Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[No SPIN]

How liberal do we want to be with the concept of conspiracy theoris. Technically George Bush blew Iraq to smithereens based on a unproven conspiracy theory that they had chemical weapons that they wanted to use on civilians so there is that.nThen we have Myanmar. I don’t have any proof that China has infiltrated the military to help organise the coup but sometimes a answer can be so obvious it doesn’t need a detailed analysis. If the door has red hand prints on it and you have red paint on your hands I’m not gonna DNA test the door

Ultimately I’m not sure conspiracy theories are needed nowadays beyond The govt level . Society is too dumb and too easily manipulated to require some grand plan as far as big business . If you tell them to buy something they will so why would one need to make any effort

Fair point - I’m talking about COVID specific conspiracy theories - 5G, Digital Currency, micro chips, depopulation, fake virus etc.
And the ubiquitous THEY who are doing all this, is never answered by the Conspiracists.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Fair point - I’m talking about COVID specific conspiracy theories - 5G, Digital Currency, micro chips, depopulation, fake virus etc.
And the ubiquitous THEY who are doing all this, is never answered by the Conspiracists.

5G - Not many believe this. Its the extremities of a situation to make a sweeping statement that isnt reflective of the 95%

Digital Currency - WTF are you on about? Bitcoin, the complete movement to a cashless society isnt a conspiracy. Its as cold hard fact as you will get

Micro Chips - Not a conspiracy. cold hard facts. Things like this are happening so pretending it isnt wont make it go away - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

Depopulation - I think their is a intent to lower fertility rates. Its up to you to say if thats depopulation or not?

Fake virus - Fake response is different to a fake virus. A man made virus is also different to a fake virus too. Most of us dont care where it came from, we just know its a fake response with agendas behind it.

 

[No SPIN]

5G - Not many believe this. Its the extremities of a situation to make a sweeping statement that isnt reflective of the 95%

Digital Currency - WTF are you on about? Bitcoin, the complete movement to a cashless society isnt a conspiracy. Its as cold hard fact as you will get

Micro Chips - Not a conspiracy. cold hard facts. Things like this are happening so pretending it isnt wont make it go away - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

Depopulation - I think their is a intent to lower fertility rates. Its up to you to say if thats depopulation or not?

Fake virus - Fake response is different to a fake virus. A man made virus is also different to a fake virus too. Most of us dont care where it came from, we just know its a fake response with agendas behind it.

let me explain Conspiracies around the issues:
Digital currency- “they” want to control the flow of money and force everyone to use Digital Currency and bann cash

Micro chips in the vaccine

Depopulation- vaccine is designed to depopulate the world - it’s a Bill Gates plan

Fake response - you will need to explain what you mean.

 

[MrKK]

Fair point - I’m talking about COVID specific conspiracy theories - 5G, Digital Currency, micro chips, depopulation, fake virus etc.
And the ubiquitous THEY who are doing all this, is never answered by the Conspiracists.

Literally the only time I've seen 5G mentioned for months on BigFooty in regards to Covid, is by people using it as a strawman argument.

 

[No SPIN]

Literally the only time I've seen 5G mentioned for months on BigFooty in regards to Covid, is by people using it as a strawman argument.

you haven’t heard that lockdown was intentional to allow 5G towers to be rolled out , or that highest COVID infection rates coincided with highest density of 5G towers?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

let me explain Conspiracies around the issues:
Digital currency- “they” want to control the flow of money and force everyone to use Digital Currency and bann cash

Micro chips in the vaccine

Depopulation- vaccine is designed to depopulate the world - it’s a Bill Gates plan

Fake response - you will need to explain what you mean.

Digital currency- “they” want to control the flow of money and force everyone to use Digital Currency and bann cash - They do? Im staggered as to why you think otherwise? How many non cash alternatives need to be thrust into our society before it becomes a discussion? Not a theory I particularly give a crap about if im being honest

Micro chips in the vaccine - No one is saying this at all. I think you are inventing your own conspiracies. Its a stupid theory anyway. Why would you chip someone you already control? The micro chipping concepts is essentially the harvesting of data and restricting of protest and movements. The reason I know this is happening because IT IS LAWS OF OUR COUNTRY. Look it up. You are not allowed to protest without govt approval at present and at last check all shops around AUS can take our personal details. Think about it

Depopulation - You want me to prove this? THey cant even prove the vaccine works and you want me to prove its effects 20 years from now? Its a theory worth talking about. If you dont want someone to create theories about your product, you should work to define what it does and take litigation responsibility for it. This is a case of the product owners allowing for conspiracies by refusing to define its product

Fake response - I really dont need to explain this. You think Ana gives a ****ing shit about people dieing? Lets say she does for example. If she did, why is she letting her health system run with 5 month wait times for core services? Like in the spirit of saving lives, would this not be something you fix? If you wanted to save lives, wouldnt you ban smoking, drinking, lower speed limits to 40km a hour etc etc. I feel like you are asking me to explain why water is wet with that last one. I can be here til next Wednesday talking about the fake response

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

you haven’t heard that lockdown was intentional to allow 5G towers to be rolled out , or that highest COVID infection rates coincided with highest density of 5G towers?

