Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%

  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%

  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%

  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%

  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%

  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Total voters
    74

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No SPIN said:
I debunked several of your graphs including Portugal- correlation is not causation.
Jabs all over world started before winter - in winter, it is well known testing increases as do COVID cases. That is FACT - the coincidence of Jabs starting has nothing to do with it.
So you are peddling rubbish.
And BTW - if your theory is right why hasn’t the Jab started new cases here?
Or are you waiting for Winter to start so that you try this fake news again.

And again you start with “no one knows” fantasy about permanent genetic changes when you failed to offer a plausible mechanism by which this could happen - just rubbish.
I could use the same argument that the Vaccine will increase longevity. It’s a completely baseless claim like yours, and absurd, but just reinforces the desperation of your vacuous arguments.
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The world would like to thank you for your courage in the face of this unscrupulous viral attack by mother nature.
Nature is the enemy. What we need is more artificial foods, seeds and artificial people to be sure that we are safe.
Nature is all about death - thank you again for helping me thru these tough times.
 
owen87 said:
Good try. But no.

Where there's a communal good from the society erading a disease - think polio, smallpox - then your choice not to get vaccinated does impact upon others.

You don't live in a society of one.
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That is just so wise - how do you become this wise? - I never would have thought - we are a society - all in this together - it's just beautiful
 

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Jason mp said:
IMO any medical procedure shouldn't be compulsory although there are mitigating circumstances-

1- Can the government make it law that everyone can be forcibly vaccinated, in other words can people be tied down and jabbed?
2- Can the government make it law that you need to be vaccinated to participate in certain activities, eg. attend sporting events/concerts/go shopping at Coles/domestic travel/sit in a restaurant?

1 I can never see happening, 2 I could which will leave it as an individual decision as to whether you are willing to suffer the consequences of the decision not to vaccinate.

The biggest and most intriguing question for me is how they will police item 2, will you be required to carry some sort of vaccine passport, will scan code entry be a permanent thing in society from now on(what about those that don't have smart phones or phones at all, I know a few). Will we require a chip insert indicating vaccine compliance. Or will it be an honour/trust system?

Another concern for me is where does it lead to, will other medical procedures in the future be deemed defacto compulsory.
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Unless the states stay in a lifetime SOE it can't happen. Always remember what the premiers say " without a SOE we can't impose restrictions, masks, quarantine etc "

Australia is not in a SOE only the states are and once they run out it's all over for them, Victoria's runs out in december and unlike last time i don't think they can extends it past this date.
 
owen87 said:
That most of the world - yes, even Sweden and the US - have had to adopt most of the same measure might suggest to you that whatever 'plans' people had in place previously weren't fit for purpose?
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Who are you trying to fool with this disingenuous language? They didn't have to do anything; they chose to abandon their plans in a mixture of panic and groupthink. Who decided that their plans "weren't fit for purpose", yet a global experiment of measures that the plans expressly recommended against was "fit for purpose"?

Later you said people were upset being asked to wear masks. Again this is deliberately false language - they were forced, not asked, and we know how popular they really are when the mandates are removed ie not very. Except for you though - someone who cares more for others would've been wearing one every flu season and will continue to do so in perpetuity, no?
 
Kurve said:
Well, there's Scotty on the TV plugging Fortress Australia. We're closed at an international level, until mid 2022.
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By the end of the year the rest of the world will be jet setting between each other and Australia will still be looking out from behind the curtains in a darkened room wondering if it's still too scary out there. It was actually that obvious in April 2020, the most frightened country in the world with daylight to the next country.
 
Tiger Toffee said:
By the end of the year the rest of the world will be jet setting between each other and Australia will still be looking out from behind the curtains in a darkened room wondering if it's still too scary out there. It was actually that obvious in April 2020, the most frightened country in the world with daylight to the next country.
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Scotty might be talking it up too for political brownie points post the flogging the Libs got in WA. He'll be flip flopping all over with the mood of the country.
 
Kurve said:
If that's right, then the leaders the world over know it and hopefully can use it against China when they need to in a clever way rather than just calling them out.
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That interview is from 9.12.19 (2 weeks prior to COVID) and the bloke openly admits that viruses have escaped the lab (because people have developed antibodies)

He was on the WHO panel that just reported that it might have come from frozen food (conflict of interest? the bloke has an invested interest in WIV)
 

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According to today’s report in The Daily Expose lawyers and medical experts worldwide say they have all the evidence they need to convict not only Bill Gates but also the WHO,CDC, PHE and world leaders of Covid fraud and ‘crimes against Humanity including genocide.

Since July 2020 the Corona Investigative Committee in Germany has taken testimony from a large number of international scientists and experts.

The Committee led by Dr Reiner Fuellmich, have concluded that the corona crisis should be renamed as the “Corona Scandal” -the biggest tort case ever, the greatest crime against humanity ever committed…..

Those responsible must be criminally prosecuted for crimes against humanity and sued for civil damages.

The Committee also concluded that there is no excess mortality in any country and that Corona virus mortality Equals seasonal flu…..Autopsies showed that almost all fatalities were caused by pre-existing conditions and almost all deaths were very old people.

Sweden (no lockdown), and Britain (strict lockdown) have comparable disease and mortality rates. The US states with and without lock-downs also have comparable disease and mortality rates. Whereas hospitals remain empty and some face bankruptcy…. Many scientists also call this a PCR-TEST pandemic, not a corona pandemic. The PCR test is not based on scientific facts – does not mean infection or that an intact virus has been found.The report goes on with more details.

