Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.

[VineValerian]

Lol they reduced the crowd to 20k after only 13k showed up for the cows. It’s happening.gif

They probably saw problems in social distancing at food outlets and escalators on the way out.
Was probaly exacerbated due to them taking observations at 3 quarter time, when the bulk of fans were leaving

 

[OneGreatClub]

These are weird times

 

[Capital Power]

These are weird times

They did the same analysis of the sewage system here in the ACT a few weeks ago and detected no evidence of the virus. I assume that may have now changed although the cluster from the campaigners from Victoria seems to have been contained. We just have an outbreak of bikie murders instead...

 

[Canoogs]

Lol they reduced the crowd to 20k after only 13k showed up for the cows. It’s happening.gif

Rubbish. They can't get in the full amount they would otherwise because of AFL restrictions to create the "bubble" (i.e. first 2 rows blocked off, and extra seats around interchange benches and coaches box). 25k is a number that media threw around because of the 50% capacity comment. Was never going to be that much, as standing, hill area and grassed areas all continue to be out of bounds.

 

[GremioPower]

When are the AFL releasing them in official team colours?

Wait! They don't have it yet!?

 

[GremioPower]

They did the same analysis of the sewage system here in the ACT a few weeks ago and detected no evidence of the virus. I assume that may have now changed although the cluster from the campaigners from Victoria seems to have been contained. We just have an outbreak of bikie murders instead...

There has been news saying that the virus had been detected in sewers in NOVEMBER here.

 

[raptalia]

I cannot see why in a nation with high unemployment we rely on people with overseas Visas to perform seasonal work. What is wrong with some suitable Job Seeker recipients working for the dole? I can see why people on visas would be considered high risk but there are alternatives. Send the backpackers back to whereever they come from and use Australia's unemployed youth to get the produce in.

Seasonal workers deemed 'high-risk spreaders' of COVID-19, banned from NSW

Overseas seasonal workers on a visa have been locked out of New South Wales under tighter border restrictions introduced last night.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Del165198]

I cannot see why in a nation with high unemployment we rely on people with overseas Visas to perform seasonal work. What is wrong with some suitable Job Seeker recipients working for the dole? I can see why people on visas would be considered high risk but there are alternatives. Send the backpackers back to whereever they come from and use Australia's unemployed youth to get the produce in.

Seasonal workers deemed 'high-risk spreaders' of COVID-19, banned from NSW

Overseas seasonal workers on a visa have been locked out of New South Wales under tighter border restrictions introduced last night.

www.abc.net.au

When I was an unemployed teenager I looked into doing it for a bit. The problem with it is you get paid absolute trash and the location is inevitably a long way away in the countryside somewhere. By the time you factor in your travel/fuel costs to get out there (bear in mind a lot of unemployed may not have their own vehicle) it wasn't worth it, especially considering as soon as you start earning anything, you get less from jobseeker. So those first few hundred bucks are chewed up or you're working for about $2 an hour. Adding because it's seasonal, you might get a few weeks work and then nothing. In that time, you've maybe earned a couple of hundred bucks but had zero chance to look for an actual real job that would help you with your future, only now you've got a bad back as well.

 

[raptalia]

When I was an unemployed teenager I looked into doing it for a bit. The problem with it is you get paid absolute trash and the location is inevitably a long way away in the countryside somewhere. By the time you factor in your travel/fuel costs to get out there (bear in mind a lot of unemployed may not have their own vehicle) it wasn't worth it, especially considering as soon as you start earning anything, you get less from jobseeker. So those first few hundred bucks are chewed up or you're working for about $2 an hour. Adding because it's seasonal, you might get a few weeks work and then nothing. In that time, you've maybe earned a couple of hundred bucks but had zero chance to look for an actual real job that would help you with your future, only now you've got a bad back as well.

That doesn't mean you can't still do the work and get paid the dole plus a bonus. As for going away from home when I was a teenager it happened that many of us got a two year holiday from home at Government expense. No one is asking anyone to go away for two years, just a couple of months of paid work and accommodation. You never know it might also show prospective employers that some people are prepared to work.

 

[raptalia]

There has been news saying that the virus had been detected in sewers in NOVEMBER here.

Some Italian researchers found traces of corona virus in sewerage samples taken in Milan and Turin a month back. Apparently they dated it to early December 2019. This throws suspicion upon the date that the virus was supposedly first detected in China. Maybe the virus was evident but mis diagnosed as unseasonal influenza?

Italy sewage study suggests COVID-19 was there in December 2019

Scientists in Italy have found traces of the new coronavirus in wastewater collected from Milan and Turin in December 2019 – suggesting COVID-19 was already circulating in northern Italy before China reported the first cases.

www.news.com.au

 

[bomberclifford]

When I was an unemployed teenager I looked into doing it for a bit. The problem with it is you get paid absolute trash and the location is inevitably a long way away in the countryside somewhere. By the time you factor in your travel/fuel costs to get out there (bear in mind a lot of unemployed may not have their own vehicle) it wasn't worth it, especially considering as soon as you start earning anything, you get less from jobseeker. So those first few hundred bucks are chewed up or you're working for about $2 an hour. Adding because it's seasonal, you might get a few weeks work and then nothing. In that time, you've maybe earned a couple of hundred bucks but had zero chance to look for an actual real job that would help you with your future, only now you've got a bad back as well.

