Autopsy Collingwood: Where to from here?

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2019 lol. Richmond won the Grand Final with a percentage of 456%. Against a team who beat Collingwood the week before despite having several key players missing & playing on Collingwood's home ground.

Precisely what do you think Collingwood were in contention for?
Wow, that's huge. Not sure...

Fact check. Richmond 2019 113.7

Oh, your just making shit up. OK I can do this game as well.

Adrian Fletcher is the best midfielder to have ever played a game at 300kw per rounds.
 

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Wow, that's huge. Not sure...

Fact check. Richmond 2019 113.7

Oh, your just making shit up. OK I can do this game as well.

Adrian Fletcher is the best midfielder to have ever played a game at 300kw per rounds.
Yeah, Richmond finished 3rd with a percentage of 113.7.

But because they belted their eventual Grand Final opponents, noone else was ever going to get near them in 2019...

(In the world according to Meteoric Ruse).
 
Wow, that's huge. Not sure...

Fact check. Richmond 2019 113.7

Oh, your just making shit up. OK I can do this game as well.

Adrian Fletcher is the best midfielder to have ever played a game at 300kw per rounds.
Guy lives in a parallel universe which began in 2017 and froze in 2020

So much banter entering this thread, pity it's not moderated as strictly as the Carlton one

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Guy lives in a parallel universe which began in 2017 and froze in 2020

So much banter entering this thread, pity it's not moderated as strictly as the Carlton one

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oh, if the Carlton mods were in here there would be 8 posts.

hahahaaa
 
Oldest 22 in league history next year. They're cooked
Yeah, because the oldest teams in the competition have had terrible records in recent times, starting with Geelong in 2022 and Collingwood in 2023.

But it's better to be a perennially average aged list and be a mid table team, with potential to contend for a premiership in 2 to 4 years...
 
They’ll be tough to beat again but I’m not sure they have the ‘ vitality’ for want of a better word to go all the way again

Brissy getting that bump in output by their handful of young players seemed to put them over the top this year and getting all those injured player back will be great depth as they filter back into the team

Pies will be fine long term though , those inherent advantages of being a big ticket MCG team aren’t going anywhere


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I feel like De Goey is the key for Collingwood. There's too much quality for them not to be a solid team but the question is real star quality in midfield.

Pendlebury, Mitchell and Crisp are aging. Josh Daicos is good but probably more suited to a wing. If De Goey isn't at his best it leaves a huge amount on the shoulders of N Daicos.

Can Quaynor transition into midfield now they've picked up Houston?
 
Wow, that's huge. Not sure...

Fact check. Richmond 2019 113.7

Oh, your just making shit up. OK I can do this game as well.

Adrian Fletcher is the best midfielder to have ever played a game at 300kw per rounds.

Except Richmond did win the GF with a percentage of 456% in 2019.

Richmond 114 v GWS 25.

114/25 = 4.56

Ergo a GF percentage of 456%.

How embarrassing for you.
 
I feel like De Goey is the key for Collingwood. There's too much quality for them not to be a solid team but the question is real star quality in midfield.

Pendlebury, Mitchell and Crisp are aging. Josh Daicos is good but probably more suited to a wing. If De Goey isn't at his best it leaves a huge amount on the shoulders of N Daicos.

Can Quaynor transition into midfield now they've picked up Houston?
This is a good call, and I feel a big reason we brought in Perryman in the hope he can play an inside mid role.

He doesn't have to be a superstar in that role, but if he can complement the other mids and allow Nick to play more of an outside role, it will be a big positive.

Remember, we didn't have Mitchell for most of last year, so anything we get out of him is upside.

N. Daicos
De Goey (missed 10 games in 2024)
Crisp
Pendlebury
Mitchell (missed 16 games in 2024)
Perryman (new in 2025)
Lipinski

With J. Daicos and Sidebottom on the wings is a decent on ball brigade, with plenty of versatility.

We'd also be hoping one or two of our young guys will be stepping up to play regular midfield minutes.
 
Howe is a very bad call. Played outstanding footy in defence some weeks and chopped out when we were struggling forward. Cox would get a gig on every list in the comp as a depth ruck. Both very deserving of contracts for 2025.

Happy to revisit this at the mid season bye.

My tip is Cox will not have step foot on an AFL venue. His spot should have been used in the draft, considering the lack of quality young players on the list.
 

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Happy to revisit this at the mid season bye.

My tip is Cox will not have step foot on an AFL venue. His spot should have been used in the draft, considering the lack of quality young players on the list.
Really?

Take a risk on a pick 80 in the draft who will likely never step foot on an AFL field, or get what we've been getting from Cox over the last couple of years as a best 22 player, primarily a back up ruck, but also someone who can take the occasional clunk around the ground.

