Cricket Thread: Indian Summer

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Yes, they want the best playing the best more often.
They do, my main concern with it is that it cheapens the series a little bit.

That said, could you imagine if one of the big teams did fall into Tier 2 and we dont see them. Despite being amongst the big boys currently, nobody watches Test cricket in South Africa and Sri Lanka.

Not sure how this tiered system helps that.
 
They do, my main concern with it is that it cheapens the series a little bit.

That said, could you imagine if one of the big teams did fall into Tier 2 and we dont see them. Despite being amongst the big boys currently, nobody watches Test cricket in South Africa and Sri Lanka.

Not sure how this tiered system helps that.

Its 100% designed to have Australia, England, India and South Africa play each other more often and maximise the rilvaries. It will cheapen it because do we need to have Australia play 10 tests against India every 2 years and 10 ashes tests etc. Thats what it will be.

Its ill conceived and it will likely kill test cricket.

Whats killing test cricket is series fatigue. Yes Australia, India and England all have fantastic test series but thats it. Its a left over tradition from the time countries had to travel by boat or long winded plane travel. So tours were made to make the travel time worth it. Modern travel kind of makes this thinking redundant. This is probably an area of the game where perhaps the ICC explores reformating test cricket away from a 2/3 test series.
 

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How about an international test match each year with only 2 players representing the leading 11 test countries. Captaincy and selection would fall to the two captains of the ICC test championship final.
All players paid equally.

Global audience and provides lower ranked countries to rub shoulders with the stronger test players.

Alternatively, the test championship winners get the opportunity to host a match against "the rest of the world".
 
How about an international test match each year with only 2 players representing the leading 11 test countries. Captaincy and selection would fall to the two captains of the ICC test championship final.
All players paid equally.


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How about an international test match each year with only 2 players representing the leading 11 test countries. Captaincy and selection would fall to the two captains of the ICC test championship final.
All players paid equally.

Global audience and provides lower ranked countries to rub shoulders with the stronger test players.

Alternatively, the test championship winners get the opportunity to host a match against "the rest of the world".
Feels like All Star weekend. Those games tend to not mean anything.
 
Yeah, I agree with a commentator I heard this morning, it's just acknowledging what is already happening

You would have hoped CA would have learnt that you can kill the golden goose, like they did with the BBL.

We just need to make sure they invest in the smaller countries, which they won't.
Over a 2 year period...

Play against 5 teams in your tier (at least 3 test series) at least once.

Play against 1 team in the other tier (but these points don't count towards ICC championship).

Top 2 of tier 1 play off for championship.

Bottom of tier 1 play top of tier 2 for relegation.
 
Hopefully true McSweeney is back in the squad.

Reckon I would take... assuming Hazelwood doesn't come up & Cummins is unavailable.

1 Konstas
2 Head
3 Labuschagne
4 Smith
5 McSweeney
6 Webster
7 Carey
8 Starc
9 Kuhnemann
10 Lyon
11 Boland

12 Khawaja
13 Inglis
14 Murphy
15 Richardson
 
Hopefully true McSweeney is back in the squad.

Reckon I would take... assuming Hazelwood doesn't come up & Cummins is unavailable.

1 Konstas
2 Head
3 Labuschagne
4 Smith
5 McSweeney
6 Webster
7 Carey
8 Starc
9 Kuhnemann
10 Lyon
11 Boland

12 Khawaja
13 Inglis
14 Murphy
15 Richardson
Inglis is injured - not sure if he'll be available for the tour. Looks like they're taking Handscomb instead.
 

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Apparently he MIGHT go for the 2nd Test. Can't see a point to that mind you
Sounded very unlikely & given already qualified for championship, best to rest him.
 

Happy to See McSweeney back

Smith Captain as we expected ?
Given they’ve been told they need to start regenerating you can’t be that upset with the squad they’ve chosen the only real contradictory actions is they’ve not selected Maxwell & Handscomb as they’re looking to the future yet have found a way to take Sean Abbott a long for the trip who’s an absolute dud at International level & averages near 40 with the ball in ODI’s & over 30 at first-class level & who’s 128-132 km/h dibbley-drobblers are totally unsuited to conditions. (Apparently he’s been taken as a specialist fielder 😂🙄)

Also selecting Smith to captain is totally short sighted given the doubts surrounding his future in 12 months time, Head obviously has told them he doesn’t want the job but what’s to say next year sometime if Cummins needs to miss another Test what are they gong to do then?
 
