Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #5: We're in this together!

About Covid vaccines: Opinion on mandates? Your personal situation?

  • I support vaccine mandates for all jobs

    Votes: 24 26.1%
  • I support vaccine mandates for health & aged care jobs

    Votes: 9 9.8%
  • I don't care either way, it's up to each company

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • Vaccine mandates are immoral and/or unjustifiable

    Votes: 46 50.0%
  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I got it to keep my job

    Votes: 13 14.1%
  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I decided to quit my job

    Votes: 8 8.7%
  • My employer has left the decision to get the vaccine optional

    Votes: 8 8.7%
  • I'm not sure where my employer stands on this issue

    Votes: 14 15.2%

  • Total voters
    92

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W.A has announced new border rules

- Visiting dieing relative - 14 days quarantine
- Play cricket - 5 days quarantine

If I decide to play cricket can I evade the virus and not get the vaccine? Seems like Mao has scientifc evidence stating that the game of cricket is a way of combating the virus that we are all missing
 
Who are you talking to?

Covidlive site has Queensland just under 80% of 12+ first dosed, and 66% for the 2nd. Don't think many states would be ruling out restrictions on those numbers, seems pretty consistent.

80% vaccinated.

The backflipping of when it does, doesnt work and the soon to be "He isnt vaccinated, he didnt stand on his tippy toes and sing Gangam Style so he doesnt count" isnt something I have ever cared about and nor should anyone.
 
80% vaccinated.

The backflipping of when it does, doesnt work and the soon to be "He isnt vaccinated, he didnt stand on his tippy toes and sing Gangam Style so he doesnt count" isnt something I have ever cared about and nor should anyone.

As I said, 79% 1 dose according to covidlive, 66% 2 doses. I don't see a backflip or any difference at all really, based on those numbers. Vic and NSW were certainly maintaining restrictions when they were at that point.

You've gone a bit early, thats all. You may be proved right in time but it ain't happened yet.
 
I’ll leave it to Dr. Peter Doshi (editor of the British Medical Journal—BMJ) for the mic-drop article about this ridiculous, efficacy sham.
Here is the inconvenient data of what Doshi calls “The elephant named ‘waning immunity’.”
 
Is it confirmed to be at Langley? Or is it something that's been planted to purposely split up the expected crowd?

I've got a 'poster' meme with the details confirming Langley but can't seem to post it atm. As far as I know it's been moved to Langley Park due to the expected numbers. They're talking 50k+ and I think it will happen(or go close, unless there's an outbreak beforehand lol) - the MSM and places like this website would have you believe it's just a few hundred nutjobs but that is absolute bs(and bizarre how they keep insisting).

Think there's protests happening all over Australia on the 20th, actually, but not 100% on that. The Perth one will be huge.

EDiT: There is some confusion about the place though, good question. I will post more info when it comes to hand and tag you. If you and anyone else could do the same, that would be great.
 
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Murder by covid.

following the WHO standards. Can’t find it, when does the who count jabbed status? If it’s after two weeks this is a bigger con job than I thought.
 
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W.A has announced new border rules

- Visiting dieing relative - 14 days quarantine
- Play cricket - 5 days quarantine

If I decide to play cricket can I evade the virus and not get the vaccine? Seems like Mao has scientifc evidence stating that the game of cricket is a way of combating the virus that we are all missing
Have to wear short sleeves and no hats.
Vitamin D overload.
Science,trust it.
 


Murder by covid.

following the WHO standards. Can’t find it, when does the who count jabbed status? If it’s after two weeks this is a bigger con job than I thought.

Can someone post this in the mandatory vaccination thread on the main board...

They need to see this as they still consider these numbers are real.
 

Thanks for the link but it is just an assertion that it is misinformation and there was a concerted effort to make it go viral. It sounds like a conspiracy theory itself.

I looked up the wikipedia article and got this:

Many of the claims made in the film have been discredited. For example, COVID-19 was not engineered in a laboratory and Event 201, a 2019 disaster response exercise, was not a plan to release a real virus into the population. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation continues to fund projects in India and cooperates with the Indian government on several initiatives; it does not have technology allowing it to covertly implant an invisible proof of vaccination. The CDC's defensive patent covers the genetic material detection methods for human coronaviruses so "public research and communication were not jeopardized by commercial parties seeking exclusive private control".

there is a couple of things wrong with this, not the least being the assertion that the virus wasn't manipulated in a lab. Plenty of evidence to suggest it was, despite the best efforts of the cover-up campaign. And the technology does exist to implant an invisible proof of vaccination, quantum dot tattoos, and they were developed at the behest of you-know-who.


You have previously called it the "Fauci Flu" in these threads, do you now think it was natural in origin? The fuel for conspiracy theorists is when things like this documentary are censored based on fact checkers, only to be found to be true later. If they would lie about the couple of things I mentioned, are they also lying about the other things?
 
You have previously called it the "Fauci Flu" in these threads, do you now think it was natural in origin?

One of my kids the tradie, calls it the "Fauci Flu" but he can call it whatever he likes especially when he's looking for an argument and wants to make sure I'm still paying attention. He's vaccinated.

I'm keeping an open mind as to it's origins, I still think it's likely to be a souped up natural virus that escaped out of the lab.
 
You asked me some similar questions that I responded to in post# 5581, in thread number 2.
My answers to above - I disagree with Mandatory Vaccination and passports, and have actually stated same on a number of occasions to the surprise of many here.
Also, definitely against restricting healthcare to the unvaxxed.

