Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #5: We're in this together!

[No SPIN]

When you say you're against mandatory vaccination, vaccine passports and no healthcare to those who have chosen to not get vaccinated, would you agree that, in light of the data we now have access to from the last 20 months confirming that COVID is a virus that has a ridiculously low impact on the health of the vast majority that that sets some bad precedents? So when you ask me to explain the 'agenda' that is what I'm talking about.

Do you think that, as you say "GOVT has been seduced by their Medical Advisors ( who are basking with their time in the sun), into believing we are still in a Pandemic, and GOVT has not had the courage to challenge them, given the Italian death rates did not persist" is acceptable? Almost 20 months of it, no less? I mean 'govt hasn't had the courage to tell them' doesn't really cut it, does it? Can you understand why there is pushback from anyone who isn't a halfwit?(look to the threads on the AFL, GD and SRP boards for some genuine halfwit examples. They are overrun with them)

Agree that 'voters have the ultimate discretion to arbitrate on over reach' but the discretionary powers that govt has given themselves are not contingent on them being in power. Those powers remain if voted out, unless the newly voted in govt repeals them. And why would they repeal them when the majority of the voting public has effectively endorsed them? This is a problem. History also confirms that this is par for the course - they don't tend to be rolled back in a hurry, if ever. Again, when you ask me to explain the 'agenda' that is what I'm talking about. Nothing to do with a conspiracy.

And this is the thing, you're all about debunking the conspiracies, but it doesn't actually matter if it's a conspiracy or an agenda or just a monumental ****-up of epic proportions(my choice), because the outcome is the same - more govt overreach, more govt control, less wiggle room and more sh*t sangas for Joey Joe Public.

I agree it’s a monumental **** up.

If as you say the voting Public endorse the new laws - that would be unfortunate, but that’s Democracy at work.
Equally if Mathew Guys goes to an election promising to repeal them, than that would suggest his research sees it as strategic pivot that could win him office.
Either way it’s the voters who’ll decide, and rightly so.

 

[Werewolf]

Just like most Covid deaths are NOT verified to have been caused by Covid because the average age of the victim is >75 and they nearly always have health problems?

you are conflating 2 different issues.
Covid causing death - is a COVID death.
There’s no debate - underlying conditions exists but that’s irrelevant to the argument of cause of death. These people were vulnerable but in most cases otherwise stable, until contracting COVID.
The reason for death is always listed as the primary cause and underlying conditions also noted on the death certificate.

Man shot to death in new Zealand last week, has been added to new Zealand Covid death count.

His autopsy discovered he had or had had covid at some point. New Zealand government were asked to explain.
They're response was they are acting under the instructions of the world health organisation guidelines, which states, that no matter the cause of death, if you've had covid, you are to be recorded as a covid fatality

3 people have been changed with his murder

Interesting

 

[No SPIN]

Interesting

not unless Clawed has some evidence via a link.

 

[Clawed]

Interesting

I can get you the main stream media news report on this. Its been publicly admitted.

Ive known anyway since last year. Same thing done in England. They're recording vaxx deaths as covid deaths as well. In England its a 6 month limit.

Same thing everywhere. Including here

 

[yebiga]

If you had any doubt our western leaders have collectively lost their minds.

Look at this sample from the news just today. Queensland's premier threatening to lockdown the state due to 2 Covid cases. Denmark after reach almost 80% vaccination rates and dropping all pandemic measures 2 months ago including masks is now calling for vaccine passports and lockdowns and to top it all off, Brandon's administration wants to ship masks and vaccines to war zones around the world

News.com
"The Uber driver, a man in his 50s, was vaccinated but the Queensland Premier expressed concern for community transmission given the driver’s access to a wide number of residents while infectious for three days."

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

And if this is the pandemic of the unvaccinated, why the need for boosters?

Is there anyone left in our Government or legacy Media who can tell us anything without lying?

 

[twotooto]

If as you say the voting Public endorse the new laws - that would be unfortunate, but that’s Democracy at work.
Equally if Mathew Guys goes to an election promising to repeal them, than that would suggest his research sees it as strategic pivot that could win him office.
Either way it’s the voters who’ll decide, and rightly so.

Right. But what about the last 20 months? Your words - "GOVT has been seduced by their Medical Advisors ( who are basking with their time in the sun), into believing we are still in a Pandemic, and GOVT has not had the courage to challenge them, given the Italian death rates did not persist". It's a bit convenient to just say 'govt has not had the courage to challenge them'. What the actual? That's your explanation? Really? Maybe govt has just been seduced by the power? Maybe the CHOs are just a convenient patsy? No conspiracy there, that's just politics.

