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Our 70% and 80% (16+) targets for staged reopening strike me as low but are better than those adopted by others. IIRC herd immunity rates for rubella are around 95%. The Delta variant has proved highly contagious and who knows with the next variants.
So they are but from a Vic perspective they are still quite restrictive and only to the vaccinated. For example: theatres. Max 150 patrons that are fully vaccinated. Regardless of space. So big theatres with 6 or 700 seats will still be at max 25% full. We will still have to QR code and isolate if a primary close contact until those 90 and 95% marks

My hope (from an uneducated position in the medical field) is that when we do hit 95% of total population double vaccinated with whatever boosters that are required, it will just be treated like the flu and we all look back on this as an important learning experience
 
So they are but from a Vic perspective they are still quite restrictive and only to the vaccinated. For example: theatres. Max 150 patrons that are fully vaccinated. Regardless of space. So big theatres with 6 or 700 seats will still be at max 25% full. We will still have to QR code and isolate if a primary close contact until those 90 and 95% marks

My hope (from an uneducated position in the medical field) is that when we do hit 95% of total population double vaccinated with whatever boosters that are required, it will just be treated like the flu and we all look back on this as an important learning experience

That is my hope too.

At my age and health status I have long reconciled myself to never again going to the footy, the movies, plays, live music or restaurants. It is now 18 months since I have had a cheap and cheerful Yum Cha with a big Table of mates.

But everyone has similar and much worse stories than my minor gripes. It is obviously an unspeakable time for young people. How that translates behaviourally is anyone's guess.

A couple of days ago I intervened when four teenage boys dumped their bikes on the footpath and went into a shop - blocking a woman with a pram and an oldie using a walking aide. I got out of my car and move the bikes with a young bloke in his 20s. A faintly menacing scene ensued. I know one of the teens who lives a few doors up from me and he looked a bit shamefaced and was silent.

The four are no doubt good kids but frustrated beyond what I can imagine.

No doubt scenes like this are everyday occurrences.
 

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Despite being fully vaccinated, I'm not allowed to quarantine at home and am expected to cough up $5000 for the privilege of staying in some shithole hotel if I come back for the holidays.

****ing Wonderful.
 
Mate we are living in Victoria, where is not better atm

laughing stock of the world , this isn’t living

joint is completely fuxked and will get worse
Tennesee same population of Vic has had 18,000 plus die of Covid , we are not that bad . The f'd up by not closing Hume etc
 

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I heard that spill before from andrews

be booster shots next and why we are not allowed out

anyway sick of talking about it

be interesting to see people’s views when he makes you start jabbing ya kids just to go to school with a substance that’s been around for a few months
As a kid we had jabs every year at school . We didn't have scum rags and media like Murdoch trots out.
 
It is mate for people who have no life. Some people have very limited lives. People who have meaning and purpose in their lives have the same view as you about this current shithole at the moment don't worry about that.
It's so sad what this Wuhan virus has done to all
 
That is incredibly narrow minded and really poor form, mate


Why is it ? Because you think it may be generalising people or putting them in a category ? Yet You have people on here blaming certain demographics and races and media outlets for making this situation what it is ? Isn't that narrow minded ? If your offended by it apologies and if you are not one of those people great but I stick by what I say.
 
So there we have it folks… it’s official!
If your not whinging and whining about life in a pandemic, your life has no meaning or purpose… straight from the man who writes the standards.
Sometimes you’ve just gotta sit back and marvel at the wisdom of some of the stuff around here.
 
So there we have it folks… it’s official!
If your not whinging and whining about life in a pandemic, your life has no meaning or purpose… straight from the man who writes the standards.
Sometimes you’ve just gotta sit back and marvel at the wisdom of some of the stuff around here.

I set standards you are right. My own. Not low life standards so if the cap fits wear it Mr Pontificator. Why don’t you and a few others on here try getting out of each other’s arse for a while. Your little group are ****ing nauseating.

End communication.
 
I set standards you are right. My own. Not low life standards so if the cap fits wear it Mr Pontificator. Why don’t you and a few others on here try getting out of each other’s arse for a while. Your little group are ****ing nauseating.

End communication.

Aaahh… you’ve still got it bud
 
Why is it ? Because you think it may be generalising people or putting them in a category ? Yet You have people on here blaming certain demographics and races and media outlets for making this situation what it is ? Isn't that narrow minded ? If your offended by it apologies and if you are not one of those people great but I stick by what I say.
I am not talking about who is blaming who for what because you can put the blame on anyone for any mistake if you go back far enough. You can blame individuals/LGAs for breaking the rules, who can blame the NSW government for leaking out delta, who can blame the federal government for not getting vaccines or building quarantine facilities, who can blame the state governments for not doing HQ properly, who can blame China for not controlling the disease early on, who can blame the guy who ate the bat originally and on and on it goes.

