News Dan Houston traded to Collingwood

[JimmyBC]

We got unders but ask yourself if you'd pay 2 first rounders for a half back flanker.. I reckon this board would melt if we did.

 

[johnnysix]

The reality is, picks have different value draft to draft and club to club. Some of the clubs in Victoria with draft or player capital to do a deal valued the draft highly and clearly so do we. Can't compare the deals Richmond got. Can't compare other years. Also, you keep Houston, you do run the risk of getting even less value next season as he's another year older, another year of unknown performance, a lower quality draft and other clubs perhaps being unwilling to trade anything but futures with Tasmania coming in the year after. It's all about context.

 

[Del165198]

As much as people don't wanna face it HBF's are not the most coveted players even if he is the best one in the comp, you couldn't even get Vossy to put enough pressure on for Carlton to make a serious play & he has history with Dan.

They've already got Saad who plays pretty much the same role, with a bit more run but worse kicking.

 

[Us against the rest]

As far as I now know, apart from Melbourne, no other club had 2 first round draft picks to offer us for Dan. The ones interested in him anyway. Seems all clubs, including us wanted to be in this draft & holding on to picks. We could have held him to his contract, but na. He’s now 28 with 30 coming around fast . He’d wanna keep himself in really good nick to keep going. Apart from a good kick, he really wasn’t anything we can’t replace. Farrell, Burton & even Sinn are good kicks so there’s that. We’ve got a pretty good hand now in this years draft. Time to move on.


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It does make you wonder if Houston knew from round 1 in the season that he wanted out, so yeah hence the good season.

If he had stayed he might have fell away on field and become Mr average, yes a good kick but his position is not a difficult position to cover and who knows, if we had held him to his contract it may have back fired with his attitude to to his on field performance.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

There is a world where Farrell takes over Dan's role and there is little to no transition problems at all.

 

[Duck Farmer]

He's oversharing because he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

[Duck Farmer]

… Langer Three D¡cks.

Explains why the info is as reliable as a Port player trying to keep their feet when changing direction on a 99% dry deck.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Port saw this year's draft as of immense talent and significant depth. Up to 35 players who would be sure fire first rounders in your run of the mill annual draft.

If true everyone involved in the Esava trade should be sacked immediately. Makes your blood boil to think that if they thought this they gave our best chance away for a depth Cat.

 

[JimmyBC]

The third. We are on record saying that Port dont want to bottom out, and take years to rebuild. So the strategy is to follow the Geebung method of plug & play. Get over it! As for Kenny ... yeah we know his limitations. The sooner gone the better.

This 're-tooling on the run' crap could look mighty drab in a few years time, a middling to above average mediocre finals team while Richmond may thrive after scooping up 5 thousand top 20 draft picks before the Tasmania issue.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Stupid post really. The first paragraph is emotive claptrap. We might be fed up with the people mentioned, but c'mon, every point is just wrong!

The second ... Hello! Does anyone really know we might have a super draft in 18months time? Use a bit of common sense!

The third. We are on record saying that Port dont want to bottom out, and take years to rebuild. So the strategy is to follow the Geebung method of plug & play. Get over it! As for Kenny ... yeah we know his limitations. The sooner gone the better.

I mean... obviously yes.

Keep in mind we are trading out of next years draft because we think its weak... the exact same period of time away from it as we were when we traded out this years first.

 

[crafty_bernardo]

He's oversharing because he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

May be not the smartest but footy wise he is and realised his career will go nowhere with Stinkley.

 

[Schulzenfest]

There is a world where Farrell takes over Dan's role and there is little to no transition problems at all.

Seriously underestimating Houston here.

Half back may be the easiest spot on the field to play passable football, but that doesn't mean it's easy to step up and be arguably the best half back in the league like Houston was. Farrell isn't fit to lace his boots.

 

[JimmyBC]

I actually have more interest in Burgoyne's continued development & hopefully Lachie Jones stepping up into the consistent performer he should be than what Farrell offers.

 

[Scodges]

This feels like it's getting towards Janus territory. Using Occam's razor, it seems far more likely that the club is just a bunch of pissweak cucks, and we took over and copped it because CD is trying to get to Collingwood anyway.

If the draft is amazing, why did we trade out our first last year to get duds like soldo and ratagolea?

Our strategy has constantly been to try and fill missing pieces of Kenny's puzzle, ignoring that Kenny doesn't have the mental capabilities for a game for tic tac toe, let alone completing a jigsaw.

