Coronavirus/COVID-19

[Black Dog]

You do know vaccines are to reduce the symptoms of covid?

It doesn't make you immune from it or prevent it from spreading. Happy to be wrong

No, as others have said, it does reduce the viral load and therefore the symptoms that cause transmission such as sneezing and coughing. You are right that the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting Covid but it does prevent severe Covid and hugely decreases transmission.

 

[doggies ftw]

Just cut crowds to 10% then jam anyone lucky enough to get a ticket in one tiny section right next to each other. Close all the entries except for one so we all have to shuffle in together and obviously close all toilets and bars except for one so we’re all constantly in close contact. I mean that’s what they’ve done every other time so what’s gonna be different

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

A positive case today a man in his 50s had symptoms for 10 days before he got tested ******* idiot

for getting tested?

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

You do know vaccines are to reduce the symptoms of covid?

It doesn't make you immune from it or prevent it from spreading. Happy to be wrong

Of course, but chances of spreading it are low and chances of getting sick is very low.

If everyone were vaccinated what’s the problem?

In America where vaccine rates are only about 40 per cent, the pandemic is dying out fast.

 

[ScragCity]

I keep hearing that we have plenty of vaccine supplies but the uptake hasn’t been very good. When would I, a healthy 36 year old, be eligible? We need to stop wasting time and vaccinate anyone willing.

Sorry if I'm getting caught up in semantics here but when you say "uptake" it sounds to me like the implication is that people are choosing not to get the vaccine; that isn't what has happened. The Federal Government have made an absolute mess of the vaccine rollout and it's taking way longer than it should for everyone to get it.

 

[Pugz89]

So in terms of the vaccine rollout, what can be improved? Is it the fact Aus is so far down the global pecking order that we don't have the stock to vaccinate at the rate other countries can, or is it the actual logistical process of getting the vaccines from the manufacturer into the arm, so to speak?

 

[ossie_21]

for getting tested?

After symptoms for 10 days? Absolutely

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Chadwiko]

Sorry if I'm getting caught up in semantics here but when you say "uptake" it sounds to me like the implication is that people are choosing not to get the vaccine; that isn't what has happened. The Federal Government have made an absolute mess of the vaccine rollout and it's taking way longer than it should for everyone to get it.

It's both.

Commonwealth government have done an atrocious job of the roll-out, but equally true is that the current priority group (over 50s) have also been extremely poor at getting vaccinated - there's a lot of hesitancy to take the AZ shot even though the risk is infintismally small.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Sorry if I'm getting caught up in semantics here but when you say "uptake" it sounds to me like the implication is that people are choosing not to get the vaccine; that isn't what has happened. The Federal Government have made an absolute mess of the vaccine rollout and it's taking way longer than it should for everyone to get it.

People are choosing not to get the vaccine. I know some. Vaccination hubs are reporting low attendance in spite of eligibility relaxation. They have been frightened off AZ and think Pfizer will be “safer”.

 

[adogsfan5]

It's both.

Commonwealth government have done an atrocious job of the roll-out, but equally true is that the current priority group (over 50s) have also been extremely poor at getting vaccinated - there's a lot of hesitancy to take the AZ shot even though the risk is infintismally small.

There’s still a decent portion of aged care
Who need to be vaccinated. This should have been completed a long time ago.

Regarding the small risk- it’s not helping that news outlets are going with the figure of 1 in 100,000 getting blood clots.

 

[Chadwiko]

There’s still a decent portion of aged care
Who need to be vaccinated. This should have been completed a long time ago.

Regarding the small risk- it’s not helping that news outlets are going with the figure of 1 in 100,000 getting blood clots.

Agreed on all counts.

 

[ScragCity]

People are choosing not to get the vaccine. I know some. Vaccination hubs are reporting low attendance in spite of eligibility relaxation. They have been frightened off AZ and think Pfizer will be “safer”.