Legal proceedings have also commenced in Canada in the Supreme Court of Justice but don’t hold your breath yet!
 
yebiga said:
According to today’s report in The Daily Expose lawyers and medical experts worldwide say they have all the evidence they need to convict not only Bill Gates but also the WHO,CDC, PHE and world leaders of Covid fraud and ‘crimes against Humanity including genocide.

Since July 2020 the Corona Investigative Committee in Germany has taken testimony from a large number of international scientists and experts.

The Committee led by Dr Reiner Fuellmich, have concluded that the corona crisis should be renamed as the “Corona Scandal” -the biggest tort case ever, the greatest crime against humanity ever committed…..

Those responsible must be criminally prosecuted for crimes against humanity and sued for civil damages.

The Committee also concluded that there is no excess mortality in any country and that Corona virus mortality Equals seasonal flu…..Autopsies showed that almost all fatalities were caused by pre-existing conditions and almost all deaths were very old people.

Sweden (no lockdown), and Britain (strict lockdown) have comparable disease and mortality rates. The US states with and without lock-downs also have comparable disease and mortality rates. Whereas hospitals remain empty and some face bankruptcy…. Many scientists also call this a PCR-TEST pandemic, not a corona pandemic. The PCR test is not based on scientific facts – does not mean infection or that an intact virus has been found.The report goes on with more details.

Legal proceedings have also commenced in Canada in the Supreme Court of Justice but don’t hold your breath yet!
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Hilarious .....what a waste of your time. Or maybe that was productive. You might be a real loser...
 
yebiga said:
According to today’s report in The Daily Expose lawyers and medical experts worldwide say they have all the evidence they need to convict not only Bill Gates but also the WHO,CDC, PHE and world leaders of Covid fraud and ‘crimes against Humanity including genocide.

Since July 2020 the Corona Investigative Committee in Germany has taken testimony from a large number of international scientists and experts.

The Committee led by Dr Reiner Fuellmich, have concluded that the corona crisis should be renamed as the “Corona Scandal” -the biggest tort case ever, the greatest crime against humanity ever committed…..

Those responsible must be criminally prosecuted for crimes against humanity and sued for civil damages.

The Committee also concluded that there is no excess mortality in any country and that Corona virus mortality Equals seasonal flu…..Autopsies showed that almost all fatalities were caused by pre-existing conditions and almost all deaths were very old people.

Sweden (no lockdown), and Britain (strict lockdown) have comparable disease and mortality rates. The US states with and without lock-downs also have comparable disease and mortality rates. Whereas hospitals remain empty and some face bankruptcy…. Many scientists also call this a PCR-TEST pandemic, not a corona pandemic. The PCR test is not based on scientific facts – does not mean infection or that an intact virus has been found.The report goes on with more details.

Legal proceedings have also commenced in Canada in the Supreme Court of Justice but don’t hold your breath yet!
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Sweden only has a population of 10 million, 13,000 of them died of coronavirus and some in authority have since questioned the morality in their covid strategy with shame because they know it unnecessarily killed people. Their plan lacked conscience and reminds people of the Swiss bank account and that time in history where they stayed neutral through WWII to make a ton of money out of it storing stolen gold and riches for the Nazis.

They also recently rushed through emergency lockdown laws.
 
Kurve said:
Sweden only has a population of 10 million, 13,000 of them died of coronavirus and some in authority have since questioned the morality in their covid strategy with shame because they know it unnecessarily killed people. Their plan lacked conscience and reminds people of the Swiss bank account and that time in history where they stayed neutral through WWII to make a ton of money out of it storing stolen gold and riches for the Nazis.

They also recently rushed through emergency lockdown laws.
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Thank you for adding this. Your relationship to the truth is strictly consistent. It’s a credit to you how you addressed every issue raised about these tests and deaths prior to reaching your conclusion. And then linked it all to Swiss bank accounts and NAZIs. In this time of widespread irrational fear, calm voices like yours help us all to negotiate thru treacherous narratives. Thank you
 
Jason mp said:
IMO any medical procedure shouldn't be compulsory although there are mitigating circumstances-

1- Can the government make it law that everyone can be forcibly vaccinated, in other words can people be tied down and jabbed?
2- Can the government make it law that you need to be vaccinated to participate in certain activities, eg. attend sporting events/concerts/go shopping at Coles/domestic travel/sit in a restaurant?

1 I can never see happening, 2 I could which will leave it as an individual decision as to whether you are willing to suffer the consequences of the decision not to vaccinate.

The biggest and most intriguing question for me is how they will police item 2, will you be required to carry some sort of vaccine passport, will scan code entry be a permanent thing in society from now on(what about those that don't have smart phones or phones at all, I know a few). Will we require a chip insert indicating vaccine compliance. Or will it be an honour/trust system?

Another concern for me is where does it lead to, will other medical procedures in the future be deemed defacto compulsory.
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In this case we have a 'vaccine' that is experimental. It's not FDA approved apart from 'emergency use'. For authorities to make such a product anything other than optional would be criminal.
 
Bumpswithagrin said:
In your brain it might but not according to law it doesn't. You have always been allowed to refuse a vaccine and nothing has changed. Your health is your responsibility not anyone else's.
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Technically true. They can make life more difficult for you though. Australia is one of a few countries that penalizes parents who don't vaccinate kids so coercion already exists.
 
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