I am offended by your view that because someone might live a different way or may adapt to certain situations differently to you, suddenly their lives have no purpose or meaning. This pandemic I managed to get a stable, good job in an industry that is actually dying to the pandemic and am finally in a financial position to purchase my own home which has been a dream of mine since I was teen. My sister is finally pregnant with a stable baby after years of trying with her husband and losing multiple babies early on in pregnancy. She is a primary school teacher who has to do online learning when looking at a screen for too long makes her throw up.

Now both of us have had to adapt our lives very differently to how they were before. Managed to still find joy in our hobbies, work on projects. Hell, I feel like I see my family more now than I used to with all the video chats my nieces want to do.

But because we all accept lockdown as a way of protecting the health system until we have enough vaccine coverage, suddenly our lives have no purpose or meaning to you? Because when I want to visit my girlfriend I make sure I am off the roads by 9pm I live a limited life?

I find my life quite fulfilling. I take pride in my work and believe I do good work for my community with it. I believe I have quite good relationships with friends and family. I take my time to enjoy my hobbies. They may be different than yours but that doesn't make either of them less valid.

So yes, I do find your statement very narrow minded and I would suggest you open up your view of what is limited and has purpose and who knows, you might find something else you could become passionate about that you never even knew was out there.
 
I am not talking about who is blaming who for what because you can put the blame on anyone for any mistake if you go back far enough. You can blame individuals/LGAs for breaking the rules, who can blame the NSW government for leaking out delta, who can blame the federal government for not getting vaccines or building quarantine facilities, who can blame the state governments for not doing HQ properly, who can blame China for not controlling the disease early on, who can blame the guy who ate the bat originally and on and on it goes.

I am offended by your view that because someone might live a different way or may adapt to certain situations differently to you, suddenly their lives have no purpose or meaning. This pandemic I managed to get a stable, good job in an industry that is actually dying to the pandemic and am finally in a financial position to purchase my own home which has been a dream of mine since I was teen. My sister is finally pregnant with a stable baby after years of trying with her husband and losing multiple babies early on in pregnancy. She is a primary school teacher who has to do online learning when looking at a screen for too long makes her throw up.

Now both of us have had to adapt our lives very differently to how they were before. Managed to still find joy in our hobbies, work on projects. Hell, I feel like I see my family more now than I used to with all the video chats my nieces want to do.

But because we all accept lockdown as a way of protecting the health system until we have enough vaccine coverage, suddenly our lives have no purpose or meaning to you? Because when I want to visit my girlfriend I make sure I am off the roads by 9pm I live a limited life?

I find my life quite fulfilling. I take pride in my work and believe I do good work for my community with it. I believe I have quite good relationships with friends and family. I take my time to enjoy my hobbies. They may be different than yours but that doesn't make either of them less valid.

So yes, I do find your statement very narrow minded and I would suggest you open up your view of what is limited and has purpose and who knows, you might find something else you could become passionate about that you never even knew was out there.

Some people are just contrarian for the sake of it, makes them feel like they're contributing 'something'.

The nice thing about pandemics is that they tend to remove these kind of people from society, permanently.

And nothing of value was lost.
 
I am not talking about who is blaming who for what because you can put the blame on anyone for any mistake if you go back far enough. You can blame individuals/LGAs for breaking the rules, who can blame the NSW government for leaking out delta, who can blame the federal government for not getting vaccines or building quarantine facilities, who can blame the state governments for not doing HQ properly, who can blame China for not controlling the disease early on, who can blame the guy who ate the bat originally and on and on it goes.

I am offended by your view that because someone might live a different way or may adapt to certain situations differently to you, suddenly their lives have no purpose or meaning. This pandemic I managed to get a stable, good job in an industry that is actually dying to the pandemic and am finally in a financial position to purchase my own home which has been a dream of mine since I was teen. My sister is finally pregnant with a stable baby after years of trying with her husband and losing multiple babies early on in pregnancy. She is a primary school teacher who has to do online learning when looking at a screen for too long makes her throw up.

Now both of us have had to adapt our lives very differently to how they were before. Managed to still find joy in our hobbies, work on projects. Hell, I feel like I see my family more now than I used to with all the video chats my nieces want to do.

But because we all accept lockdown as a way of protecting the health system until we have enough vaccine coverage, suddenly our lives have no purpose or meaning to you? Because when I want to visit my girlfriend I make sure I am off the roads by 9pm I live a limited life?

I find my life quite fulfilling. I take pride in my work and believe I do good work for my community with it. I believe I have quite good relationships with friends and family. I take my time to enjoy my hobbies. They may be different than yours but that doesn't make either of them less valid.

So yes, I do find your statement very narrow minded and I would suggest you open up your view of what is limited and has purpose and who knows, you might find something else you could become passionate about that you never even knew was out there.
Could not have said it better myself. Well done mate.
 

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