Tim Paine :sick:


WHY SAM’S GOT TO COP THE DROP

TIM PAINE - FORMER TEST CAPTAIN

There’s no greater fan of Sam Konstas than me but I’m not sure where hefits into Australia’s side for the first Test in Sri Lanka. I’m a big believer in Travis Head opening the batting in Asian conditions, just as he did successfully in India two years ago.I also still feel Usman Khawaja is better placed than Konstas to open on slow, low-turning wickets, the type we are likely to be confronted with in Galle. More to the point, I wouldn’t be surprised if the same pitch was used for both Tests given they are at the same venue and the second starts four days after the first. A similar situation played out in Pakistan last year when the hosts employed the same wicket – one that had been worn by a full Test – for the second of two Tests in Multan against England. Predictably, it was a spinner’s paradise as Noman Ali and Sajid Khan wreaked havoc. Konstas has ascended so quickly that such conditions will be unfamiliar to him, albeit Australia has a training camp in the UAE to acclimatize for this tour. I would still pick him, at the very least to expose him to these sorts of decks, even if only in the nets.It is such a short series that there will be plenty of time for him to head back to Australia and play in the Sheffield Shield. While Marnus Labuschagne has his critics, he also made a Test hundred in Sri Lanka at his last start. Like the rest of the Aussie top order, he will be relieved to escape the clutches of Jasprit Bumrah. Labuschagne didn’t dominate but in a series in which two Tests finished on day three because of the way ball was tormenting bat, he did OK overall. Steve Smith, who will likely be back as captain, is a lock, while Peter Handscomb makes sense to me at No.5 as a subcontinent specialist. I appreciate the argument that given Australia has already qualified for the World Test Championship final, maybe it is worthwhile to prefer a youngster to a veteran such as Handscomb. I don’t subscribe to it. Every Test is important and the best XI should be picked. Australia has emphasised that the side holds every available bilateral Test trophy, so the Warne-Muralitharan Trophy should not be jeopardized at any cost. On that basis, I would pick Glenn Maxwell ahead of young gun Cooper Connolly.I don’t care that Maxwell has barely played any first-class cricket. His array of shots means he is almost a left-hander and right-hander tied into one, not to mention a very effective extra spin option and brilliant fielder, as we recently saw at the Gabba in the Big Bash. I would keep Beau Webster in the XI on the back of his stunning Sydney debut, along with Alex Carey as keeper. With Maxwell and Webster, I think only three specialist bowlers are needed. Mitchell Starc’s ball speed and reverse swing make him un droppable in those conditions given Pat Cummins will be missing. Matt Kuhnemann should play alongside Nathan Lyon, while Webster is a capable second seam option. Scott Boland is unlucky but what a luxury to leave a player like him on the bench.If conditions were slightly more seam friendly, he would probably playa ahead of Kuhnemann or Maxwell.Konstas, Todd Murphy, Josh Inglis (if fit) and one of Josh Hazlewood (also fitness pending) or Jhye Richardson would be my other squad members. Cameron Green’s possible mid-year return will make things more interesting and at this stage I would expect him to push out Webster. I still have Hazlewood ahead of Boland in the pecking order for the WTCfinal but there are so many moving parts. On that note, while Boland was magnificent in Sydney, that Test pitch was embarrassing. Batting relied more on luck than skill and, although the ICC gave it satisfactory racing, I would be placing the SCG on notice: dish up something like that again and you will be suspended from hosting international cricket.It isn’t a new phenomenon in Sydney. The Sheffield Shield pitch dished up when Tasmania played at the SCG last season was disgraceful
 
Tim Paine :sick:


