Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Bumpswithagrin]

That's what I thought too. Joey's meme above directly quotes our TGA, I looked for it thinking it couldn't be right but there it was.

To 23 May 2021, 3.6 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in Australia. In this period, the TGA has received 210 reports of deaths following immunisation – 109 have been reported for the Pfizer vaccine, 94 for the AstraZeneca vaccine and seven where the vaccine was not specified. Most of these reports (93%) were for people 65 years of age and over, and over three quarters were 75 years of age and over. Many of the deaths relate to elderly aged-care residents.

The TGA reviews all deaths reported after vaccination and monitors for safety signals. Part of our analysis includes comparing expected natural death rates to observed death rates following immunisation. To date, the observed number of deaths reported after vaccination is actually less than the expected number of deaths.

COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 27-05-2021

Information about the TGA's safety monitoring of COVID-19 vaccines.

www.tga.gov.au

The person I know that had the stroke had the Pfizer vaccine, that is the worst adverse reaction I personally have heard of to date.

 

[faible]

Pre emptive my ass

You cant support the narrative without supporting the consequences. That is life

If you cant deal with that, you need to grow up and join us in the adult world. Decisions have consequences in the end. If you cant handle it then it says about you I think

I see you're continuing to run with the personal insults without me having even made comment.

So given you're in favour of taking no action, everyone that dies due to COVID-19 is on you right, how's it feel being responsible for 3.5m deaths?

Idiotic logic.

I also note you rapidly vanished after accusing me of working in a Chinese dominated industry but being wrong.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I see you're continuing to run with the personal insults without me having even made comment.

So given you're in favour of taking no action, everyone that dies due to COVID-19 is on you right, how's it feel being responsible for 3.5m deaths?

Idiotic logic.

I also note you rapidly vanished after accusing me of working in a Chinese dominated industry but being wrong.

Its not personal. Its a ideology served by many. You just chose to make yourself the poster boy. Thats up to you. You dont have to be in this thread being the poster boy for lockdowns.

Im in favour of staged lockdowns when needed as well as huge investment in the health sector. ATM we have lockdowns when not needed and massive budget cuts in the health sector.

Well I dont know you so you can lie all you like I suppose.

In the end you are another lockdown lover who wants to live with the end result but refuse to accept the inconveniences the end result produces. No empathy at all outside of your own self serving issues

 

[faible]

Its not personal. Its a ideology served by many. You just chose to make yourself the poster boy. Thats up to you. You dont have to be in this thread being the poster boy for lockdowns.

Im in favour of staged lockdowns when needed as well as huge investment in the health sector. ATM we have lockdowns when not needed and massive budget cuts in the health sector.

Well I dont know you so you can lie all you like I suppose.

In the end you are another lockdown lover who wants to live with the end result but refuse to accept the inconveniences the end result produces. No empathy at all outside of your own self serving issues

Ah huh.

That's three times now running with the personal attacks without me making a single comment on the issue.

Sounds to me, yet again, like this is a you problem.

No comment about the China thing? When you were wrong then slunk away?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Ah huh.

That's three times now running with the personal attacks without me making a single comment on the issue.

Sounds to me, yet again, like this is a you problem.

No comment about the China thing? When you were wrong then slunk away?

You just are not willing to take responsibility for anything in your life, including your own opinion. Thats not a personal attack. Thats just the basic flow of this conversation unfortunately

I do wish you well but talking to you is going nowhere so might be best to have each other on ignore id say? If you want to spout out a opinion and then refuse to accept that opinion until you narrow it down to a exact degree where you feel comfortable with, we aint gonna get anywhere

 

[faible]

You just are not willing to take responsibility for anything in your life, including your own opinion. Thats not a personal attack. Thats just the basic flow of this conversation unfortunately

I do wish you well but talking to you is going nowhere so might be best to have each other on ignore id say? If you want to spout out a opinion and then refuse to accept that opinion until you narrow it down to a exact degree where you feel comfortable with, we aint gonna get anywhere

The basic flow of this conversation was; you make an unfounded allegation, I ask you to justify that allegation with any form of evidence, you launch in to personal insults, I continue to ask for any form of evidence, insults continue. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

This applies to pretty much every interaction we've had, and, amusingly, even when I'm agreeing with you, you're so blinded by your imagined idea of what I must be, that you can't recognise it.