By about 4 crackheads I have, but im not really one adding the significant weight to those 4 crackheads. Its you.

 

[MrKK]

you haven’t heard that lockdown was intentional to allow 5G towers to be rolled out , or that highest COVID infection rates coincided with highest density of 5G towers?

Not for months in here, but as I say it gets wheeled out on the other Covid threads by lockdown enthusiasts trying to smear their opponents as loons.

 

[No SPIN]

Digital currency- “they” want to control the flow of money and force everyone to use Digital Currency and bann cash - They do? Im staggered as to why you think otherwise? How many non cash alternatives need to be thrust into our society before it becomes a discussion? Not a theory I particularly give a crap about if im being honest

Micro chips in the vaccine - No one is saying this at all. I think you are inventing your own conspiracies. Its a stupid theory anyway. Why would you chip someone you already control? The micro chipping concepts is essentially the harvesting of data and restricting of protest and movements. The reason I know this is happening because IT IS LAWS OF OUR COUNTRY. Look it up. You are not allowed to protest without govt approval at present and at last check all shops around AUS can take our personal details. Think about it

Depopulation - You want me to prove this? THey cant even prove the vaccine works and you want me to prove its effects 20 years from now? Its a theory worth talking about. If you dont want someone to create theories about your product, you should work to define what it does and take litigation responsibility for it. This is a case of the product owners allowing for conspiracies by refusing to define its product

Fake response - I really dont need to explain this. You think Ana gives a ******* sh*t about people dieing? Lets say she does for example. If she did, why is she letting her health system run with 5 month wait times for core services? Like in the spirit of saving lives, would this not be something you fix? If you wanted to save lives, wouldnt you ban smoking, drinking, lower speed limits to 40km a hour etc etc. I feel like you are asking me to explain why water is wet with that last one. I can be here til next Wednesday talking about the fake response

who are “they” in the context of all the theories above?
I don’t see one “they” who has vested interest in pursuing all the above.
That’s is your challenge - give me a cohesive theory on the ONE “they”.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If a conspiracy theory is a unproven concept, then technically. Is the vaccine not a conspiracy theory in itself according to NoSpins definitons?

 

[Seedsman_]

Stop sprouting conspiracy theories and just eat your donut Seeds.

Don't forget to sit on your arse all day because we need to restrict movement to keep you safe!

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

who are “they” in the context of all the theories above?
I don’t see one “they” who has vested interest in pursuing all the above.
That’s is your challenge - give me a cohesive theory on the ONE “they”.

China dont want to pursue all of that? Every single thing I just mentioned is Chinas current national policy,. Its just now being globalised you will find

Are you high?

 

[No SPIN]

If a conspiracy theory is a unproven concept, then technically. Is the vaccine not a conspiracy theory in itself according to NoSpins definitons?

I think if you have irrefutable evidence from credible sources the Vaccine is unproven, then yes.
The operative word being “credible”.
Please don’t quotes frauds like Dr Buttar or Dr. Shiva.

 

[No SPIN]

China dont want to pursue all of that? Every single thing I just mentioned is Chinas current national policy,. Its just now being globalised you will find

Are you high?

it’s your opportunity to rationalize on a (Global scale ) that it’s China - off you go.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I think if you have irrefutable evidence from credible sources the Vaccine is unproven, then yes.
The operative word being “credible”.
Please don’t quotes frauds like Dr Buttar or Dr. Shiva.

The burden of proof falls on the product creators to prove it works, not the consumer. If I make a toilet that turns my shit into gold bars, do you have to buy said toilet based on my concept and then prove it doesn't work after you buy and consume it or something? Or would I prove it works and then you buy it?

Im willing to accept irrefutable evidence the vaccine works when it occurs you will find. I just havnt been provided it yet and neither have you, hence why the companies making it have immunity from litigation

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

it’s your opportunity to rationalize on a (Global scale ) that it’s China - off you go.

We have done that for hundreds of pages?, How much more proof or evidence are you after? Like you must want some form of smoking cannon from a pirate ship in plain sight so I guess id like to know from you what proof you are after?

Its easier for me if you create a question i can answer as opposed to write thousands of words for a second time

Honest question. Which of

Depopulation
Micro chips in products
Protest control
Digital Currency
Govt Controlled responses

Is not a Chinese known govt policy?

 

[burge13]

Literally the only time I've seen 5G mentioned for months on BigFooty in regards to Covid, is by people using it as a strawman argument.

