Daisy Thomas 'Superstars' poster?

[Wooljay]

Maybe you should tell your marketing/merchandising departments?

They clearly think he is.

Hahaha, yeah because our marketing department is the best place to gauge the best footballers in the club. You're an absolute moron if you think that their choices of player promotion has anything to do with footballing ability. Like every other person has realised in this thread, DT is an accessible figure for a specific demographic - hence his publicity.

 

[JeffDunne]

You clearly have no idea how these departments work.

Au contraire! I know exactly how they work.

However, aren't we blaming the HeraldSun and others for making him out to be something that he's not?

Looks to me like Collingwood are as guilty as anyone.

 

[B-Rock]

Most people hate players with x-factor. They can turn games in a matter of 5 - 10 minutes and Thomas is certainly one of the players at the Pies with the most x-factor. Though, there are the odd x-factor players that people do like, but it's all up to the discretion of the person giving the opinion. Mostly though, we hear from those who are critical of the player whether it be on BF, other internet forums, in conversation and obviously at the games themselves.

As other posters have pointed out he is labelled a superstar because of his marketability and the promotion by the HUN is the AFL "Superstar" series they're not going to call it anything else. They have included Dale Thomas to sell papers, because a poster of Pendles, Didak, Cloke, Jolly etc would sell nowhere near as many copies.

Having said that, Thomas isn't in my top 10 favourite players at Collingwood, but I respect the way he plays his footy. He is hard at it, never shying away from a contest, runs hard, is extremely creative and we are a better team when he is playing.

Now to further illustrate my point...here is a list of players with x-factor from each team and I think you'll find most people are critical of them. Tell me if I've missed some.

Adelaide: McLeod (superstar player but I still can't stand him)

Brisbane: possibly Justin Sherman

Carlton: Eddie Betts, Chris Yarran

Collingwood: Dale Thomas, Alan Didak, Leon Davis

Essendon: Kyle Reimers, Alwyn Davey

Fremantle: perhaps Hayden Ballantyne? (as an oldie...Jeff Farmer)

Geelong: Steve Johnson, Matthew Stokes

Hawthorn: Cyril Rioli, (until last year Stuart Dew)

Fremantle: possibly Hayden Ballantyne

Melbourne: Austin Woneamirri, Liam Jurrah, Aaron Davey

North: Daniel Wells

Port Adelaide: Daniel Motlop, Danyle Pearce

Richmond: can't think of anyone at the moment

St. Kilda: Stephen Milne

Sydney: not really anyone until Lewis Jetta

West Coast: Nic Nat

Bulldogs: Josh Hill

Fair enough, but none of them are pushed down our throat like Thomas is.

The ones who come close: Nic Nat, Rioli actually have lived up to the hype thus far.

Do you see a Daniel Wells centre fold in the paper?

Are any players off that list on the footy show?

No.

But Dale Thomas is. That's what infuriates everybody.

 

[wicksy]

Au contraire! I know exactly how they work.

However, aren't we blaming the HeraldSun and others for making him out to be something that he's not?

Looks to me like Collingwood are as guilty as anyone.

Yep, that's exactly what you're doing..... We couldn't give a shit!
We know what he is and we know what he's not. The same way we know that Ross Lyon is a shit Kent!

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

In todays Herald Sun....

Surely he'd be about the 12th ranked player at Collingwood...at absolute best.

When will the media realise this bloke is the most comical "superstar" of all time? Also Thomas and his management need to have a look at themselves for allowing this to go ahead,surely they must be embarrassed?

Posters are for the kiddies. Popular players that have their photos in posters arent necessarily the best. Just ask Anna Kournikova. A marketing dream and she never won a tournament in her life.

I cant believe the things some people whinge about....

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

With Thomas, I'm starting to think it was the marketing dept rather than the football department that were responsible for the decision to draft him.

Of course you are.

 

[JeffDunne]

Posters are for the kiddies..

http://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=Display_Product&ProductID=6262&OrgID=1714

Price: $299.95

Kiddies?

 

[PieBeast]

Fair enough, but none of them are pushed down our throat like Thomas is.

The ones who come close: Nic Nat, Rioli actually have lived up to the hype thus far.

Do you see a Daniel Wells centre fold in the paper?

Are any players off that list on the footy show?

No.

But Dale Thomas is. That's what infuriates everybody.

Take it up with AFL and the HUN if it infuriates you that much.

 

[Nathan Q Brown]

This thread is hilarious. bunch of clowns blaming someone for being popular.
re Thomas's ability. I agree he's not as good as many of our other players - but I guarantee he's at least twice as good as some in this thread rate him and he we stroll into most of their teams. whatever - we're happy enough to have him in B&W

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

http://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=Display_Product&ProductID=6262&OrgID=1714

Price: $299.95

Kiddies?

Rich kiddies some of them. And not so young some of them either. And not all male either. You need to move on from the typecast impoverished unemployed Collingwood supporter that you think they all are. Personally I think all sporting posters are as tacky as the poolrooms they end up in and I wouldnt hand over $20 for one, but each to their own.

