Cricket Discussion - Part 2

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Its a Paki thing.

Whilst in Oz we had electric light cricket and indoor cricket the Pakis fast social game is tape ball cricket. Ive heard Wasim Alram talk about it in podcasts and how he developed his swing bowling playing the game.

In the 90s and early 00s there was the indoor cricket world cup and whilst those guys werent professional there was some decent prize money involved.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
Its a Paki thing.

Whilst in Oz we had electric light cricket and indoor cricket the Pakis fast social game is tape ball cricket. Ive heard Wasim Alram talk about it in podcasts and how he developed his swing bowling playing the game.

In the 90s and early 00s there was the indoor cricket world cup and whilst those guys werent professional there was some decent prize money involved.
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Indoor Cricket had its own sub culture…it was bordering on pathetic…geez there were some sad units there
 
raptalia said:
Yeah, right. Just when we thought we had seen enough tweaks to the game some idiot comes up with this...

www.abc.net.au

Tape ball is attracting hundreds of participants around Australia. So what is it?

On suburban ovals across Australia, a new sport is building momentum and its basic ingredients include a tennis ball wrapped in electrical tape. It could also be the secret to finding the nation's next spin kings.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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I'd argue it's a very grass roots form of the game that grew in the subcontinent through a lack of facilities and infrastructure. People who love the game of cricket and improvise based on their surroundings.

Much like futsal and football.
 

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western royboy said:
Indoor Cricket had its own sub culture…it was bordering on pathetic…geez there were some sad units there
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Careful royboy, I played and umpired Indoor Cricket for a couple of years. The game originated in WA and the first indoor centre in Adelaide opened on Grand Junction Road Pennington in the early 1980s. It was housed in the old migrant hostel and was sponsored by Smiths of Port Adelaide. They originally had indoor lawn bowls greens in the building but they ripped them out to install indoor cricket nets. A bloke by the name of Johnson bought it across from the West.

I remember umpiring a celebrity game there once and the late David Hookes played. Hooksey was beaten ends up and bowled by a part timer and David was not too happy about it. It put me in mind of a story my father told about Don Bradman. The Don was fresh from a tour of England and fronted for Kensington against Port Adelaide at Alberton. The locals flocked to see the great man bat but he was dismissed in the first over by a quick from Cheltenham. Just as they flocked to see the Don so they flocked to see Hooksey and both cases the crowds left disappointed.

Indoor Cricket streaked across the Adelaide cricketing scene like a meteor then burnt itself out. I am not sure if there are any centres still operating in Adelaide.

If we go back even further in time I can remember going to watch my father play electric light cricket in the Adelaide Parklands at the courts in Peacock Rd. That would have been in the late 1950s to early 1960s. Wow, I must be old.
 
raptalia said:
Careful royboy, I played and umpired Indoor Cricket for a couple of years. The game originated in WA and the first indoor centre in Adelaide opened on Grand Junction Road Pennington in the early 1980s. It was housed in the old migrant hostel and was sponsored by Smiths of Port Adelaide. They originally had indoor lawn bowls greens in the building but they ripped them out to install indoor cricket nets. A bloke by the name of Johnson bought it across from the West.

I remember umpiring a celebrity game there once and the late David Hookes played. Hooksey was beaten ends up and bowled by a part timer and David was not too happy about it. It put me in mind of a story my father told about Don Bradman. The Don was fresh from a tour of England and fronted for Kensington against Port Adelaide at Alberton. The locals flocked to see the great man bat but he was dismissed in the first over by a quick from Cheltenham. Just as they flocked to see the Don so they flocked to see Hooksey and both cases the crowds left disappointed.

Indoor Cricket streaked across the Adelaide cricketing scene like a meteor then burnt itself out. I am not sure if there are any centres still operating in Adelaide.

If we go back even further in time I can remember going to watch my father play electric light cricket in the Adelaide Parklands at the courts in Peacock Rd. That would have been in the late 1950s to early 1960s. Wow, I must be old.
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Roughly about 3-4 centres left. Quite a few have closed in the last 10-15 years. Such a great game.
 