It’s hard to gauge 1 year in advance how good the draft will be.


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[Willsy10]

Maybe this whole corridor based footy that Houston was a key driver of needs adjusting. It clearly doesn’t work in finals, the hawks final we actually seemed to use the wings more and that helped. Using the corridor crucified us against Sydney.


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[Scodges]

If true everyone involved in the Esava trade should be sacked immediately. Makes your blood boil to think that if they thought this they gave our best chance away for a depth Cat.

Our first round pick we gave away was around [emoji637][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]]-[emoji638][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]]] anyway if I’m correct. That would have gone to Luko.


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[Del165198]

Stupid post really. The first paragraph is emotive claptrap. We might be fed up with the people mentioned, but c'mon, every point is just wrong!

The second ... Hello! Does anyone really know we might have a super draft in 18months time? Use a bit of common sense!

The third. We are on record saying that Port dont want to bottom out, and take years to rebuild. So the strategy is to follow the Geebung method of plug & play. Get over it! As for Kenny ... yeah we know his limitations. The sooner gone the better.

Bro literally in the same post it talks about making decisions on next year's draft now. How's that any different to making decisions on this years draft last year?

 

[pastmyprimus]

He’s a loss but that’s tempered by Logan Evans and Sinn. Logan was a real surprise packet. Looks like an accomplished afl footballer with more improvement to come. Sinn, late in the season, started to live up to Port’s high expectations when we drafted him

 

[rumoursofwinter]

The strange thing is that we have no list spots to make use of a strong draft this year, but next year when we have a glut of list spots we have no picks in a weak draft.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Seriously underestimating Houston here.

Half back may be the easiest spot on the field to play passable football, but that doesn't mean it's easy to step up and be arguably the best half back in the league like Houston was. Farrell isn't fit to lace his boots.

There is a world also where we struggle down back too.

I just thought apart from the two final loses, the backline looked very good since the Lions game and even when Dan was out, they played well

I also think Farrell has a great chance to step up and surprise some people and has the skill set to take over the QB role. Sure, most people will disagree and it might be a unpopular opinion but I think he can do it. In the Hawks final, Burgoyne went back and got 10 coaches votes.

I'm just saying to be open that losing Dan might not be as a big of a problem as some think.

 

[Powerade 08]

The strange thing is that we have no list spots to make use of a strong draft this year, but next year when we have a glut of list spots we have no picks in a weak draft.

If only there was a way to clear more list spots

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I'm becoming happier and happier to see the back of this guy. Hopefully whoever we choose with the draft pick we got becomes a good player for us. And who knows, whoever we play at half back next year might actually know how to defend and be willing to put his body on the line for the team.

Logan Evas is certainly putting in a great audition to fill the role.

Could genuinely be anything

 

[Peninsula Boy]

This feels like it's getting towards Janus territory. Using Occam's razor, it seems far more likely that the club is just a bunch of pissweak cucks, and we took over and copped it because CD is trying to get to Collingwood anyway.

If the draft is amazing, why did we trade out our first last year to get duds like soldo and ratagolea?

Our strategy has constantly been to try and fill missing pieces of Kenny's puzzle, ignoring that Kenny doesn't have the mental capabilities for a game for tic tac toe, let alone completing a jigsaw.

Yep, maybe they are just poor when dealing with tough negotiators during trade week.

It is well known that we advocate for players going back when they want so it is much easier for opposition teams to use that as leverage.

IIRC, it happened last year with Essendon and the Zerk deal where wanted a 2nd or something coming back and they said, we ain't got it, here's a 4th, enjoy.

It shows that when we hold all the cards and we were holding a lot of cards that the nice guy way pretty much neutralises any advantage we have and we get smashed in trades, usually by the Big Vic teams.

And I don't really know how Ratkins fits in.

 

[JimmyBC]

He’s a loss but that’s tempered by Logan Evans and Sinn. Logan was a real surprise packet. Looks like an accomplished afl footballer with more improvement to come. Sinn, late in the season, started to live up to Port’s high expectations when we drafted him

The jury will be out on Sinn until he shows some durability there were some positives with actual performance.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

The jury will be out on Sinn until he shows some durability there were some positives with actual performance.

Sinn needs to play an entire year injury free in the As

I have no doubt he has the talent, just needs to put some games together