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The Dingrel said:
I like it Hatchy, ultimately hugely influential on creating democratic rights, celebrates the southern cross, and sticking it to the "man".....ultimately a celebration of our egalitarian society, and multi culturalism.
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I hadn't considered the democratic part of it when thinking about it, but that was ultimately a huge influence on the make-up of our country.
 

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Makeshift Park said:
If it does get done, I imagine the costs will be split between state and federal governments as well as private equity.
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Who's providing private equity (AFL aside) based on project cost, likely cost over runs, and limited returns based on the size of Tassie/Hobart population???? If you find out, can you please let me know, I guarantee I can generate a much better financial return, risk free as well!
 
Gorman2Geister said:
Jy thinks it will, Wardlaw and LDU are not so sure (a picture tells a thousand words).
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Jy knows we have LDU, George and Sheez in there! Luke and George realise it’s on their shoulders…
 
Hatchy1992 said:
I hadn't considered the democratic part of it when thinking about it, but that was ultimately a huge influence on the make-up of our country.
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The Eureka Stockade was fundamental in the development of "universal" suffrage, ie the right of everyone (well every bloke anyway) to vote regardless of whether they held property or not. It then led on to proper universal suffrage.
 
DuckYeah said:
Until one lefty owns him. He was rather upset after Tanuki takedowns.

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I'd be upset too if i had a designer guinea pig stapled to my face.
 

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ferball said:
The Eureka Stockade was fundamental in the development of "universal" suffrage, ie the right of everyone (well every bloke anyway) to vote regardless of whether they held property or not. It then led on to proper universal suffrage.
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True, it's not the birth of western style liberal democracy but it was a very important touchstone.
 
DuckYeah said:
Not that Isaac campaigner. He is the least funny campaigner in Australia. Anyone who listens or laughs at that campaigner needs a swift kick up the arse
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I’d like to see anyone on this forum try to kick me.
 
The Dingrel said:
I like it Hatchy, ultimately hugely influential on creating democratic rights, celebrates the southern cross, and sticking it to the "man".....ultimately a celebration of our egalitarian society, and multi culturalism.
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The only problem is one particularly part of society taking the Eureka flag as an emblem… which has ruined its connotations as a beacon for universal labour rights
 
Dan said:
I’d like to see anyone on this forum try to kick me.
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krakouers said:
The only problem is one particularly part of society taking the Eureka flag as an emblem… which has ruined its connotations as a beacon for universal labour rights
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It's been usurped by two different parts of society - right wing neo nazi / white nationalists as well as left wing building unions. The unions arguably had a connection to the original purpose (although that's flimsy despite what Kevin Sheedy says). You could just as easily argue that the stockade was a rebellion by small, independent business owners demanding no taxation without representation. The nazis are kidding themselves if they think the original protest had anything to do with their idiotic cause.

It's a shame because it's a beautiful flag and would make an ideal national flag for the independent sovereign nation of Victoria.
 
Frank Thring said:
We only need to go back to Albo, an absolute joke of a PM
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It's weird that we get into these arguments over whether the current Labor PM or the most recent Liberal PM is the worst PM ever. What are the odds that it would come down to those two? Recency bias clearly plays into this just as it does with any football conversation about greatest ever. But on raw data or historic failings, it's challenging to mount a case against either one of these peanuts being worst ever. Neither one completely tanked the economy, put us into recession, or got us into a foreign war with no exit strategy.
 
The Brady Bunch said:
It's weird that we get into these arguments over whether the current Labor PM or the most recent Liberal PM is the worst PM ever. What are the odds that it would come down to those two? Recency bias clearly plays into this just as it does with any football conversation about greatest ever. But on raw data or historic failings, it's challenging to mount a case against either one of these peanuts being worst ever. Neither one completely tanked the economy, put us into recession, or got us into a foreign war with no exit strategy.
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Because only our dear Horace can say whether Alfred Deakin was the worst
 
The Dingrel said:
Who's providing private equity (AFL aside) based on project cost, likely cost over runs, and limited returns based on the size of Tassie/Hobart population???? If you find out, can you please let me know, I guarantee I can generate a much better financial return, risk free as well!
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Private capital firm Plenary Group confirms interest in funding Hobart's Macquarie Point AFL stadium - ABC News

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Go wild my friend.

I wouldn’t be surprised if, between two branches of govt, in an election year, they’ll eventually get enough sweeteners to make it worthwhile.
 
The Brady Bunch said:
It's been usurped by two different parts of society - right wing neo nazi / white nationalists as well as left wing building unions. The unions arguably had a connection to the original purpose (although that's flimsy despite what Kevin Sheedy says). You could just as easily argue that the stockade was a rebellion by small, independent business owners demanding no taxation without representation. The nazis are kidding themselves if they think the original protest had anything to do with their idiotic cause.

It's a shame because it's a beautiful flag and would make an ideal national flag for the independent sovereign nation of Victoria.
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Its funny that cos the leader of the uprising turned out to be a bit of a toff campaigner. Well at least according to some people. Definitely an interesting guy.
 

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