EskimoPAFC said:
Windies/NZ today might just be the most important and interesting group stage game in the tournament.
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Looked all NZ at first, but WI score 30 odd for the 10th wicket and scraped together 149/9. Last time I checked the score NZ were 2/39, but kept losing wickets and only got to 136/9. In probably the wakest group, NZ are bottom without a point after two games.
 
Grave Danger said:
Looked all NZ at first, but WI score 30 odd for the 10th wicket and scraped together 149/9. Last time I checked the score NZ were 2/39, but kept losing wickets and only got to 136/9. In probably the wakest group, NZ are bottom without a point after two games.
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Not sure Id call them the weakest group, I actually think it was the toughest group to qualify from, because while there isnt a top side in there, there are three very solid teams.

Most groups only have 1 or 2.

But yeah NZ almost certainly gone now.
 
EskimoPAFC said:
Not sure Id call them the weakest group, I actually think it was the toughest group to qualify from, because while there isnt a top side in there, there are three very solid teams.

Most groups only have 1 or 2.

But yeah NZ almost certainly gone now.
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Who will win a World Cup first - New Zealand or South Africa? If they both make it to a final, it'll probably be a tie :).
 
raptalia said:
Careful royboy, I played and umpired Indoor Cricket for a couple of years. The game originated in WA and the first indoor centre in Adelaide opened on Grand Junction Road Pennington in the early 1980s. It was housed in the old migrant hostel and was sponsored by Smiths of Port Adelaide. They originally had indoor lawn bowls greens in the building but they ripped them out to install indoor cricket nets. A bloke by the name of Johnson bought it across from the West.

I remember umpiring a celebrity game there once and the late David Hookes played. Hooksey was beaten ends up and bowled by a part timer and David was not too happy about it. It put me in mind of a story my father told about Don Bradman. The Don was fresh from a tour of England and fronted for Kensington against Port Adelaide at Alberton. The locals flocked to see the great man bat but he was dismissed in the first over by a quick from Cheltenham. Just as they flocked to see the Don so they flocked to see Hooksey and both cases the crowds left disappointed.

Indoor Cricket streaked across the Adelaide cricketing scene like a meteor then burnt itself out. I am not sure if there are any centres still operating in Adelaide.

If we go back even further in time I can remember going to watch my father play electric light cricket in the Adelaide Parklands at the courts in Peacock Rd. That would have been in the late 1950s to early 1960s. Wow, I must be old.
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I too spent my times umpiring the game - it is where the basis of my comments stemmed from. As the comp dwindled it became infiltrated by a hard core of desperadoes who carried on like something out of dodgeball with send offs and all sorts of bullshit.

Occasionally you would come across them in the outdoor form and sadly for many their “form” did not translate
 

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western royboy said:
I too spent my times umpiring the game - it is where the basis of my comments stemmed from. As the comp dwindled it became infiltrated by a hard core of desperadoes who carried on like something out of dodgeball with send offs and all sorts of bullshit.

Occasionally you would come across them in the outdoor form and sadly for many their “form” did not translate
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Yes, I know the feeling, in the comp I was associated with we had a few grade Cricketers who were playing for sheep stations.
 
raptalia said:
Yes, I know the feeling, in the comp I was associated with we had a few grade Cricketers who were playing for sheep stations.
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I played 1 season of indoor cricket in the mid 1980's at the complex that used to be at the north end of Morphett road about 75 metres from what has been a Woolworth's petrol outlet for the last 25 years or so.
Most of us had been reasonable high school cricketers and still played the occasional social game, but there were a couple of blokes who played in a div 3 or 4 hard wicket comp every season and took the indoor stuff ridiculously seriously.

We were placed in the lowest division and won the comp in the first year due to most of the other teams being absolutely pathetic, particularly the bowling where anyone who could hold a bat could count to ten waiting for a long hop to arrive before hitting the ball anywhere they wanted.

I pulled out after only one season, but I could see the signs the trophy hunters were in it for all the wrong reasons, including name changes and other shonky ways of playing against other teams that were clearly a couple of divisions below their level.
 