WHY SAM’S GOT TO COP THE DROP

TIM PAINE - FORMER TEST CAPTAIN

There’s no greater fan of Sam Konstas than me but I’m not sure where hefits into Australia’s side for the first Test in Sri Lanka. I’m a big believer in Travis Head opening the batting in Asian conditions, just as he did successfully in India two years ago.I also still feel Usman Khawaja is better placed than Konstas to open on slow, low-turning wickets, the type we are likely to be confronted with in Galle. More to the point, I wouldn’t be surprised if the same pitch was used for both Tests given they are at the same venue and the second starts four days after the first. A similar situation played out in Pakistan last year when the hosts employed the same wicket – one that had been worn by a full Test – for the second of two Tests in Multan against England. Predictably, it was a spinner’s paradise as Noman Ali and Sajid Khan wreaked havoc. Konstas has ascended so quickly that such conditions will be unfamiliar to him, albeit Australia has a training camp in the UAE to acclimatize for this tour. I would still pick him, at the very least to expose him to these sorts of decks, even if only in the nets.It is such a short series that there will be plenty of time for him to head back to Australia and play in the Sheffield Shield. While Marnus Labuschagne has his critics, he also made a Test hundred in Sri Lanka at his last start. Like the rest of the Aussie top order, he will be relieved to escape the clutches of Jasprit Bumrah. Labuschagne didn’t dominate but in a series in which two Tests finished on day three because of the way ball was tormenting bat, he did OK overall. Steve Smith, who will likely be back as captain, is a lock, while Peter Handscomb makes sense to me at No.5 as a subcontinent specialist. I appreciate the argument that given Australia has already qualified for the World Test Championship final, maybe it is worthwhile to prefer a youngster to a veteran such as Handscomb. I don’t subscribe to it. Every Test is important and the best XI should be picked. Australia has emphasised that the side holds every available bilateral Test trophy, so the Warne-Muralitharan Trophy should not be jeopardized at any cost. On that basis, I would pick Glenn Maxwell ahead of young gun Cooper Connolly.I don’t care that Maxwell has barely played any first-class cricket. His array of shots means he is almost a left-hander and right-hander tied into one, not to mention a very effective extra spin option and brilliant fielder, as we recently saw at the Gabba in the Big Bash. I would keep Beau Webster in the XI on the back of his stunning Sydney debut, along with Alex Carey as keeper. With Maxwell and Webster, I think only three specialist bowlers are needed. Mitchell Starc’s ball speed and reverse swing make him un droppable in those conditions given Pat Cummins will be missing. Matt Kuhnemann should play alongside Nathan Lyon, while Webster is a capable second seam option. Scott Boland is unlucky but what a luxury to leave a player like him on the bench.If conditions were slightly more seam friendly, he would probably playa ahead of Kuhnemann or Maxwell.Konstas, Todd Murphy, Josh Inglis (if fit) and one of Josh Hazlewood (also fitness pending) or Jhye Richardson would be my other squad members. Cameron Green’s possible mid-year return will make things more interesting and at this stage I would expect him to push out Webster. I still have Hazlewood ahead of Boland in the pecking order for the WTCfinal but there are so many moving parts. On that note, while Boland was magnificent in Sydney, that Test pitch was embarrassing. Batting relied more on luck than skill and, although the ICC gave it satisfactory racing, I would be placing the SCG on notice: dish up something like that again and you will be suspended from hosting international cricket.It isn’t a new phenomenon in Sydney. The Sheffield Shield pitch dished up when Tasmania played at the SCG last season was disgraceful
Why? Mightn’t be able to coach at BBL level but nothing he’s says here is too outrageous, you can challenge him on is his thoughts on Maxwell but if they needed to win this series to make the WTC final Maxwell & Handscomb would’ve definitely been in the squad.

And after his last tour it’s hard to not see how Head wouldn’t be better suited to opening but it looks like they’re only going to keep Konstas in though to avoid some backlash and it could well backfire on Head in the middle order and Richardson definitely should’ve been seen as the backup option on those pitches ahead of Boland & Abbott.

Suspect the 1st Test team will look something like this now;

Konstas
Khawaja
Labuschagne
Smith
Head
Webster
Carey
Starc
Murphy
Lyon
Kuhnemann

But if Konstas & Head fail in the 1st test fully expect to see them totally backtrack and Head to be opening by the 2nd.
 
If they are playing two tests on the same pitch, I'd imagine the 1st test pitch would be a road
Surely a different pitch on the same square

Otherwise go 3 spinners, 0 quicks, a keeper and 7 batters
 

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