No one who is against lockdowns has ever used 5G as a reason. It is always brought up by those in favour of them

"You probably believe 5G too. Lockdowns keep the virus out". It's said by very smooth brained people clinging to their belief. Covid cheerleading is as bad as religion. No matter the fact put in front of them, their belief overrides fact

 

[ioppolo]

All this reminds me of when people asked what I thought of Trump in his earlier presidential days.
"What do you think of him"
"I don't mind him actually"
"Oh I bet you're into Q and Pizzagate then right hur hur"

 

[No SPIN]

We have done that for hundreds of pages?, How much more proof or evidence are you after? Like you must want some form of smoking cannon from a pirate ship in plain sight so I guess id like to know from you what proof you are after?

Its easier for me if you create a question i can answer as opposed to write thousands of words for a second time

Honest question. Which of

Depopulation
Micro chips in products
Protest control
Digital Currency
Govt Controlled responses

Is not a Chinese known govt policy?

The fact its a Chinese policy does not mean China is the ONE "They" driving the Globe changes in these areas that the Conspiracists want us to believe.
That is my point, you need a ONE "THEY" that is coordinating all these changes Globally, for the Conspiracy theories to make any sense let alone believable - and its not China.

 

[M Malice]

Fair point - I’m talking about COVID specific conspiracy theories - 5G, Digital Currency, micro chips, depopulation, fake virus etc.
And the ubiquitous THEY who are doing all this, is never answered by the Conspiracists.

IMO opinion it is substantially the old never let a crisis go to waste theory. Big business/finance/pharma/oil/tech etc just seize the opportunity to consolidate and increase their power, influence, market share and profit... because of the crisis the power grab is put under a lot less scrutiny.

Governments primary objective is to retain and increase power, they operate in election cycles although that is always the case Covid or no Covid, a crisis increases the opportunity to do this.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The fact its a Chinese policy does not mean China is the ONE "They" driving the Globe changes in these areas that the Conspiracists want us to believe.
That is my point, you need a ONE "THEY" that is coordinating all these changes Globally, for the Conspiracy theories to make any sense let alone believable - and its not China.

You want me to find someone more important than China driving the THEY?

Wake up, China is the THEY. They are more important then the US, the UK, The EU and well us.

If you want to believe China isnt powerful, then thats the most absurd conspiracy theory in this thread. 5G crackheads included

 

[No SPIN]

IMO opinion it is substantially the old never let a crisis go to waste theory. Big business/finance/pharma/oil/tech etc just seize the opportunity to consolidate and increase their power, influence, market share and profit... because of the crisis the power grab is put under a lot less scrutiny.

Governments primary objective is to retain and increase power, they operate in election cycles although that is always the case Covid or no Covid, a crisis increases the opportunity to do this.

First of all you need to demonstrate how these groups have caused the Pandemic to thereby exploit it.

Then I have a problem with this simplistic theory eg Big Pharma.
For every winner eg Vaccine manufacturers there are far more losers eg those Companies that are losing compromised patients (high value customers on Chronic Therapies) using lots of drugs that are dying from COVID. Also, reduced Doctors/Hospital visits mean less drug prescriptions which means less drug sales. Less Surgery means dramatic reduction in all associated drugs, implants etc. It goes on and on. The impact is asymmetric.

Similarly all those other industries mentioned, there a both winners and losers, so you can't make a blanket statements they are all benefitting.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

First of you need to demonstrate how these groups have caused the Pandemic to thereby exploit it.

Then I have a problem with this simplistic theory eg Big Pharma.
For every winner eg Vaccine manufacturers there are far more losers eg those Companies that are losing high value customers on Chronic Therapies using lots of drugs that are dying from COVID. Also reduced Doctors/Hospital visits mean less drug prescriptions which means less drug sales.
Similarly all those others industries mentioned, there a both winners and losers, so you can make a blanket statements they are all benefitting.

Dont make up conspiracy theories yet you make this one up with zero proof or evidence?

Thats rich, where is the evidence that pharma is losing money based on this Covid?

 

[burge13]

First of all you need to demonstrate how these groups have caused the Pandemic to thereby exploit it.

Why are only small businesses being shut? Why can Woolworths trade but not a local deli in lockdown?

The top 1% (political party donors) have added trillions to their wealth whilst everyone else has suffered. Forget about the bottom 10%, they'll die out

I'm not in on any of the conspiracy theory side of covid other than lockdowns being f*cking idiotic but you can't help but question the motives of this when that kind of money is at stake. For these people (Gates, Bezos etc) no amount of money/power/influence is ever enough

 

[burge13]

LOL at this entire thing. If the vaccines work why are you even testing these people
If they don't work, why are they being forced on anyone

Biggest LOL at 'the deadly virus' still being used. We know what it is, we know the mortality rate, stop the sensationalism



F*cking pathetic.