You need to ease off the stalking though, all your trawling through Collingwood websites is a bit getting creepy.

 

[Gavin Excell]

This thread is hilarious. bunch of clowns blaming someone for being popular.
re Thomas's ability. I agree he's not as good as many of our other players - but I guarantee he's at least twice as good as some in this thread rate him and he we stroll into most of their teams. whatever - we're happy enough to have him in B&W

Agree not his fault he is marketed like he is.

Interesting thing is there will come a point where he may not be in Pies best 22. Reckon he'd only being hanging in there in that respect. Collingwood get slammed for lack of stars but no denying there depth is impressive. Would not surprise me that Thomas doesn't feature regulalry in the side this year.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Collingwoods performance in that draft just shows how inexact a science drafting is.

On the one hand they took Pendles at 5. This was seen as too high, but the Pies had the balls to pull the trigger and boy did it pay off.

On the other hand, that very same group of people took Dale Thomas at 2.

 

[Blues_Man]

Just ask Anna Kournikova. A marketing dream and she never won a tournament in her life.

Actually i see the similarities..although Anna would put her body on the line a little bit more than Daisy .

 

[HeavyPop]

Ahh. another Dale Thomas thread where someone calls him overrated, despite nobody on here rating him.

 

[Redlight]

Nope - it was all Thomas early doors (because we took Murph at 1 and you took Daisy at 2), and it was full-on. Funny.

The Thomas vs Murphy argument has always been pushed by Carlton supporters because it suits them.

If you want to compare players from that draft then it has to be Pendelbury vs Murphy given that they both play a similar role.

But you Carlton supporters don't like that argument do you? After all Pendles was taken at pick 5 and yet is, at least so far, a long way ahead of Murphy.

As far as Thomas goes it's fascinating just how bitter and jealous many opposition supporters are of the public interest the Pies generate. Daisy is still a developing player yet to stamp himself on the game, and yet, he's far more popular, visible and marketable than better footballers from opposition clubs.

Damn, what a shame for the rest of you.

 

[Lockyer24]

He's a popular player to our female and young fans, but he is not a superstar or probably in our best 10 players right now.

He is a matchwinning talent though and 2009 was a year of working on the basics and defensive side of his game, this meant less highlights however this will round him out to be a better player going forward.

I'm more than happy to have a player of his class as a 10-15 player in our 22. He can rip games open in 5 minutes. Shows how deep we are.

 

[The Fireman]

We can all have a bit of a laugh at Daisy's expense but let's not forget it's not all his fault , the media and let's not forget Collingwood supporters themselves are mostly to blame for the flak this poor bloke is receiving.
Magpie supporters are renowned for their over rating of anything Collingwood and the fact that Daisy is flashy and obviously a big fan of himself would lure even the most subjective Carringbush stalwart into a state of synthetic infatuation.
So maybe it's about time we cut Daisy some slack.

 

[favourites]

Couldn't agree more with this. There is absolutely no doubt Thomas goes along for the ride and milks himself for all he's worth. Odds are, his head is stuck so far up his own arse he has no clue what's going on. If he concentrated more on his game/physique, he could probably meet some of the hype.

So at 9:30 on a Thursday night he should be....

Seriously some people need to get a life. Find something of merit to complain about.

He's actaully a pretty decent bloke, always willing to have a chat unlike some footballers. But keep posting like you actually have an idea on the topic.

 

[Gavin Excell]

I keenly await a follow up equivalent "superstar" posters featuring Jake King. They'd be on a par - playing a "role" for their club

 

[hugeblueman]

Not sure what made me laugh more, this or Malthouse saying the team is better than the 2002 Collingwood team.


With Thomas, I'm starting to think it was the marketing dept rather than the football department that were responsible for the decision to draft him.

Safe to say Stkilda's marketing department wasnt in charge of your recruiting and trading the last six months.

 

[hugeblueman]

We can all have a bit of a laugh at Daisy's expense but let's not forget it's not all his fault , the media and let's not forget Collingwood supporters themselves are mostly to blame for the flak this poor bloke is receiving.
Magpie supporters are renowned for their over rating of anything Collingwood and the fact that Daisy is flashy and obviously a big fan of himself would lure even the most subjective Carringbush stalwart into a state of synthetic infatuation.
So maybe it's about time we cut Daisy some slack.

Agreed, similar to the way Kosi has been lauded all these years.

 

[JeffDunne]

Safe to say Stkilda's marketing department wasnt in charge of your recruiting and trading the last six months.

Was that supposed to be a sledge?

I do love though how you so-called 'traditional rivals' leap to one-another's defence.

It tells me so much.

 

[Nathan Q Brown]

Agreed, similar to the way Kosi has been lauded all these years.

true at least Thomas looks interested

 

[FuManchu]

Actually i see the similarities..although Anna would put her body on the line a little bit more than Daisy .

and yet far more than Craig 'what is a pack?' Bradley

 

[Jade]

Was that supposed to be a sledge?

I do love though how you so-called 'traditional rivals' leap to one-another's defence.

It tells me so much.

I'm against whatever you just said....... just because......