Should govt be held accountable, though? Do you understand why there is pushback? What, so, because govt is scared to challenge the CHOs we should just accept it and move on? What, get the jab and then another jab and then a booster and then another booster(and on and on it goes)for a virus that has virtually zero impact on the health of the vast majority? What, just validate that incompetence, that corruption, that COWARDICE from our govt? Huh? Really?

Do you really think all of the pushback is just from anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists? You say you're against mandatory and passports etc. Isn't that the real issue here? Why are you and the COVID crew obsessed with debunking CTs if that's the real issue? This is why your words are not in accord with your purported ideals. This is why authenticity is lacking. This is why hardly anyone in this thread is smokin' what you're rollin'.

As for your claim that if Mathew Guys repeals the mandates then that's democracy, so what?(and who tf is Mathew Guys? Better yet, who tf cares?) What about the overreach of the last 20 months? Is that not a huge issue? No agenda there mate. No conspiracy.

Yeah, way too many questions for you there and no doubt a waste of time. Will leave it there for now, but I'll leave this post up as an ode to you and your ilk.

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[zill]

Without the evidence, I can't see that any good could have come out of the whole world gossipping about a lab leak and pointing fingers at China when we had to work with them through the pandemic, which took priority.

Like I said, censorship because it isn't convenient to talk about. And it wasn't just about china, the links to american funding were known as well.

 

[Clawed]

Doctors told nurses don't take it, under any circumstances

Government fired them for listening.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Without the evidence, I can't see that any good could have come out of the whole world gossipping about a lab leak and pointing fingers at China when we had to work with them through the pandemic, which took priority.

Fauci was knees deep in this. We shouldn’t blame China for this. It was a team of morons

 

[Clawed]

Fauci was knees deep in this. We shouldn’t blame China for this. It was a team of morons

Alot of faucis emails were redacted.
But the people recieving them and replying were redacted differently. So everything is able to be uncovered. Wuhan was one of many labs involved. It will all be released in a week by a journalist, who investigated all the emails. It took alot of work.

 

[zill]

Yeah, way too many questions for you there and no doubt a waste of time. Will leave it there for now, but I'll leave this post up as an ode to you and your ilk.

Absolutely a waste of time. no spin's debunking efforts don't actually involve any research, just saying they've debunked something seems to be enough for no spin. The link in my signature goes to one of their "debunking" claims. Putting them on ignore is also an option.

 

[Werewolf]

not unless Clawed has some evidence via a link.

You must've scrolled past posts #8565 and #8572

 

[Clawed]

Can someone post this in the mandatory vaccination thread on the main board...

They need to see this as they still consider these numbers are real.

Will it get deleted?

 

[Malifice]

Because this would have never happened in a capitalist society. We'd have never killed small businesses and ruined livlihoods in a capitalist society. It's only the socialist authoritarianism that has allowed this to happen.

What on earth are you on about? Isn't it 'wealthy industrialists, financiers, Big Pharma/ Big Tech, wealthy autocrats and Bill Gates' that are behind all this COVID shit? And arent they all literally the products of Capitalism?

None of them could even exist in Socialism.

Do you even know what Socialism is?

 

[Malifice]

Im just not interested in politics or the systems around it.

Socialism and Capitalism are competing economic models. Not political models.

Socialism = means of production are owned by the State/ Collective, and everyone is treated (and gets) more or less the same.

Capitalism = free market. Means of production are in private hands. Billionaires and the homeless live side by side.

Did you believe in January 2021 we would be herein November 2021 with 80% of a state vaccinated wearing masks/imposing restrictions and contemplating a lockdown because of 2 cases?

Yes of course. I actually hoped we would all be vaccinated to 80 percent earlier, but we screwed up the rollout, and crazy anti-vaxxer gonna Bill Gates and all.

Trust me man, I've wanted to go overseas more than the next bloke. I have a girl waiting for me and that shit wont last forever.

 

[Clawed]

This guy said some horrible things about those who didn't participate in a medical experiment. Now his family getring the kharma. I don't agree with how people enjoy that he died from his booster shot as some are.

I feel sorry for his family who now know he didnt care about them. He was a monster. A pain they will deal with eternally. He made his family victims.

 

[Malifice]

Man dies from gunshot wounds. Listed as a Covid death.

Can someone post this in the mandatory vaccination thread on the main board...

They need to see this as they still consider these numbers are real.

Except that it's not in line with the actual WHO Guidelines:

A- RECORDING COVID-19 ON THE MEDICAL CERTIFICATE OF CAUSE OF DEATH COVID-19 should be recorded on the medical certificate of cause of death for ALL decedents where the disease caused, or is assumed to have caused, or contributed to death.