I've said before, the last 20 months should be viewed from the lens of a PANDEMIC.
Everyone would have no issue with the last 20 months, if the original death rates seen in Italy in March of 2020, persisted.
The discord, is that GOVT has been seduced by their Medical Advisors ( who are basking with their time in the sun), into believing we are still in a Pandemic, and GOVT has not had the courage to challenge them, given the Italian death rates did not persist.
If Andrews in March 2020, when announcing expenditure of $1.4 billion on 4,000 ICU beds, was asked whether he would have the state locked down even with over 3900 of these beds empty - I doubt he would have answered yes.
But that's what happened in Nov 2020 - we were still in lockdown, proving the Medico's were dictating policy.

So this is a story of incompetence not Conspiracy IMO.

Going forward, I don't see any justification for lockdowns given the high Vaccination rates, nor do I see GOVT having the stomach for bigger deficits to fund the concurrent subsidies.

Re your earlier post:
Privatization - I'm in favour in non essential areas eg Airports. Melb Airport and other Australian Airports, would never have been developed to what they are today, while being run by Govt/Bureaucrats. Neither would the Public have found the billions being spent on Airports at the expense of Education or Health acceptable.

Totalitarianism - this depends on which side of politics you belong. The right say the left is to proscriptive and interventionist. The left says the right is lacks compassion for the poor and underprivileged.
Ultimate there is a struggle between freedom of the individual and social equality. When viewed from this perspective I don't see Govt policy as Totalitarian going fwd, (notwithstanding the events of the last 20 months), particularly as the voters have the ultimate discretion to arbitrate on over reach.
We do however live in an increasingly more complex world as technology becomes even more pervasive, and that will probably require more, not less legislation.
When you have new tools, you find ways to use them whether you're a criminal, Govt or parent.

Finally, on the issue of mandated lifestyle - its exists today with Alcohol and Smoking, our liberties with regarded to each are dictated by Govt.
Sweets and unhealthy food has been banned from School Canteens. Maccca's have been forced to put dietary information on burgers to assist with better choices by consumers. Tobacco companies forced to place horrific images on their packaging.

The social engineering in respect of health and lifestyle is everywhere, but where it should be MANDATED is arguable.

When you say you're against mandatory vaccination, vaccine passports and no healthcare to those who have chosen to not get vaccinated, would you agree that, in light of the data we now have access to from the last 20 months confirming that COVID is a virus that has a ridiculously low impact on the health of the vast majority that that sets some bad precedents? So when you ask me to explain the 'agenda' that is what I'm talking about.

Do you think that, as you say "GOVT has been seduced by their Medical Advisors ( who are basking with their time in the sun), into believing we are still in a Pandemic, and GOVT has not had the courage to challenge them, given the Italian death rates did not persist" is acceptable? Almost 20 months of it, no less? I mean 'govt hasn't had the courage to tell them' doesn't really cut it, does it? Can you understand why there is pushback from anyone who isn't a halfwit?(look to the threads on the AFL, GD and SRP boards for some genuine halfwit examples. They are overrun with them)

Agree that 'voters have the ultimate discretion to arbitrate on over reach' but the discretionary powers that govt has given themselves are not contingent on them being in power. Those powers remain if voted out, unless the newly voted in govt repeals them. And why would they repeal them when the majority of the voting public has effectively endorsed them? This is a problem. History also confirms that this is par for the course - they don't tend to be rolled back in a hurry, if ever. Again, when you ask me to explain the 'agenda' that is what I'm talking about. Nothing to do with a conspiracy.

And this is the thing, you're all about debunking the conspiracies, but it doesn't actually matter if it's a conspiracy or an agenda or just a monumental ****-up of epic proportions(my choice), because the outcome is the same - more govt overreach, more govt control, less wiggle room and more shit sangas for Joey Joe Public.
 
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One of my kids the tradie, calls it the "Fauci Flu" but he can call it whatever he likes especially when he's looking for an argument and wants to make sure I'm still paying attention. He's vaccinated.

I'm keeping an open mind as to it's origins, I still think it's likely to be a souped up natural virus that escaped out of the lab.
The official narrative is that a lab leak wasn't possible, at least up to a few months ago and the hearings into gain-of-function happened in america. Any videos discussing a lab leak were deleted from youtube up until that time. Suddenly it became a possibility and it was "allowed" to be discussed, but we still had over a year of censorship. It seems at this point things are labelled "misinformation" not because they are wrong, but because it is inconvenient for them to be discussed.
 
The official narrative is that a lab leak wasn't possible, at least up to a few months ago and the hearings into gain-of-function happened in america. Any videos discussing a lab leak were deleted from youtube up until that time. Suddenly it became a possibility and it was "allowed" to be discussed, but we still had over a year of censorship. It seems at this point things are labelled "misinformation" not because they are wrong, but because it is inconvenient for them to be discussed.

Without the evidence, I can't see that any good could have come out of the whole world gossipping about a lab leak and pointing fingers at China when we had to work with them through the pandemic, which took priority.
 
W.A has announced new border rules

- Visiting dieing relative - 14 days quarantine
- Play cricket - 5 days quarantine

If I decide to play cricket can I evade the virus and not get the vaccine? Seems like Mao has scientifc evidence stating that the game of cricket is a way of combating the virus that we are all missing
 
Man shot to death in new Zealand last week, has been added to new Zealand Covid death count.

His autopsy discovered he had or had had covid at some point. New Zealand government were asked to explain.
They're response was they are acting under the instructions of the world health organisation guidelines, which states, that no matter the cause of death, if you've had covid, you are to be recorded as a covid fatality

3 people have been changed with his murder
 
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