Yes, some people will choose not to get the vaccine; that's not debatable. My point was that vaccine hesitancy is not the reason that such a small amount of the population have been vaccinated. If everyone who wanted the vaccine could get it then we would have the majority of the population done by now.

 

[beyondthevalley ofthedogs]

Yes, some people will choose not to get the vaccine; that's not debatable. My point was that vaccine hesitancy is not the reason that such a small amount of the population have been vaccinated. If everyone who wanted the vaccine could get it then we would have the majority of the population done by now.

If you were cynical you could say the ambiguity in the messaging from the Federal Government causing a great deal of vaccine hesitancy is a pretty good smokescreen for their failure to supply. by the way for all you over 50s (like me) for FFS get vaccinated. Or we'll be in this pattern for another year. No thanks.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

How many people actually know how to get the vaccine?

There’s been **** all media promoting the roll out and “how to” ads on TV. It should be all over TV and Radio encouraging people to get it and outlining the process and locations.

An absolute cluster **** by the federal government and Do Nothing Scotty. The bloke couldn’t tee up a root in a brothel!!

 

[Chicago1]

Hopefully I'll be getting my first jab tomorrow. Took my GP a while to get the vaccine.

 

[LittleG]

I just don't understand why we need a 10-day restriction period for contact tracers to do their thing when they can't even do it properly to begin with. FFS. Gonna be another rough winter in Vic.

The thing that frustrates me the most is all of 1A is vaccinated, a significant part of 1B is also vaccinated. So the highest risk folks should be covered anyway, so there shouldn't be the same reaction as historic situations like this imo.

1A - not even close to being vaccinated. I have 12 relatives that are 1A, none have had the two jabs and only 5 have had 1 jab. ALL are wanting to have an injection.

1B - that’s even worse..... disability care residents have

Federal government SHOULD have completed both those groups by now. With statements like “people can wait for a Pfizer”.... this is creating hesitancy in many people.

What I find surprising is that most adults I know who are overseas have got at least 1 shot. That includes people in the third world.... yet I can’t get a shot today.

 

[The City Boyz]

You do know vaccines are to reduce the symptoms of covid?

It doesn't make you immune from it or prevent it from spreading. Happy to be wrong

Nah, Pfizer reduces your chance of catching it by 96% and your chance of passing it on by 80%+
AZ is slightly lower but nevertheless very good

 

[MYOB]

The problem with the Vaccine roll-out is that is has been put in to stages for the respective categories, based on the the the fact that they didn't have enough supply to handle a rush.

Then before they got the big number of doses they needed, issues started showing up with AZ, putting doubt in to people's minds.

Now they have the supply, but not the demand, as people are putting it off.

So without the demand of over 50's, they need to open it up to over 30's and start getting the as many people as possible vaccinated.

It doesn't help with Health Minster's come out and say wait for Pfizer if you'd prefer.

 

[NBates]

If you were cynical you could say the ambiguity in the messaging from the Federal Government causing a great deal of vaccine hesitancy is a pretty good smokescreen for their failure to supply. by the way for all you over 50s (like me) for FFS get vaccinated. Or we'll be in this pattern for another year. No thanks.

When I went last week I had to sit in waiting area for a while. They called me into jab cubicle and apologised for the wait but said we were still waiting as they had run out! I didn't have to wait too long but the whole process was a bit of a **** up. I even booked and both bookings and walk ins were in the same line and no priority given to bookings. Other half went to Showgrounds yesterday and it was all smooth sailing.

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[Doggy]

4 more cases... we're not getting to the game

 

[Boristown]

4 more cases... we're not getting to the game

Household contacts of the initial cases.

 

[Mofra]

Team in quarantine.
Not looking good

 

[doggies ftw]

4 more cases... we're not getting to the game

All household contacts though, surely there’s no rash decisions until we actually know it’s out and about in the community. They’ve said that 80 out of 150 odd household contacts have already returned back negative tests. If it’s spreading at less than 50% to people you literally live in the same house with, surely the chances of you getting it just by being in the same shop as someone for 1min are next to zero.

 

[Royale]