Guidelines_Cause_of_Death_COVID-19.pdf (who.int)

So unless COVID causes or contributes to your death, it should not be a COVID death.

This dude was shot, so clearly COVID didn't kill him (and according to the WHO guidelines) he shouldnt be listed as a COVID death. Someone ****ed up here.

 

[yebiga]

Our governments, media and intelligence services have been gaslighting the public relentlessly ever since 9/11
No-one could recount all the nonsense that has occurred since. Crazy has been the new normal for over 20 years now. The only difference today, with this pandemic - pardon the pun - is that the mask has been ripped off. And still, a majority of the public can't or refuse to see the bleeding obvious: it's hoaxes all the way down!

What else can you call the war on terror, WMDs, rendition, torture, suicide bombers, the mindless and destructive invasions and occupations, the wilful stoking of civil wars, igniting one war against Al Qeida, then flip sides and fund Al Qeida to run another war against ISIS (a production brought to you by all the same alphabet agencies). How do you begin to comprehend the scale of the manufactured civil war in Syria, Ukraine or Sudan? How about the bloody murder of Ghaddafi and the destruction of perhaps the most progressive nation in Africa? Let's not forget the once great Global Financial Crisis and the mother of all bail-outs - well - until COVID.

Remember, the theatrical chimera we commonly called the Obama Presidency? Remember Barrack, the President who never missed an opportunity to escalate a war, who's policies ushered in the greatest exodus of refugees the world had seen since WW2. Let's not forget our legacy media who fawned over Barrack, lauded everyone of his failures and all but beatified him!

And WTF were the Trump elections but an elaborate gaslighting of one and then the other side of politics. What was Trump, Russia-gate, 2 impeachments, an endless daily screeching of racism and the imminent end of the world? What was any of it really about but to make us all insane? The entire 4 years of the Trump Presidency felt like the entire world had become one large kindergarten, where all the kids are tired and cranky because some fool had given them too much red-cordial - it was like that, every god damn day for over 4 years.

And just as you might begin to hope we are over the worst of it - Nope - they landed a global flu pandemic hoax on our asses. And this new fraud also daily escalates from farce to tragedy and beyond: face masks, lockdowns, and curfews, to mandatory injections of experimental high-tech genetic drugs that are still officially Clinical trials!

At this point, anyone retaining a shred of sanity - is sure to be bewildered, bewitched and bemused - only this show is not over by a long shot. And - to ensure you don't forget it - they've upgraded Trump with a senile and incontinent Brandon and waiting in the wings, they have the cackling/giggling airhead - Harris.

Real idiocy - it seems - has stamina - for after 21 years - there remains no end in sight: get ready for your tutti fruity Boosters!
But Look, RACISM! Look Climate change! Look! I was a boy now I'm a girl! Look, anywhere but where you should.

 

[yebiga]

Except that it's not in line with the actual WHO Guidelines:



Guidelines_Cause_of_Death_COVID-19.pdf (who.int)

So unless COVID causes or contributes to your death, it should not be a COVID death.

This dude was shot, so clearly COVID didn't kill him (and according to the WHO guidelines) he shouldnt be listed as a COVID death. Someone f’ed up here.

You reckon?

 

[Malifice]

This guy said some horrible things about those who didn't participate in a medical experiment. Now his family getring the kharma. I don't agree with how people enjoy that he died from his booster shot as some are.

I feel sorry for his family who now know he didnt care about them. He was a monster. A pain they will deal with eternally. He made his family victims.

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sorryantivaxxer.com | A repository of stories of anti-vaxxers who died or came close to dying of COVID.

A site you should all check out for yourselves.

Every single death verifiable (check for yourself each death). Every dead person an antivaxxer who died from COVID, in hospital and unable to breathe.

 

[Clawed]

So the vaxxed have got metal in thier blood apparently.

Are they trying to make terminators?
Robo cops?

Are vaxxed people starring to like heavy metal music more? They are after all metal heads now.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

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sorryantivaxxer.com | A repository of stories of anti-vaxxers who died or came close to dying of COVID.

A site you should all check out for yourselves.

Every single death verifiable (check for yourself each death). Every dead person an antivaxxer who died from COVID, in hospital and unable to breathe.

have they put the murdered New Zealander yet?

 

[Clawed]

have they put the murdered New Zealander yet?

The new Zealand government has admitted they are following who guidelines, yet he denies it. He thinks he knows better.

Hes spreading tin foil hat conspiracy theories. Its worse than flat earthers.