Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%

  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%

  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%

  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%

  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%

  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Total voters
    74

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No SPIN said:
I’m sure you’ve caught a cold from a sick person at least once in your life.
So testing finds infected people, they are isolated and or treated to stop the spread.
I have no idea why you are challenging this well established fact.
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Ah, but just because two people have a cold does not mean one caught it from the other does it? As you say yourself, correlation is not causation. I'm sure you've been around people with colds many times and not caught one, funny that isn't it?

A well established fact is not necessarily the truth.
 
Run n Spread said:
Watching the footy why are coaches in masks? They test endlessly and are negative so why the masks? Just propaganda.
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The Demons will be forced to sing the song in masks like the Eagles did too a few weeks back because you know have to set an example for us plebs.
 
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giggler99 said:
The Demons will be forced to sing the singing the song in masks like the Eagles did too a few weeks back because you know have yo set an example for us plebs.
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But the example doesn't extend to cancelling the footy all together. Go figure.
 
Bumpswithagrin said:
But the example doesn't extend to cancelling the footy all together. Go figure.
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yean bizarre they high five and hug each other, sweat and breath on each other on the field, but in the rooms masks on.. It's stupid rules like this that does my head in with this pandemic.

But you know have to set that example for us simple people.
 
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Steele13 said:
This is one of the most frustrating things. We can handle this, we could have hundreds of cases a day, with sensible proportional policy, and still have a normal functioning society. How, after so long, this is still the best option is mind boggling
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We did. 700 new cases a day last winter and the same deaths as influenza every other year and less in total. Now we shut for 15 cases.
 
No SPIN said:
Viruses are alive - but don’t last long outside the body.

As to the Germ v Terrain theory - it’s chicken or the egg.
Exposure to the same pathogen will not cause disease in a healthy body but produce illness in the unhealthy person.
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They're not. They are a single strand organism. They can be present on surfaces (along with literally billions of other bacterial and viruses you are exposed to yearly.)
But last paragraph I agree. You need to measure the people getting seriously ill not just testing positive. Also focus needs to be on getting people healthy and early treatment if sick (what happened to a doctor treating this) so it can be withstood
If we shut down over this we may as well shut down forever as there are millions of viruses that can make you sick. You can't eradicate them all.
No discussion is had on the role of vitamin d treatment options etc just vaccines masks and lockdowns.
 
www.tga.gov.au

COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 27-05-2021

Information about the TGA's safety monitoring of COVID-19 vaccines.
www.tga.gov.au www.tga.gov.au

To 23 May 2021, 3.6 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in Australia. In this period, the TGA has received 210 reports of deaths following immunisation – 109 have been reported for the Pfizer vaccine, 94 for the AstraZeneca vaccine and seven where the vaccine was not specified. Most of these reports (93%) were for people 65 years of age and over, and over three quarters were 75 years of age and over. Many of the deaths relate to elderly aged-care residents.

The TGA reviews all deaths reported after vaccination and monitors for safety signals. Part of our analysis includes comparing expected natural death rates to observed death rates following immunisation. To date, the observed number of deaths reported after vaccination is actually less than the expected number of deaths.
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According to the TGA, there is a 1 in 17142 chance of death following vaccination. Interestingly enough, they expected a greater number of deaths.

Then it goes on to say

Apart from the single Australian case in which death was linked to TTS, COVID-19 vaccines have not been found to cause death. Given the benefits of vaccination with regard to preventing severe disease, hospitalisation and death from COVID-19, particularly in older age groups, immunisation is strongly encouraged as we head into the winter months.
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So the vaccines have not been found to cause death however they expected more deaths following vaccination.
 
BlueE said:
But as I say most of the information I got when I first posted on the ebola injection months ago is now scrubbed, so I appreciate if you post links to what you found.
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I think you might find what you're looking for generally here in 'Contraindications and precautions' regards the ebola vaccines via the CDC, they're similar to those of the viral vector coronavirus vaccines.

Anaphylaxis, potential adverse affects on the breastfed child, RNA shedding of the vaccine virus (the weakened attentuated) leading to the theoretical possibility it could be transmitted to someone else, etc. etc.

Contraindications and precautions for ERVEBO® | Clinicians | Ebola (Ebola Virus Disease) | CDC

Ervebo® should not be given to people with known allergies, infection or other acute illness, any clinically significant medical condition, or unwillingness to complete the informed consent process. Consideration should be given to special populations.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
 
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Bumpswithagrin said:
Ah, but just because two people have a cold does not mean one caught it from the other does it? As you say yourself, correlation is not causation. I'm sure you've been around people with colds many times and not caught one, funny that isn't it?

A well established fact is not necessarily the truth.
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its truth - but that fact it doesn’t occur 100% of the time doesn’t make it false.
 
I've been reading, Big Pharma are making chemists remove NAC from shelves in the U.S, Because of the benefits it has boosting the immune system & overall health, While recovering from the common cold etc.

N-Acetylcysteine (NAC) has a list of health benefits longer than its name! While NAC might not be as well known as other nutrients I’ve discussed, it is definitely one worth getting on your radar.

From detoxification, to brain health, to heart health, to fertility, NAC is a jack of all trades, and it’s a supplement I regularly recommend to my patients.
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May Reduce Inflammation and Symptoms Related to Influenza and Viral Illness
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Run n Spread said:
They're not. They are a single strand organism. They can be present on surfaces (along with literally billions of other bacterial and viruses you are exposed to yearly.)
But last paragraph I agree. You need to measure the people getting seriously ill not just testing positive. Also focus needs to be on getting people healthy and early treatment if sick (what happened to a doctor treating this) so it can be withstood
If we shut down over this we may as well shut down forever as there are millions of viruses that can make you sick. You can't eradicate them all.
No discussion is had on the role of vitamin d treatment options etc just vaccines masks and lockdowns.
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Viruses are alive - but can’t live out of the body very long as I have stated.
I have no idea we’re you read ALL Viruses are dead.
It’s just plain wrong - dead viruses can’t cause infections or diseases.
 
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