In between high school and uni, (circa 1986) me and two mates travelled to Loxton and Renmark to do fruit picking for a few weeks. We were paid cash in hand and came back to Adelaide fit, tanned, and with fatter wallets than when we left.

I also worked in an automotive parts factory drilling holes in grease nipples, as a night fill at a cash and carry during week nights, a swimming instructor on Saturday mornings, and in a timber yard unpacking and repacking lengths of timber in the hot summer sun. For a brief while I worked in the toy dept at Myers over a few Christmases and one year did a Xmas stint at Body Shop Tea Tree Plaza.

In the time I had these jobs, I managed to matriculate, get a degree, get a job interstate, lose job interstate to become unemployed, did freelance work where I could, started a business and wound it up, before finally getting the job that would become my career.

At no point in time did I calculate whether it was better or not to be on the dole because it was clear to me even at that age that it was better to be working and earning a living than the alternative.

I get that times are different, and not everyone is the same, but surely working is better than not working and building a strong work ethic is in the best interests of the individual as well as the collective.

 

[pastmyprimus]

The Australia Institute of Health and Welfare (AIHW) has undertaken an analysis of people who've died from covid-19. Plus Victoria's Chief Health Officer has stressed that people in younger age groups are at risk of dying or getting very sick.

AIHW deputy chief executive Matthew James said there was "a perception that the majority of COVID-19 deaths are among people who did not have a long expected lifespan prior to developing the disease". But data shows the patients who died had lost more years of their expected lifespan than those who died of Australia's three leading causes of death: coronary heart disease, dementia and stroke.

New data on the first four months of the coronavirus pandemic in Australia shows the disease strips an average 17 years of life expectancy from every man to die from the disease and 14 years for every woman to die.

Victoria's chief health officer Brett Sutton said on Wednesday that patients aged in their 30s were currently in hospital in both his state and NSW.
"There should be no assumption that you can't be hospitalised or indeed in intensive care or at risk of dying just because you are in your 20s or 30s," Professor Sutton said. "It has happened and there are significant numbers who have been young and very unwell or who have died internationally with huge numbers that have been seen."

COVID-19 deaths wipe out an average 15 years of life, symptoms linger in young

COVID-19 is wiping more than a decade of life expectancy from those who die from the disease, while some survivors suffer ongoing symptoms.

www.theage.com.au

 

[PowerBaz]

Gee from what I’m reading the people in Victoria who haven’t done the right thing are really cocking it up for everybody else. Just follow the rules people.

 

[PAFC66]

Two new cases ha ? Ok watch the numbers skyrocket real fast,as long as ppl still coming over the border or OS, we’re fukd !!


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You serious ? It's 2 cases.

 

[bomberclifford]

Gee from what I’m reading the people in Victoria who haven’t done the right thing are really cocking it up for everybody else. Just follow the rules people.

Victoria is built on a foundation of not following rules.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Have heard that Victoria's number for today will be in very low 400s. Still high but at least it's not a record.

 

[PAFC66]

Have heard that Victoria's number for today will be in very low 400s. Still high but at least it's not a record.

408.

They'll be celebrating stability.

 

[PAFC66]

Victoria is built on a foundation of not following rules.

Maybe we need to increase our fines to record levels like SA and include some dodgy *victims of crime levy , that'll do it.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

how about fruit pickers pay wages that attract australian employees

 

[Andre]

Have heard that Victoria's number for today will be in very low 400s. Still high but at least it's not a record.

With face masks from today and Andrews calling out all the people for not isolating straight away, it's two weeks time to see if they need to go into tighter restrictions. In the meantime stop letting Victorians in. Another of 'our' numbers someone testing negative in Vic then positive here. You have to wonder what the hell they are doing over there.

 

[Andre]

how about fruit pickers pay wages that attract australian employees

If shoppers are willing to pay a premium for Australian fruit sure. Although surely here's a chance to take advantage of COVID-19 and require all incoming food produce from Countries that aren't at Aus low levels of infection needing to be checked / sanitised / quarantined etc. as a way to bump those prices up without running foul of WTO laws on restricting trade.

 

[pastmyprimus]

With face masks from today and Andrews calling out all the people for not isolating straight away, it's two weeks time to see if they need to go into tighter restrictions. In the meantime stop letting Victorians in. Another of 'our' numbers someone testing negative in Vic then positive here. You have to wonder what the hell they are doing over there.

In Victoria it pretty much started with the failure of the hotel quarantine program then the outbreaks got boosted by people failing to comply with the lockdown restrictions

 

[RossFC]

Vics please stay home ffs.

 

[Andre]

In Victoria it pretty much started with the failure of the hotel quarantine program then the outbreaks got boosted by people failing to comply with the lockdown restrictions

Victoria was non-compliant before then. Like the footage of Bondi, St. Kilda beach showed a complete lack of social distancing during 'wave one'. SA certainly hasn't been perfect, but even given the population differences, there's from the start appeared to be much more compliance here.

 

[Forzaport]

Assuming this journal article isn’t retracted, it appears the major determinant of COVID mortality is obesity. Full lockdowns & rapid border closures not associated with COVID mortality.

A country level analysis measuring the impact of government actions, country preparedness and socioeconomic factors on COVID-19 mortality and related health outcomes

In this exploratory analysis, low levels of national preparedness, scale of testing and population characteristics were associated with increased national case load and overall mortality.

www.thelancet.com

It looks like losing weight is your best defence against the virus.