News Dan Houston traded to Collingwood

[Ford Fairlane]

Houston goes where we decide. If he just wants to get back to Melbourne, North is as Melbourne-based as Carlton. And will pay us and him more.

 

[philthy05]

lol it should be pick 11 and next years first.

We have no idea whether they’re talking about pick 11 being off the table as part of a package like that, or they’re simply talking about pick 11 and change ie 2nd rounder.

As I’ve said before

Players recently ooc or with a year to run have cost 2 firsts ie Taranto , jhf.

Players this year (some with clearly lower trade value ) are being talked up as 2 1sts or a 1st and second

Ie rioli , smith , Bolton

We’ve had to pay a 1st and 2nd rounder for Dixon and Ryder when they were walking (or being marched) out of their clubs. They were near all-Aus when they departed.

We have to say to teams, look, the price has been set, not as an arbitrary amount we’re making up for us to feel we’ve won , but by the afl. It’s what is being paid, it’s what we’ve been asked to pay.

 

[PowerBaz]

Houston goes where we decide. If he just wants to get back to Melbourne, North is as Melbourne-based as Carlton. And will pay us and him more.

Closer to the city too! He can also head to the VIC markets and buy a leather jacket and a jam Doughnut.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

"Port Adelaide are furious with Carlton and don't even want to deal with them until they are willing to offer up Pick 11. They are talking via Houston's manager, they aren't talking directly to each other." -
@Sammy__Edmund

So weak and petulant.

Why would we be annoyed if we aren't going to actually accept it. Just say no and move on.

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[Butters and Pepper]

Furious - well hopefully it's a ploy, for Dan to see Carlton as being too difficult to deal with, so he can mentally prepare himself to be at North.

 

[raptalia]

As if he's going to North, it'll be Carlton.

It will be where we get the best deal.

 

[Brian McGee]

It’s quite simple. Say we won’t accept it from the start and if you want him either make it work or move on.

 

[JimmyBC]

It will be where we get the best deal.

Player has to agree to the trade I'm not sure how often people need to be told this, it's up to North to talk him around or it's not happening.

 

[davesnothere]

I just don't think we can deal with Carlton.

11 is pick 14 and that certainly doesn't work.

I'm certain we can would something out with North for 2 if we can get 12 from Gold Coast.

Carlton we just don't talk to unless they come knocking on the door with 2 firsts. Dan can stay.

 

[Rash]

In talks between the clubs fed through Houston’s management, Carlton has stated it intends to keep its pick 11 for this year’s draft while trading a future first round selection to a third club.



The Blues then want to send that third club’s first rounder to the Power, with uncontracted goal-sneak Matt Owies also raised in Houston trade discussions.

But Port powerbrokers say that is delusional when it comes to a 27-year-old two-time All-Australian who is contracted for three more years.

It’s understood Melbourne was happy to trade to first round picks to secure Houston before the Demons were engulfed in their latest crisis.

Yet the interest in Houston remains strong among rival clubs. Sources said North Melbourne was set to launch a major bid to bring Houston to Arden Street, with Alastair Clarkson playing a typically hands-on role.

Ultimately, Port Adelaide is highly unlikely to sanction Houston’s release for anything other than a strong return given it doesn’t own a first-round pick in one of the best drafts in years.

 

[Black 18]

"Owies" lol

Yeah, that gets it across the line.

If Carlton thinks Owies has any value at all then put him on the open market and then offer us what pick you get. Somehow, I don't think it would be enticing at all.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Player has to agree to the trade I'm not sure how often people need to be told this, it's up to North to talk him around or it's not happening.

Houston has 3 years left on his contract. If he doesn't agree he stays in Adelaide, which is further away from Melbourne than Arden Street.

Anyway he has said he is happy to stay if a deal can't be reached.

 

[Donuts_]

Owies would be a good pick up but is out of contract and Carlton have no room for him on the list. No trade value.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

It’s good that port have said Carlton are delusional if they think 12 and Owies will get the deal done.

 

[crafty_bernardo]

Furious with Carlton, what were they like when dealing with Dodoro's outrageous antics then lol

 

[Schulzenfest]

Player has to agree to the trade I'm not sure how often people need to be told this, it's up to North to talk him around or it's not happening.

Correct. However his contract status and his publicly stated willingness to stay at Port if no gets deal done means there's a third option in play here which isn't always at play, which is we don't trade him at all. Carlton can't just say 'here's a future first, take it or leave it'. And if Houston really wants to get back to Melbourne, he might decide he'd rather go to his second choice Melbourne club than stay in SA.

 

[Chrizzt]

Correct. However his contract status and his publicly stated willingness to stay at Port if no gets deal done means there's a third option in play here which isn't always at play, which is we don't trade him at all. Carlton can't just say 'here's a future first, take it or leave it'. And if Houston really wants to get back to Melbourne, he might decide he'd rather go to his second choice Melbourne club than stay in SA.

Without any inside knowledge on this one, it seems pretty certain that's where we are at.

Houston's personal preference is Carlton, but knows we won't trade him unless we are appropriately compensated. So he's keeping North as the backup option as his strong desire is to return to Vic this year.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

The fact that Sam Edmund said at the end that port aren’t that concerned because he just wants to get home to his girlfriend (rather than a family tragedy or personal situation). Makes me feel better to. You signed the 4 year deal Dan. You were happy to stay then

 

[PAFC66]

Can't help but feel we are being set up to take pick 11 as a win. It's not, it's a huge loss.

If it's just 11 for Houston yeah massive loss.
We should be furious at Houston not Carlton if he's not allowing us to work with anyone else...
Why else would the club be furious

 

[Wargreymon90]

The fact that Sam Edmund said at the end that port aren’t that concerned because he just wants to get home to his girlfriend (rather than a family tragedy or personal situation). Makes me feel better to. You signed the 4 year deal Dan. You were happy to stay then

I think the only reason we’re entertaining a trade is to get into this draft specifically.

If we’re offered peanuts, wouldn’t surprised me if he stayed.

 

[TazD]

Manifesting

 

[PJ Power]

It has to be two solid first-round picks MINIMUM. That is clearly and fairly his value, and the fact that Melbourne already had it on the table makes it more feasible.

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was worth two first-round picks (including a top 10) at a similar age to Houston, and from memory he was out-of-contract and only a one-time AA when traded. Houston is every bit as accomplished and valuable as Burgoyne was when we traded him. Maybe moreso.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[Jojay]

Two 1sts or gtfo

 

[Marmozet]

Victorians not knowing how good Dan Houston

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