In a year where we are expecting to contend for the premiership.
 
Really?

Take a risk on a pick 80 in the draft who will likely never step foot on an AFL field, or get what we've been getting from Cox over the last couple of years as a best 22 player, primarily a back up ruck, but also someone who can take the occasional clunk around the ground.

In a year where we are expecting to contend for the premiership.
Lol Cox gets written off EVERY YEAR

Probably need to watch him every week to appreciate what he brings, it's subtle

Still improving too

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Except Richmond did win the GF with a percentage of 456% in 2019.

Richmond 114 v GWS 25.

114/25 = 4.56

Ergo a GF percentage of 456%.

How embarrassing for you.
I'm actually agreeing with you.

Adrian Fletcher's last game r 22 V Adelaide, he had 33 possessions.

Extrapolate that over a 15 year career is 4725.

He's clearly the best player to have ever played the game.

See how this works?
 
So seeing Carlton make the changes they did, which clearly weakened their list, whilst seeing Collingwood clearly strengthen their list, is 'merely an opinion'?

Carlton:
Out: Owies, Kennedy, Martin, Pick 12, F1, F2
In: Haynes, pick 3

Oh boy..
you always seem to forget little details in your rebuttal
Carlton also received pick 38 for Kennedy from the bulldogs , on top of 2 x 4th selections for Owies which will go towards the points requires to select both Camporeale boys.
Not sure why you think Carlton got nothing in return for Owies and Kennedy ?
 
you always seem to forget little details in your rebuttal
Carlton also received pick 38 for Kennedy from the bulldogs , on top of 2 x 4th selections for Owies which will go towards the points requires to select both Camporeale boys.
Not sure why you think Carlton got nothing in return for Owies and Kennedy ?
Oh, how could I possibly overlook pick 38 and 2 x 4th round selections?

I'll have to reassess now, that's a game changer.
 
I'm actually agreeing with you.

Adrian Fletcher's last game r 22 V Adelaide, he had 33 possessions.

Extrapolate that over a 15 year career is 4725.

He's clearly the best player to have ever played the game.

See how this works?

My post, whilst mentioning Richmond, was specifically about whether Collingwood were realistically in contention for 2019 flag.

So you are way off track, because Adrian Fletcher getting 33 possessions in a game of football has absolutely nothing to do with this thread topic or my post.

But don't let me interfere with you displaying your stupidity for all to see, you are doing a great job of it. ;)
 
My post, whilst mentioning Richmond, was specifically about whether Collingwood were realistically in contention for 2019 flag.

So you are way off track, because Adrian Fletcher getting 33 possessions in a game of football has absolutely nothing to do with this thread topic or my post.

But don't let me interfere with you displaying your stupidity for all to see, you are doing a great job of it. ;)
You're suggesting Collingwood weren't a contender for the 2019 flag despite:
Finishing in 4th position on the ladder after the home and away rounds - a game behind Richmond but with a superior percentage;
Beating Geelong in the Qualifying Final to go straight through to the Preliminary Final;
Going 1:1 against Richmond during the season;
Losing the Preliminary Final by 4 points.

WilloTree's post about Adrian Fletcher is precisely as silly as your suggestion that Richmond's GF percentage of over 400 meant they were so far ahead of anyone else that year, there were no other contenders.
 
You're suggesting Collingwood weren't a contender for the 2019 flag despite:
Finishing in 4th position on the ladder after the home and away rounds - a game behind Richmond but with a superior percentage;
Beating Geelong in the Qualifying Final to go straight through to the Preliminary Final;
Going 1:1 against Richmond during the season;
Losing the Preliminary Final by 4 points.

WilloTree's post about Adrian Fletcher is precisely as silly as your suggestion that Richmond's GF percentage of over 400 meant they were so far ahead of anyone else that year, there were no other contenders.

Richmond weren't "so far ahead of ayone else that year," the Prelim v Cats showed that - though the Tigers held a comfortable margin. But had Collingwood by some chance won their home PF against a badly weakened interstate team there would have been a father of a hiding waiting for them 1 week later. The GF showed that. Collingwood beating a Richmond during a typical slow early season period in rd 2 does absolutely nothing to change that. Richmond won its final 12 matches in 2019 with some obscene % & conceded just 20 goals in 3 finals(Richmond kicked 47.) Collingwood - who scored 3 goas to 3/4 time in the PF were never getting near that. You are dreaming. Collingwood lost 5 of their last 11 matches, 3 of those by conclusive margins above 5 goals, including 5 goal + losses to both Grand Finalists.

In contention, lol.
 
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