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Cousins was out at a ball last night, did nothing wrong and WC say will not affect his return
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why?? he never tested positive to anything. If they tried to ban him from the game they wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.
ooo yes i forgot. its easy to say this about players from other teams - particularly the better players isn't it.
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Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
See now your'e becoming paranoid.
1. I think its silly/stupid for a player under so much scrutiny to further flame a situation
2. I agree journos will increase a stories potential by innuendo 1 hundredfold
3. If I was an Eagles supporter, I would ask myself how serious is Ben Cousins in returning to the team?
4. If he is serious , what % is he letting himself down and the team?
What you and many of the others forget is that it is a TEAM game and that if each and every individual in that team is putting in 100% then results should follow...oh wait you won the flag on the back of last years effort so you believe you can just do it all again?
See now your'e becoming paranoid.
1. I think its silly/stupid for a player under so much scrutiny to further flame a situation
2. I agree journos will increase a stories potential by innuendo 1 hundredfold
3. If I was an Eagles supporter, I would ask myself how serious is Ben Cousins in returning to the team?
4. If he is serious , what % is he letting himself down and the team?
What you and many of the others forget is that it is a TEAM game and that if each and every individual in that team is putting in 100% then results should follow...oh wait you won the flag on the back of last years effort so you believe you can just do it all again?
Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
You're the idiot.
Who cares if he was out? I could see the point of the Eagles "headaches" if he was snorting cocaine off a hooker in the middle of the bar followed by punching out bouncers, team-mates and taxi drivers, but the bloke should be allowed to have a life and not have to live like a hermit if he doesn't want to.
You're the idiot.
Who cares if he was out? I could see the point of the Eagles "headaches" if he was snorting cocaine off a hooker in the middle of the bar followed by punching out bouncers, team-mates and taxi drivers, but the bloke should be allowed to have a life and not have to live like a hermit if he doesn't want to.
Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
This whole Benspotting garbage has reached ridiculous levels. We've even got journo's club officials and assorted bigfooyites trying to claim he DIDNT take any drugs and didnt have a drink...as if they would know.
Were u with him ?...what about in the car on the way home ?...with him in his dunny at 4.30 am ?
When was the last time u saw a bloke putting up a big sign in a club saying "I'm about to do a few lines of coke "...call me naive but most people with half a brain dont actually advertise it for all to see and we gotta assume Benny still has at least one brain cell left.
All anyone is doing is assuming...that includes his club, the sad benspotters and the AFL....the people saying he HASNT had a drink or taken any drugs are just as dumb as the ones saying he should be banned for yrs. He can still do whatever he likes and get away with it.
Personally i doubt very much if he'd be dumb enough to risk it ...but ya gotta love the naive reports saying "he didnt drink or take drugs"
This whole Benspotting garbage has reached ridiculous levels. We've even got journo's club officials and assorted bigfooyites trying to claim he DIDNT take any drugs and didnt have a drink...as if they would know.
Were u with him ?...what about in the car on the way home ?...with him in his dunny at 4.30 am ?
When was the last time u saw a bloke putting up a big sign in a club saying "I'm about to do a few lines of coke "...call me naive but most people with half a brain dont actually advertise it for all to see and we gotta assume Benny still has at least one brain cell left.
All anyone is doing is assuming...that includes his club, the sad benspotters and the AFL....the people saying he HASNT had a drink or taken any drugs are just as dumb as the ones saying he should be banned for yrs. He can still do whatever he likes and get away with it.
Personally i doubt very much if he'd be dumb enough to risk it ...but ya gotta love the naive reports saying "he didnt drink or take drugs"
Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
Its the sad fact of drugs in sport...might be something we accept in normal life but for public figures and professional sportsmen in particular its obviously different...they never live down the stigma of the great unknown...ruins their career.
Can anyone be sure of what he was doing over the last 5 yrs ?...can anyone be absolutely sure he wasnt having a tiny amount of amphetamines pregame just for a slight edge ? Can anyone be absolutely sure he now hasnt got a problem ?
Argue about it all u like but it still comes down to both arguments needing to make assumptions....best to assume he's given the junk away and let him get on with it...if he hasnt he'll hang himself at some point.
Its the sad fact of drugs in sport...might be something we accept in normal life but for public figures and professional sportsmen in particular its obviously different...they never live down the stigma of the great unknown...ruins their career.
Can anyone be sure of what he was doing over the last 5 yrs ?...can anyone be absolutely sure he wasnt having a tiny amount of amphetamines pregame just for a slight edge ? Can anyone be absolutely sure he now hasnt got a problem ?
Argue about it all u like but it still comes down to both arguments needing to make assumptions....best to assume he's given the junk away and let him get on with it...if he hasnt he'll hang himself at some point.
Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
If it were the other way around and a story came out where he was completly smashed... then I would be more skeptical. But the media has given us an innocent story against their will... so there musn't be much in it.
Just putting two and two together.
No I wasn't with him... but I'm assuming if he did take drugs or alcohol, we'd know about it. The media wants a story... like they wouldn't hear if Cousins got completly smashed and hit on every woman in the place.
If it were the other way around and a story came out where he was completly smashed... then I would be more skeptical. But the media has given us an innocent story against their will... so there musn't be much in it.
Just putting two and two together.
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Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
Are you sure what you said is correct. Various sources contradict you on the net.
Nabil DaBag was shot 5 times in the arms & legs and Troy Mercanti was charged with unlawful wounding. Police alleged Kizon & Coffin Cheaters associate David Morris, tried to "clean up" the scene, including hosing blood from floors, erasing a security tape and disposing of the gun used to shoot Dabag.
Western Australian Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan said he was disappointed Cousins and Gardiner had not co-operated with the investigation, considering it to be a bad example to young people
Police believe the Eagles stars had the discussions shortly before and immediately after the fight took place. It is alleged the conversations involved one of two men charged with disposing of the gun fired in the brawl
source: various
Are you sure what you said is correct. Various sources contradict you on the net.
Nabil DaBag was shot 5 times in the arms & legs and Troy Mercanti was charged with unlawful wounding. Police alleged Kizon & Coffin Cheaters associate David Morris, tried to "clean up" the scene, including hosing blood from floors, erasing a security tape and disposing of the gun used to shoot Dabag.
Western Australian Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan said he was disappointed Cousins and Gardiner had not co-operated with the investigation, considering it to be a bad example to young people
Police believe the Eagles stars had the discussions shortly before and immediately after the fight took place. It is alleged the conversations involved one of two men charged with disposing of the gun fired in the brawl
source: various
irish_setanta
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Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
Who gives a shit, leave him alone. Over it.
Who gives a shit, leave him alone. Over it.
Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
What I dont understand is why so many of the Druggy supporters continually defend little Benny. I would be so dirty on him for letting the team down to the point that they may miss a back to back and for not really showing that he cares.
If he did care he would be doing everything in his power to reduce the media scrutiny on the club. How does the President feel having to make excuses ever week?
Its not that hard to stay home for a couple of weeks benny. FFS you live in Perth.
What I dont understand is why so many of the Druggy supporters continually defend little Benny. I would be so dirty on him for letting the team down to the point that they may miss a back to back and for not really showing that he cares.
If he did care he would be doing everything in his power to reduce the media scrutiny on the club. How does the President feel having to make excuses ever week?
Its not that hard to stay home for a couple of weeks benny. FFS you live in Perth.
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Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
Agh the White Mitsubishis were nice.
The best I've had were green Euro Dollars.
White Mitsubishis.
Agh the White Mitsubishis were nice.
The best I've had were green Euro Dollars.
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Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
It won't be for just a couple of weeks though - this sort of scrutiny is going to haunt him for the rest of his life unless he does something about it.
What he is doing makes sense. Go out, show the world there is no big deal in it and maybe they will stop harassing him.
What would be worse would be living like a hermit for a year, then unexpectedly showing up in a nightclub. Can you imagine the rumour mill then ???
Lucky you're not involved in any work with alcoholics. You'd bar them from pubs, bars, dinner parties, barbeques etc etc.
What I dont understand is why so many of the Druggy supporters continually defend little Benny. I would be so dirty on him for letting the team down to the point that they may miss a back to back and for not really showing that he cares.
If he did care he would be doing everything in his power to reduce the media scrutiny on the club. How does the President feel having to make excuses ever week?
Its not that hard to stay home for a couple of weeks benny. FFS you live in Perth.
It won't be for just a couple of weeks though - this sort of scrutiny is going to haunt him for the rest of his life unless he does something about it.
What he is doing makes sense. Go out, show the world there is no big deal in it and maybe they will stop harassing him.
What would be worse would be living like a hermit for a year, then unexpectedly showing up in a nightclub. Can you imagine the rumour mill then ???
Lucky you're not involved in any work with alcoholics. You'd bar them from pubs, bars, dinner parties, barbeques etc etc.
Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
I meant, keep a low profile until you are back playing footy. After that, then just follow your contract.
I meant, keep a low profile until you are back playing footy. After that, then just follow your contract.
Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
I mean obviously he could go home and get smashed away from the public. But when he's out in the public eye 99% of anything he does wrong will be heard about. I'm sure anyone that is has that sort of status would agree with me.
You disagree with the rest of my post? I don't know why. It's logical.
I mean obviously he could go home and get smashed away from the public. But when he's out in the public eye 99% of anything he does wrong will be heard about. I'm sure anyone that is has that sort of status would agree with me.
Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
ok...the first time could be mistaken for just being naive ...but repeating it is just reinforcing something u may not want to hear about yourself.
ok...the first time could be mistaken for just being naive ...but repeating it is just reinforcing something u may not want to hear about yourself.
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To all the losers that say we should be supporting him. Why should I support a known drug addict? If the AFL had a normal drug policy instead of the 3 strikes rule, he would have been gone already like Justin Charles was. But I guess Charles wasn't a champion player unlike Cousins, it seems there's one rule for champions and another rule for lesser likes. 
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Oh of course we couldn't ban a known drug addict, he wasn't tested, despite admitting he takes drugs!
Oh of course we couldn't ban a known drug addict, he wasn't tested, despite admitting he takes drugs!
At least he came out with it. I garuntee he's one of many AFL players (yes even some from the goodie 2 shoes Sydney Swans) that take party drugs.
Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
Only if they are ******ed. Do you have any idea about the amount of drugs used in the bathroom of clubs. You don't need to do lines or pop a pill on the dance floor, you can be more discreet about it as most drug users are.
Only if they are ******ed. Do you have any idea about the amount of drugs used in the bathroom of clubs. You don't need to do lines or pop a pill on the dance floor, you can be more discreet about it as most drug users are.
So he just went to rehab to get over his addiction to lolly pops, did he?
He never came out and admitted anything, other than some obscure words about personal issues. He never said I am an addict or have a substance abuse problem, his father did that. Cousins could handle this situation so much better.
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Re: Ben Cousins in the news for the wrong reasons (again)
Stupid ****ing West Coast supporter.
Is the concept of perception too hard for you to understand?? A self-confessed drug addict does not do his reputation any good by being spotted at a nightclub at 3am - especially when he is supposed to be confirming to his employer how serious he is about returning to his job. I mean what a joke Cousins is. Really he should just give it up now he has no clue - much like you really...
Stupid ****ing West Coast supporter.
Is the concept of perception too hard for you to understand?? A self-confessed drug addict does not do his reputation any good by being spotted at a nightclub at 3am - especially when he is supposed to be confirming to his employer how serious he is about returning to his job. I mean what a joke Cousins is. Really he should just give it up now he has no clue - much like you really...
If he hasnt tested positive for anything then he should take this reporter and the newspaper to court immediately.
Cousins' late nights a concern
Mark Duffield, Perth | June 27, 2007
WEST Coast is pressing ahead with contract negotiations for Ben Cousins' return to AFL despite claims he had been spotted partying into the morning on three of the past four nights.
Eagles chief executive Trevor Nisbett remains optimistic that Cousins' rehabilitation from addiction to the methamphetamine known as ice is on track.
However, there is growing concern at West Coast that, at the very least, Cousins' night-owl ways are bringing him and the club unwanted attention and attracting speculation about his progress. Final approval for his return to football is still to come from both the club and the AFL.
Media reports claimed that Cousins had late nights over the weekend at nightclubs, then attended the hospitality industry's "Nocturnal Ball" on Monday night, and that the Eagles have counselled Cousins about going out too much.
Channel Seven last night claimed Nisbett had warned Cousins and said: "I wouldn't go (out late at night) if I was in that position. It was not clever, it was stupid."
Nisbett confirmed speaking with Cousins yesterday about his attendance at the ball at Metro City in Northbridge, but dismissed speculation that Cousins had had a wild night out.
"I spoke to him again this morning," he said. "He went to the Nocturnal Ball last night and everyone is trying to pin something on him for going but he went there last night and left around about 3.30am or 4am. He was good this morning and things are going well with him."
The AFL is believed to be concerned about Cousins' late nights but is yet to comment on latest reports.
The Cousins contract issue has progressed, with parts of the proposed deal being scrutinised by lawyers acting for the 2005 Brownlow Medallist this week.
"We are still making good progress," Nisbett said. "He has got most of the stuff and a bit of the stuff has gone to his lawyers. Once all of the lawyers have looked over everything we hope to be able to sit down and go through any questions and queries.
"There are a couple of little things that we are still working on with the AFL but other than that we are thinking we are getting reasonably close to sitting down and making sure we have got a final position."
Nisbett said Cousins was training hard on his own but the sooner the club got him back within the group the better.
"He freely says, 'As fit as I am, it is not the same as training with a group of blokes', and he really misses the players; he really misses the camaraderie.
"All that stuff we discuss regularly and we would like to get him back on the track as soon as possible — as soon as we lift the suspension. That hopefully will be done sooner rather than later but I don't want to pin a time on it because I just don't know if there is going to be a hiccup along the way."
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Oh ok, so it's wrong for me to accuse Cousins of taking drugs, but you can accuse Sydney players of taking drugs? I'm taking a line from plenty of Weagles supporters. Where's your proof that Sydney players take drugs? So it's ok to take drugs off season as long as he's not taking drugs during the season?
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