggest" recent times would say us but probably even overall.
West Coast are easily the 3rd biggest club no one comes close imo.