Quite astounding.

 

[No SPIN]

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How are these ingredients good for human health ?.

You can't just say, Trust the science behind it.

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How are these ingredients good for human health ?.

You can't just say, Trust the science behind it.

Source please - because you have taken a lot of poetic license with that list. I notice that there are ? marks next to every ingredient so your your source is questioning the inclusion of such ingredients on the Vaccine.

Therefore the list is not accurate.
This is another example of you having little understanding of what you’re posting.
Just like the other day with Relative and Absolute Risk reduction, by the Vaccine.
I asked you to provide an explanation of what it meant but you chose not to respond, clearly because you post stuff you don’t really understand.

You, your, friends and family take SAFE drugs that have active components and binders, that have names far worse than these.
So being frightened by names of ingredients is naive, it’s the quantity that’s important.

 

[No SPIN]

Heartbroken Victorian mum’s plea for funeral exemption for her son turned down

The devastated family of an eight year old boy who drowned have had their request for his funeral to go ahead turned down by the Victorian government.

www.news.com.au

No doubt the owen and NO SPINs of the world cheering on decisions like this. For the greater good huh?

i suggest you do some research on my views on lockdowns before making foolish judgements.

 

[Yahru MkElvin]

What We Know — And May Never Know — About COVID Vaccines

The animated video, “COVID Vaccine Secrets,” walks viewers through a long list of questions about the COVID vaccines, including many for which we may never have answers.

childrenshealthdefense.org

 

[M Malice]

My family is starting to give me a fair bit of grief re my decision not to get the Covid vaccine, I'm 61 and have a couple of comorbidities ie. Cancer(not lifestyle related) in 2019, fully recovered now and I also have a genetic renal condition which means I have 40% kidney function.... no visible consequences as of now, in fact I feel fantastic, I eat well and regularly exercise and am in a healthy weight range.

Starting to seriously consider whether I should just bite the bullet and get if for my families peace of mind and to do away with the arguments and guilting.

 

[Registered User]

That's what I thought too. Joey's meme above directly quotes our TGA, I looked for it thinking it couldn't be right but there it was.

To 23 May 2021, 3.6 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in Australia. In this period, the TGA has received 210 reports of deaths following immunisation – 109 have been reported for the Pfizer vaccine, 94 for the AstraZeneca vaccine and seven where the vaccine was not specified. Most of these reports (93%) were for people 65 years of age and over, and over three quarters were 75 years of age and over. Many of the deaths relate to elderly aged-care residents.

The TGA reviews all deaths reported after vaccination and monitors for safety signals. Part of our analysis includes comparing expected natural death rates to observed death rates following immunisation. To date, the observed number of deaths reported after vaccination is actually less than the expected number of deaths.

COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 27-05-2021

Information about the TGA's safety monitoring of COVID-19 vaccines.

www.tga.gov.au

Please post this in one of the brain-dead sub-forums -- they just brush as off us nuts -- then ask why they suppose it never gets reported on ANY mainstream service.
I'll save you the trouble. They'll just say they're all coincidences and old people, then will drive off to get their Kool-Aid jab

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

My family is starting to give me a fair bit of grief re my decision not to get the Covid vaccine, I'm 61 and have a couple of comorbidities ie. Cancer(not lifestyle related) in 2019, fully recovered now and I also have a genetic renal condition which means I have 40% kidney function.... no visible consequences as of now, in fact I feel fantastic, I eat well and regularly exercise and am in a healthy weight range.

Starting to seriously consider whether I should just bite the bullet and get if for my families peace of mind and to do away with the arguments and guilting.