USA go thru to Super 8's after game against Ireland in Florida abandoned due to rain. USA have 2 wins and a no result from their 5 games. They have also qualified for 2026 T20 WC in Sri Lanka and India.

From Cricinfo commentary thread.

Match centre
Comms: Danyal Rasool
Right, that's it from us, folks. It's a shame we couldn't bring you any cricket today. But that means this group is set. India and the USA officially go through. That means the USA also qualify for the 2026 T20 World Cup. Congratulations to them, and better luck to the rest. See all of you again tomorrow, hopefully!

Royston d's: "Well happy for USA they did well and Pakistan have to blame themselves for where they are "

The game has been called off. That's it, folks. Ireland and Pakistan have officially been eliminated. The US join India in the Super 8s.
 
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Grave Danger said:
Is the 'Super 8s' really just quarter finals, or is it another round robin of two groups of four (or one group of 8!!)?
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Its another round robin.

2 groups of 4 and 6 games in each group.
 
Earlier Saturday arvo, Nepal almost pulled off a stunning upset win over South Africa.

SAF made 7/115 off its 20 overs in Kingston Jamaica. Nepal started the last over with 6/108.

They went dot, dot, 4, 2, dot and wicket and lost by 1 run. Edit if you watch the 5 minute video in my next post, you see that they should have tied the match and gone to a super over but a little bit of slack running by the striker not going flat out, and just run out at the bowlers end. From Cricinfo commentary


Baartman to Gulsan Jha, OUT
Is that a run out?! Quinton de Kock is all smiles! What a dramatic end this is. Jha can't get bat on the short ball but the batters take off for the single. QDK throws it and it deflects to Klaasen off Jha. Klaasen throws the stumps down at the non-striker's end and it's heartbreak for Nepal! Jha seemed to slow down just a tad in the end I think. He is on his haunches, hand on head. But it's celebrations for South Africa, who have again pulled out a win out of nowhere!

SAF has struggled a bit to beat Sri Lanka on a poor pitch, the first game played in New York, took 16.2 overs to make 78 runs, then took 18.5 overs to get to 104 to beat Netherlands in New York, the pitch had improved a bit by this the 4th game there, only beat Bangladesh by 4 runs, but there was a bit of controversy in that margin, see video below, and now the Nepal game. Can't see them doing anything against the big boys in the Super 8s or semis.

Nepal is interesting, they have become cricket mad over the last 30 years, a bit like Afghanistan, but its driven more by TV and immigration, rather than refugees in camps just over Paki border driving the growth of the game in Afghanistan.

Plus ICC started investing money in emerging nations in the early '00's when they moved headquarters from London to Dubai in 2005, tax exemption reasons had a lot to do with it and $$$ from UAE government, as the ICC started earning big $$$ from Indian broadcasters for selling ICC events especially ODI WC (around $500m USD per edition) and T20 WC.

And since 2017 Nepal supplies 3rd highest group of foreign students each year in Oz. That's from high school thru VET to universities. In 2024 about 55,000 Nepalese students were enrolled in Oz, making them the 3rd largest cohort behind Chinese 150,00 students and Indian 115,000. This represents about 8% of total foreign students in Oz. In 2017 it was 28,000 and 2015 and 2016 it was about 15,000 students.

75% end up going to NSW, with UTS having the highest university enrolment, and those kids would be getting cricket and sporting experience here and going back home with improved understanding of the game and how to run the clubs back home.


The Bangladesh v South Africa game, 4 leg byes that were not 4 leg byes to Bangladesh due to a technicality in the way the Decision Review System works and when the ball is considered dead, even though an umpires decision is reversed. SAF won by 4 runs. This is a smaller part of Jarrod Kimber's 10 minute video on his youtube channel explaining how the DRS affected the 4 leg byes.


 
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This hit by Nepalese player Sompal Kami was measured at 105m






5 minute highlights video. Look at last ball and how close Nepal were to taking this to s Super Over.







Dale Steyn one again shows how humble a bloke he is.

 
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EskimoPAFC said:
Scotland on track for 180 here. Great challenge.
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Played the B grade bowling attack but the A grade batting line up. Might be a tight game
 

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