Consult your GP

 

[Catfish Alley]

Please post this in one of the brain-dead sub-forums -- they just brush as off us nuts -- then ask why they suppose it never gets reported on ANY mainstream service.
I'll save you the trouble. They'll just say they're all coincidences and old people, then will drive off to get their Kool-Aid jab

Maybe I’m misinterpreting. They could just point to the last paragraph couldn’t they?

 

[Registered User]

Maybe I’m misinterpreting. They could just point to the last paragraph couldn’t they?

They'll find somethin'. Yes, they're all coincidences. All of 'em

 

[Catfish Alley]

They'll find somethin'

Isn’t it saying they aren’t seeing any lift in death rates compared to what occurs naturally?

 

[Kurve]

The person I know that had the stroke had the Pfizer vaccine, that is the worst adverse reaction I personally have heard of to date.

I've just had the AZ shot and got more info off my doc who also had the AZ shot and is under 50yo. A couple of the docs in here chose AZ over Pfizer, one because he was busy and only had AZ in the surgery and he didn't want to have to go out for the Pfizer. (They still don't have Pfizer in here.) Neither of them had an adverse reaction.

I asked one of the young nurses if she had her Pfizer shot and she said no, she needs to be here to get everybody AZ vaccinated and can't afford the time off if she gets sick.

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[Kurve]

Isn’t it saying they aren’t seeing any lift in death rates compared to what occurs naturally?

That's likely the correct interpretation.

I'd still like to see a number on how many Pfizer shots have been administered.

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[M Malice]

Consult your GP

I haven't seen her since pre Covid, I know what she'll say anyway... get the vaccine.

My personal health journey is a long winded one and I have gone into before in various threads so I don't feel like it again right now, short story short- I am NOT anti the medical establishment but suffice to say from personal experience I do not look at them as infallible or god like, they are human and prone to mistakes.

 

[Registered User]

Isn’t it saying they aren’t seeing any lift in death rates compared to what occurs naturally?

I'm suss on that bit, too. I reckon these gov arms in all countries only post that info to save their arses in case a LOT of shit hits ALL the fans down the road. If the death-jabs cause many more people to start dropping off in the next couple of years, they can just say, "well, hey, don't blame us! We've been publishing relevant warnings on the TGA website all along for all to see, so you knew the risks"

 

[Registered User]

That's likely the correct interpretation.
I'd still like to see a number on how many Pfizer shots have been administered.

i read somewhere that the death window for the Pfizer death-jab is 4 to weeks, so it's less immediate than the clotting jabs

 

[Catfish Alley]

Like Bill Burr said, why would they want to kill the people who are most compliant??

 

[Registered User]

Like Bill Burr said, why would they want to kill the people who are most compliant??

We said on here a couple of weeks ago, it's a cost-benefit thing (killing a very small percentage, but still making squillions), unless you're referring to the population cull theory, which is a different story.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

I've just had the AZ shot and got more info off my doc who also had the AZ shot and is under 50yo. A couple of the docs in here chose AZ over Pfizer, one because he was busy and only had AZ in the surgery and he didn't want to have to go out for the Pfizer. (They still don't have Pfizer in here.) Neither of them had an adverse reaction.

I asked one of the young nurses if she had her Pfizer shot and she said no, she needs to be here to get everybody AZ vaccinated and can't afford the time off if she gets sick.

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Interesting. Everyone I know has had a reaction, albeit mostly mild, with some having a something like a mild dose of the flu. Most of those were the AZ ones I believe. Like I said the only really bad one as the stroke victim (Pfizer) but everyone I know has had some kind of reaction which is worrying. Of course on the long terms effects, who knows?

 

[Catfish Alley]

Been about 50/50 in terms of having a reaction from people I know. The worst was a bit of lethargy.

 

[Catfish Alley]

It’s a small sample but that covers few hundred people because I’m in an industry where it was highly recommended. We’re having health statuses updated weekly.